When did Trump lose you?

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Gordo14 said:

The two worst politicians in modern American History. Bernie Sanders then Donald Trump. I will vote against populist cults every time. Nikki is my hope for president, and if not I will vote Biden with the hopes that in 4 years the Republican party can rid themselves of Donald Trump and put a real candidate up against Gavin Newsome... He's much worse than Biden.
Nobody's worse than Biden, because they're all run by the same globalist/Marxist cabal behind the scenes working to destroy the country. Every D supports reduced fossil fuels, late-term abortion, forcing males into female's showers and bathrooms and usurping powers from the states to an ever-stronger federal government.

Biden already showed you what he's about. If you can vote for it again because you don't like Trump, I hope Biden's policies affect you personally as much as they can to show you the folly of your decision.
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aggielatoo said:

He lost me when I realized that he claimed to be a Christian and yet his life is nothing but a shipload of lies, fraud and disgust.
LOL, you're basically a Marxist. You were never going to vote for anyone with an R behind their name.

Because if you don't like a man who sexually assaults women you must be a Marxist?


Who did he sexually assault?
A NY jury found Trump liable for sexual assault of E. Jean Carroll. I personally think they didn't come close to proving their case and only got a liable finding because of the jurisdiction, but Trump haters can claim that and use it as a cudgel because the "get Trump" DAs and AGs they elected lived up to their campaign promises.


Yes, but this Mensa candidate is referring to women that "LET YOU grab them by the *****." That's not assault. Pretty sure most here have done so. I certainly have.
Well let's hope you never amass such a fortune as one of them remembers you doing it and remembers how traumatic it was. They can apparently accuse you of rape, then sue you for defamation when you deny it. What a world...
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The left and Trump haters are winning the narrative.

The number of Trump haters on Texags is 10x the supporters.

They are going to get what they deserve.
Do you promise?


You won't like it but will be the first to complain once it's here!
Marxism. Isn't that where we all sit around in our onesie jammies all day, sipping lattes and posting on Threads from our MacBook pros? Nobody has to work and everybody has everything they could possible want?
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Aggie Apotheosis said:

Now that I ponder it further, it was actually the culmination of many things. Sure, trashing John McCain and bragging about sexually assaulting women were despicable. But then I realized that Trump was the first president since Herbert Hoover to end his time in office with net job losses. The pathetic GDP growth during his four years was also a factor. He's as senile as Biden and amoral besides.

RIP John McCain!


You can tell the Marxist with a beard when they refuse to consider that COVID was a pretty big deal and impacted Trump's spending, job creation and economic performance beyond his ability to control.

Some like to Monday morning QB, but in the moment, with the advice he was being given, with the demagoguing being done by the Dems, Trump handled it pretty well IMO, and better than just about any other world leader.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

Never had me. Voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020 and will do so again this year. He's an unprofessional clown and generally a scumbag of a person on top of that. I continue to be amazed that college educated adults still support him given his continuing antics but am excited to finally rid the party of Trump and hopefully trumpism too after November.
America First isn't going anyway once Trump is out of the picture.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Never had me. Voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020 and will do so again this year. He's an unprofessional clown and generally a scumbag of a person on top of that. I continue to be amazed that college educated adults still support him given his continuing antics but am excited to finally rid the party of Trump and hopefully trumpism too after November.
America First isn't going anyway once Trump is out of the picture.


Cool. Trump is not America first, he's Trump first.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Never had me. Voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020 and will do so again this year. He's an unprofessional clown and generally a scumbag of a person on top of that. I continue to be amazed that college educated adults still support him given his continuing antics but am excited to finally rid the party of Trump and hopefully trumpism too after November.
America First isn't going anyway once Trump is out of the picture.


Cool. Trump is not America first, he's Trump first.


Best thing for America would be for him to "fade into Bolivian". He's a net negative for the GOP and conservatism in general.
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You seem to be blaming Trump for having a cult following. Isn't that what every politician wants? Of course, but only those with charisma, magnetism and an effective style of communication can achieve it. Don't blame Trump that Desantis has the personality of a potato.

I think it's ridiculous that people would vote on emotion rather than rational policy decisions, but here we are,



My vote is based upon "rational policy decisions", or the lack thereof, in respect to both dementia-addled geezer liberals.
Zero emotions.

And yet, you bring up the idea of "emotions" while talking about "charisma"...which is based upon.....yep...emotions. .

I do not vote for liberals.


You're still not understanding. I (me, myself) personally only vote based on policy. A candidate could have cheated on his wife, kicked a disabled person, clubbed a baby seal and saluted Hitler all on film in the past and as long as that person has the best policies for the betterment of me and my family, they will get my vote.

However, there are many people that actually do factor in their emotions when voting and they're on both sides of the aisle. Many on the left are focused on mean words and tweets, while on the right they're focused on fairness (MAGA feeling that Trump got screwed over) or morality (Never Trumpers insisting that they can only vote for Mother Theresa). Just like in advertising, this is why it's important for a candidate to have charisma and be a good communicator so that they can reach potential candidates and appeal to their emotions. In my opinion, Desantis either lacked the necessary traits to connect with people or didn't think it was important enough to do so. Intentional or not, he chose to stand on policy alone.

Now we're to the primaries where Desantis is no longer an option. Just to clarify, no matter how much you like a candidate or how much they align with your policies, if they're not on the ballot you can't vote for them. So that leaves Trump and Haley who are both currently polling ahead of Biden leaving me to choose the one who benefits me more (Trump in this case). If polls were showing that only Haley has a chance of defeating Biden, then I would make the rational decision to support her. Not because I think she has better policies than Trump but because I know she has better policies than Biden.

When the general election rolls around, Trump will most likely be the candidate. Again, I will make the ration decision to vote for him because he's the only choice and his policies are better than Biden's. Now, a conservative might think that they have other choices like abstaining or voting third-party but they would be irrational and a de facto vote for Biden. You can do all kinds of mental gymnastics to convince yourself otherwise but it just isn't so.

Since you don't vote for liberals, it's good to know that you will be pulling the lever for Trump in November.


I don't vote for liberals. I haven't yet, and not about to start. So, no, this idiotic diatribe of "if you don't vote for X, then you're voting for Y!" when I'm not voting for X or Y, at all, is exactly that....idiotic. Nobody is owed my vote.
Maybe you need to look in that mirror while you're calling someone an idiot.

I'll see if this might resonate, my loyalty to my family, their future and this country will trump my principles in this election.


Didn't call you an idiot. I said the diatribe, which you're regurgitating, is idiotic and not based upon fact. Every 4 years it's the same stupidity.
It's not idiotic Rob, it's the reality that we face at this moment in our countries history and future. My goal is to do whatever it takes to remove the leftist, Marxist from the white house and then fight for 2028 to get DeSantis or someone similar in there. I can stomach a narcissistic, bloviating, liberal leaning populist, who has many conservative leanings and did may great things when he was in office, against a tremendous headwind, because I don't allow my emotions to rule my thoughts on his idiotic personality.

Although you stand in front of the mirror, trying to convince yourself you're not, continue to allow your emotion to rule your thoughts, I guess, and screw your family and this country. We can't stand another 4 years of this and they will only be embolden even more to push their Marxist, globalist agenda.


You keep saying it's just his personality and we just can't get past it. If only it were just his personality... he's bad at the job. He is not competent at the position. No, Biden isn't either, but at least we know we re against him and we don't embrace the ****tiness.


Cool. You do you. Biden you will get. He seems like a great person and a competent leader.
We were getting Biden when MAGA rejected anyone but Trump to be the nominee...


Blaming everyone else. Just like I said. People like you who don't get their way will say that everyone else is stupid and then take their ball and go home. Pathetic.
That is what you are doing, too.

If you don't get your way and force others to vote for your guy, then they're stupid.


Wrong. You still don't get it. You are voting on old information that is no longer relevant. You wanted Desantis and if you can't have him you're going to throw your vote away in protest and scream at the clouds how stupid everyone is for not agreeing with you. I can't vote for Desantis because he's not an option. He dropped out. That would be like me saying if I can't have Trump, I'm going to throw my vote away. The difference is that Trump is still in the race. I can't help that. It's the reality of the situation. You can wish all you want that Desantis was still a candidate, but he's not. Get over it. If you think Biden is a better option than Trump, then vote for him; but stop with the comparisons to Desantis because he's no longer an alternative. Your only real choices are going to be Trump or Biden. Make a decision. If you truly are a conservative and you don't vote for Trump it's a de facto vote for Biden as it only benefits the Democrats. You can tie yourself in knots trying to twist the situation but "them's the facts."

On election day there's going to be a Republican candidate on the ballot. That's the only option that I need or want. I don't get bent out of shape over who that candidate is because I can't control that. My only two choices are to vote for them or not vote for them. It's the same as your choices. Who am I blaming? Im happy. There's going to be a Republican to vote for when I get to the voting booth. It may be Trump or it may be Haley. Whoever it is will get my vote. It's that simple.

First, holy wall of text, Batman...

Second, I wanted Not Trump, not necessarily DeSantis. So, there were no "comparisons to DeSantis".

Third, numerous people have stated they will NOT vote for Trump EVEN IF he's nominated. That Is letting you and others know the consequences of nominating Trump. MAGA ignored the consequences and are getting the result that they were told would occur.

Fourth, I don't like Biden or his policies. He's an ******* and a ****ty POTUS. I WILL NOT vote for him.

Fifth, it is not a vote for Biden to not vote for Trump. Repeating a falsehood over and over does not make it true.

Sixth, I'm pissed that MAGA ****ed me over and are going to make me abstain from voting for a POTUS this go around

Seventh, I'm glad you're happy and can vote for Trump.


A conservative who would abstain or throw away their vote on a third-party and allow the Democrats and their leftist policies to control the presidency is not really a conservative. They're an idealist. A conservative would make the tough choice instead of complaining about the position they're in.

Also, MAGA didn't put you in this position. If your preferred primary candidate was so good, why couldn't they win the nomination? Blaming someone else is just an excuse. Have some personal accountability. Look in the mirror and recognize your failings.


Maga put us in this position by voting for "revenge" or whatever over actual effective conservative policy (with an assist from the establishment doing everything they can to keep Haley in). It's 100% their fault. And now we have two 80 year olds who can barely string together a coherent sentence running for the most important position in the world.


MAGA didn't do anything. Keep blaming others. It will get you far in life. Loser mentality.


Nope, loser mentality is crying like a toddler about cheating every single time you lose.


I'm not concerned with the past. There's no crying here. Just making the right choice going forward. You're the only person wishing for Desantis and crying about him not being an option.


I'm not crying about anything. DeSantis will be back for 2028 and by that point Trump will be a distant, confusing memory and the adults will have taken the party back over.

I also don't vote for liberals, apparently you don't have a problem with that though.


Good. I hope that Desantis does run in 2028. I would be happy to vote for him.

I guess your last sentence is a dig at Trump. If you want to say he's a liberal, that's your prerogative. You can also claim that you're a cat and walk around on all fours and eat out of a bowl. It doesn't make it true.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Never had me. Voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020 and will do so again this year. He's an unprofessional clown and generally a scumbag of a person on top of that. I continue to be amazed that college educated adults still support him given his continuing antics but am excited to finally rid the party of Trump and hopefully trumpism too after November.
America First isn't going anyway once Trump is out of the picture.


Cool. Trump is not America first, he's Trump first.


Newsflash, all politicians are extremely narcissistic no matter their outward persona. Admittedly Trump wins a contest for narcissism against most politicians, but that's not the point. You judge politicians on results and Trump, given the problems, subterfuge and opposition he faced, was extremely successful.
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Never had me. Voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020 and will do so again this year. He's an unprofessional clown and generally a scumbag of a person on top of that. I continue to be amazed that college educated adults still support him given his continuing antics but am excited to finally rid the party of Trump and hopefully trumpism too after November.
America First isn't going anyway once Trump is out of the picture.


Cool. Trump is not America first, he's Trump first.
Both can be true. Trump IS America first.
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You seem to be blaming Trump for having a cult following. Isn't that what every politician wants? Of course, but only those with charisma, magnetism and an effective style of communication can achieve it. Don't blame Trump that Desantis has the personality of a potato.

I think it's ridiculous that people would vote on emotion rather than rational policy decisions, but here we are,



My vote is based upon "rational policy decisions", or the lack thereof, in respect to both dementia-addled geezer liberals.
Zero emotions.

And yet, you bring up the idea of "emotions" while talking about "charisma"...which is based upon.....yep...emotions. .

I do not vote for liberals.


You're still not understanding. I (me, myself) personally only vote based on policy. A candidate could have cheated on his wife, kicked a disabled person, clubbed a baby seal and saluted Hitler all on film in the past and as long as that person has the best policies for the betterment of me and my family, they will get my vote.

However, there are many people that actually do factor in their emotions when voting and they're on both sides of the aisle. Many on the left are focused on mean words and tweets, while on the right they're focused on fairness (MAGA feeling that Trump got screwed over) or morality (Never Trumpers insisting that they can only vote for Mother Theresa). Just like in advertising, this is why it's important for a candidate to have charisma and be a good communicator so that they can reach potential candidates and appeal to their emotions. In my opinion, Desantis either lacked the necessary traits to connect with people or didn't think it was important enough to do so. Intentional or not, he chose to stand on policy alone.

Now we're to the primaries where Desantis is no longer an option. Just to clarify, no matter how much you like a candidate or how much they align with your policies, if they're not on the ballot you can't vote for them. So that leaves Trump and Haley who are both currently polling ahead of Biden leaving me to choose the one who benefits me more (Trump in this case). If polls were showing that only Haley has a chance of defeating Biden, then I would make the rational decision to support her. Not because I think she has better policies than Trump but because I know she has better policies than Biden.

When the general election rolls around, Trump will most likely be the candidate. Again, I will make the ration decision to vote for him because he's the only choice and his policies are better than Biden's. Now, a conservative might think that they have other choices like abstaining or voting third-party but they would be irrational and a de facto vote for Biden. You can do all kinds of mental gymnastics to convince yourself otherwise but it just isn't so.

Since you don't vote for liberals, it's good to know that you will be pulling the lever for Trump in November.


I don't vote for liberals. I haven't yet, and not about to start. So, no, this idiotic diatribe of "if you don't vote for X, then you're voting for Y!" when I'm not voting for X or Y, at all, is exactly that....idiotic. Nobody is owed my vote.
Maybe you need to look in that mirror while you're calling someone an idiot.

I'll see if this might resonate, my loyalty to my family, their future and this country will trump my principles in this election.


Didn't call you an idiot. I said the diatribe, which you're regurgitating, is idiotic and not based upon fact. Every 4 years it's the same stupidity.
It's not idiotic Rob, it's the reality that we face at this moment in our countries history and future. My goal is to do whatever it takes to remove the leftist, Marxist from the white house and then fight for 2028 to get DeSantis or someone similar in there. I can stomach a narcissistic, bloviating, liberal leaning populist, who has many conservative leanings and did may great things when he was in office, against a tremendous headwind, because I don't allow my emotions to rule my thoughts on his idiotic personality.

Although you stand in front of the mirror, trying to convince yourself you're not, continue to allow your emotion to rule your thoughts, I guess, and screw your family and this country. We can't stand another 4 years of this and they will only be embolden even more to push their Marxist, globalist agenda.


You keep saying it's just his personality and we just can't get past it. If only it were just his personality... he's bad at the job. He is not competent at the position. No, Biden isn't either, but at least we know we re against him and we don't embrace the ****tiness.


Cool. You do you. Biden you will get. He seems like a great person and a competent leader.
We were getting Biden when MAGA rejected anyone but Trump to be the nominee...


Blaming everyone else. Just like I said. People like you who don't get their way will say that everyone else is stupid and then take their ball and go home. Pathetic.
That is what you are doing, too.

If you don't get your way and force others to vote for your guy, then they're stupid.


Wrong. You still don't get it. You are voting on old information that is no longer relevant. You wanted Desantis and if you can't have him you're going to throw your vote away in protest and scream at the clouds how stupid everyone is for not agreeing with you. I can't vote for Desantis because he's not an option. He dropped out. That would be like me saying if I can't have Trump, I'm going to throw my vote away. The difference is that Trump is still in the race. I can't help that. It's the reality of the situation. You can wish all you want that Desantis was still a candidate, but he's not. Get over it. If you think Biden is a better option than Trump, then vote for him; but stop with the comparisons to Desantis because he's no longer an alternative. Your only real choices are going to be Trump or Biden. Make a decision. If you truly are a conservative and you don't vote for Trump it's a de facto vote for Biden as it only benefits the Democrats. You can tie yourself in knots trying to twist the situation but "them's the facts."

On election day there's going to be a Republican candidate on the ballot. That's the only option that I need or want. I don't get bent out of shape over who that candidate is because I can't control that. My only two choices are to vote for them or not vote for them. It's the same as your choices. Who am I blaming? Im happy. There's going to be a Republican to vote for when I get to the voting booth. It may be Trump or it may be Haley. Whoever it is will get my vote. It's that simple.

First, holy wall of text, Batman...

Second, I wanted Not Trump, not necessarily DeSantis. So, there were no "comparisons to DeSantis".

Third, numerous people have stated they will NOT vote for Trump EVEN IF he's nominated. That Is letting you and others know the consequences of nominating Trump. MAGA ignored the consequences and are getting the result that they were told would occur.

Fourth, I don't like Biden or his policies. He's an ******* and a ****ty POTUS. I WILL NOT vote for him.

Fifth, it is not a vote for Biden to not vote for Trump. Repeating a falsehood over and over does not make it true.

Sixth, I'm pissed that MAGA ****ed me over and are going to make me abstain from voting for a POTUS this go around

Seventh, I'm glad you're happy and can vote for Trump.


A conservative who would abstain or throw away their vote on a third-party and allow the Democrats and their leftist policies to control the presidency is not really a conservative. They're an idealist. A conservative would make the tough choice instead of complaining about the position they're in.

Also, MAGA didn't put you in this position. If your preferred primary candidate was so good, why couldn't they win the nomination? Blaming someone else is just an excuse. Have some personal accountability. Look in the mirror and recognize your failings.


Maga put us in this position by voting for "revenge" or whatever over actual effective conservative policy (with an assist from the establishment doing everything they can to keep Haley in). It's 100% their fault. And now we have two 80 year olds who can barely string together a coherent sentence running for the most important position in the world.


MAGA didn't do anything. Keep blaming others. It will get you far in life. Loser mentality.


Nope, loser mentality is crying like a toddler about cheating every single time you lose.


I'm not concerned with the past. There's no crying here. Just making the right choice going forward. You're the only person wishing for Desantis and crying about him not being an option.


I'm not crying about anything. DeSantis will be back for 2028 and by that point Trump will be a distant, confusing memory and the adults will have taken the party back over.

I also don't vote for liberals, apparently you don't have a problem with that though.


Good. I hope that Desantis does run in 2028. I would be happy to vote for him.

I guess your last sentence is a dig at Trump. If you want to say he's a liberal, that's your prerogative. You can also claim that you're a cat and walk around on all fours and eat out of a bowl. It doesn't make it true.


Trump spent at Obama levels in only 4 years and let Fauci and co run wild during Covid while he scolded actual conservative governors for not locking down enough. He was also a democrat for basically his entire life until he realized he could trick republicans into voting for him easier than he could democrats.

That's plenty for me to call him a liberal, especially in relation to actual conservatives like DeSantis, Kemp, Reynolds, Youngkin, etc that he apparently has such a problem with (solely because they dared to not immediately anoint him), but you're free to pretend he's not if that makes you feel better.
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As a former and current DeSantis supporter can this thread die already.

Its now a Trump vs Biden/commie/woke election. No matter what we want this is where we are. Woulda, coulda, shoulda is past.

Time to pick one of only TWO REAL WORLD POSSIBILITIES, a loud mouth America first populist or a straight up leftest veggy that's wrecking this country by the day.

Whether we like it or not this is where we are? This thread was great at venting but time to put it to bed.

Pick one and settle in.
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ttu_85 said:

As a former and current DeSantis supporter can this thread die already.

Its now a Trump vs Biden/commie/woke election. No matter what we want this is where we are. Woulda, coulda, shoulda is past.

Time to pick one of only TWO REAL WORLD POSSIBILITIES, a loud mouth America first populist or a straight up leftest veggy that's wrecking this country by the day.

Whether we like it or not this is where we are? This thread was great at venting but time to put it to bed.

Pick one and settle in.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

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Never had me. Voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020 and will do so again this year. He's an unprofessional clown and generally a scumbag of a person on top of that. I continue to be amazed that college educated adults still support him given his continuing antics but am excited to finally rid the party of Trump and hopefully trumpism too after November.
America First isn't going anyway once Trump is out of the picture.


Cool. Trump is not America first, he's Trump first.
Both can be true. Trump IS America first.


"He's a very petty individual who will always put his interests ahead of the country's... but our country can't be a therapy session for a troubled man like this" - William Barr, Trump Administration Attorney General
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ttu_85 said:

As a former and current DeSantis supporter can this thread die already.

Its now a Trump vs Biden/commie/woke election. No matter what we want this is where we are. Woulda, coulda, shoulda is past.

Time to pick one of only TWO REAL WORLD POSSIBILITIES, a loud mouth America first populist or a straight up leftest veggy that's wrecking this country by the day.

Whether we like it or not this is where we are? This thread was great at venting but time to put it to bed.

Pick one and settle in.

I totally understand how you feel. Trump is a dyck. I lobbied hard against him and for DeSantis until DeSantis dropped out and endorsed Trump. Trump wont kill the nation. Biden will.

Wish we had another choice but I dont see it. Enlighten me, Any realistic ideas ?
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WHOOP!'91 said:

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WHOOP!'91 said:

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Never had me. Voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020 and will do so again this year. He's an unprofessional clown and generally a scumbag of a person on top of that. I continue to be amazed that college educated adults still support him given his continuing antics but am excited to finally rid the party of Trump and hopefully trumpism too after November.
America First isn't going anyway once Trump is out of the picture.


Cool. Trump is not America first, he's Trump first.
Both can be true. Trump IS America first.


"He's a very petty individual who will always put his interests ahead of the country's... but our country can't be a therapy session for a troubled man like this" - William Barr, Trump Administration Attorney General
Whatever. Now tell me about the policies Trump put in place and how effective they were. The economy was GREAT before COVID, the world was relatively peaceful and peace agreements were being signed in the middle-east. Russia was poor, Iran was poor.

I couldn't care less about Trump's personality or how ever Bill Barr wants to put it. I care about policies and their outcomes. Trump's policies are good, Biden's policies are bad. It should be that simple.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

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WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Never had me. Voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020 and will do so again this year. He's an unprofessional clown and generally a scumbag of a person on top of that. I continue to be amazed that college educated adults still support him given his continuing antics but am excited to finally rid the party of Trump and hopefully trumpism too after November.
America First isn't going anyway once Trump is out of the picture.


Cool. Trump is not America first, he's Trump first.
Both can be true. Trump IS America first.


"He's a very petty individual who will always put his interests ahead of the country's... but our country can't be a therapy session for a troubled man like this" - William Barr, Trump Administration Attorney General
Whatever. Now tell me about the policies Trump put in place and how effective they were. The economy was GREAT before COVID, the world was relatively peaceful and peace agreements were being signed in the middle-east. Russia was poor, Iran was poor.

I couldn't care less about Trump's personality or how ever Bill Barr wants to put it. I care about policies and their outcomes. Trump's policies are good, Biden's policies are bad. It should be that simple.
But its not that simple. What matters is the ability to IMPLEMENT your policies. Trump runs around with a flame thrower making that difficult. That said you are right about Biden-- his policies will kill our nation.
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ttu_85 said:

As a former and current DeSantis supporter can this thread die already.

Its now a Trump vs Biden/commie/woke election. No matter what we want this is where we are. Woulda, coulda, shoulda is past.

Time to pick one of only TWO REAL WORLD POSSIBILITIES, a loud mouth America first populist or a straight up leftest veggy that's wrecking this country by the day.

Whether we like it or not this is where we are? This thread was great at venting but time to put it to bed.

Pick one and settle in.
The reality is it has already been lost. Deciding which way you want to be executed, incompetence or malice is no real choice.
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Why is everyone so hell bent telling us we have to choose between 2 senile old dudes ?

Literally an old senile diaper wearing incumbent vs. an old senile diaper wearing guy who lost in 2020.

If that's our choice, why can't reasonable people choose to vote for third party, write in, or just leave it blank ? I keep hearing " that's not an option " or " you must choose" between Biden and Trump. Why ?

If I served you spinach and broccoli and you don't like either, would you say " you have to eat one" ? Of course not.

I encourage everyone , if you want Biden or if you want Trump ... vote for them. But if you are like me and others and you don't want either, vote for neither.
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Ags77 said:

Why is everyone so hell bent telling us we have to choose between 2 senile old dudes ?

Literally an old senile diaper wearing incumbent vs. an old senile diaper wearing guy who lost in 2020.

If that's our choice, why can't reasonable people choose to vote for third party, write in, or just leave it blank ? I keep hearing " that's not an option " or " you must choose" between Biden and Trump. Why ?

If I served you spinach and broccoli and you don't like either, would you say " you have to eat one" ? Of course not.

I encourage everyone if you want Biden or if you want Trump ... vote for them. But if you are like me and others and you don't want either, vote for neither.

Funny and ignorant. Take up with our current political process. In the general it will come down between two candidates UNLESS one side is split. The side that is split loses. Unless both are split and that hasn't happened in over 170 years.

Ladies and Gentleman I present you the election of 1992 that gave us Bill Clinton.

My goal is to piss off the hardcore brainless types on both sides. And yes Trumpers suck as does the I hate Trump therefor I give it to the rats-- they suck as well.

Both are mindless bots.

BTW Tech owned A&M in the big 12 era
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Ags77 said:

Why is everyone so hell bent telling us we have to choose between 2 senile old dudes ?

Literally an old senile diaper wearing incumbent vs. an old senile diaper wearing guy who lost in 2020.

If that's our choice, why can't reasonable people choose to vote for third party, write in, or just leave it blank ? I keep hearing " that's not an option " or " you must choose" between Biden and Trump. Why ?

If I served you spinach and broccoli and you don't like either, would you say " you have to eat one" ? Of course not.

I encourage everyone , if you want Biden or if you want Trump ... vote for them. But if you are like me and others and you don't want either, vote for neither.



Bingo. And to me a message needs to be sent that, if the GOP wants to win again and take out the left in the long term, that Trump or anyone like him is not the vehicle. We have seen this in every election in the last 6 years - it's a losing message.

The right answers are people that have actually won in purple states and who govern with common sense and without the absurd sideshow.
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ttu_85 said:

Ags77 said:

Why is everyone so hell bent telling us we have to choose between 2 senile old dudes ?

Literally an old senile diaper wearing incumbent vs. an old senile diaper wearing guy who lost in 2020.

If that's our choice, why can't reasonable people choose to vote for third party, write in, or just leave it blank ? I keep hearing " that's not an option " or " you must choose" between Biden and Trump. Why ?

If I served you spinach and broccoli and you don't like either, would you say " you have to eat one" ? Of course not.

I encourage everyone if you want Biden or if you want Trump ... vote for them. But if you are like me and others and you don't want either, vote for neither.

Funny and ignorant. Take up with our current political process. In the general it will come down between two candidates UNLESS one side is split. The side that is split loses. Unless both are split and that hasn't happened in over 170 years.

Ladies and Gentleman I present you the election of 1992 that gave us Bill Clinton.

My goal is to piss off the hardcore brainless types on both sides. And yes Trumpers suck as does the I hate Trump therefor I give it to the rats-- they suck as well.

Both are mindless bots.

BTW Tech owned A&M in the big 12 era


Wth ? Tech winning vs the Ags ? So I have to choose one of the two old guys in November ? I don't recall mentioning football in my post, lol. "Take up with our current political process "? Translation please ?

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Ags77 said:

ttu_85 said:

Ags77 said:

Why is everyone so hell bent telling us we have to choose between 2 senile old dudes ?

Literally an old senile diaper wearing incumbent vs. an old senile diaper wearing guy who lost in 2020.

If that's our choice, why can't reasonable people choose to vote for third party, write in, or just leave it blank ? I keep hearing " that's not an option " or " you must choose" between Biden and Trump. Why ?

If I served you spinach and broccoli and you don't like either, would you say " you have to eat one" ? Of course not.

I encourage everyone if you want Biden or if you want Trump ... vote for them. But if you are like me and others and you don't want either, vote for neither.

Funny and ignorant. Take up with our current political process. In the general it will come down between two candidates UNLESS one side is split. The side that is split loses. Unless both are split and that hasn't happened in over 170 years.

Ladies and Gentleman I present you the election of 1992 that gave us Bill Clinton.

My goal is to piss off the hardcore brainless types on both sides. And yes Trumpers suck as does the I hate Trump therefor I give it to the rats-- they suck as well.

Both are mindless bots.

BTW Tech owned A&M in the big 12 era


Wth ? Tech winning vs the Ags ? So I have to choose one of the two old guys in November ? I don't recall mentioning football in my post, lol. "Take up with our current political process "? Translation please ?


Really you need a translation for the obvious in bold? Maybe you shouldn't be on the politics board.
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Umm he hasn't lost me. This might hurt some feelings but if you supported Trump before and are either going to vote for Joe against him or not vote after the last 3 years because somehow you're emotions have gotten the best of you, you are a great example of what's wrong with this country. You're feelings don't matter near as much as you think they do. You're not voting for who you want to be best friends with or even go have a beer with which is how fart to many I come across think.
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ttu_85 said:

Ags77 said:

ttu_85 said:

Ags77 said:

Why is everyone so hell bent telling us we have to choose between 2 senile old dudes ?

Literally an old senile diaper wearing incumbent vs. an old senile diaper wearing guy who lost in 2020.

If that's our choice, why can't reasonable people choose to vote for third party, write in, or just leave it blank ? I keep hearing " that's not an option " or " you must choose" between Biden and Trump. Why ?

If I served you spinach and broccoli and you don't like either, would you say " you have to eat one" ? Of course not.

I encourage everyone if you want Biden or if you want Trump ... vote for them. But if you are like me and others and you don't want either, vote for neither.

Funny and ignorant. Take up with our current political process. In the general it will come down between two candidates UNLESS one side is split. The side that is split loses. Unless both are split and that hasn't happened in over 170 years.

Ladies and Gentleman I present you the election of 1992 that gave us Bill Clinton.

My goal is to piss off the hardcore brainless types on both sides. And yes Trumpers suck as does the I hate Trump therefor I give it to the rats-- they suck as well.

Both are mindless bots.

BTW Tech owned A&M in the big 12 era


Wth ? Tech winning vs the Ags ? So I have to choose one of the two old guys in November ? I don't recall mentioning football in my post, lol. "Take up with our current political process "? Translation please ?


Really you need a translation for the obvious in bold? Maybe you shouldn't be on the politics board.


Can you translate what tech beating the Ags means concerning the November election ?
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags77 said:

Why is everyone so hell bent telling us we have to choose between 2 senile old dudes ?

Literally an old senile diaper wearing incumbent vs. an old senile diaper wearing guy who lost in 2020.

If that's our choice, why can't reasonable people choose to vote for third party, write in, or just leave it blank ? I keep hearing " that's not an option " or " you must choose" between Biden and Trump. Why ?

If I served you spinach and broccoli and you don't like either, would you say " you have to eat one" ? Of course not.

I encourage everyone , if you want Biden or if you want Trump ... vote for them. But if you are like me and others and you don't want either, vote for neither.



Bingo. And to me a message needs to be sent that, if the GOP wants to win again and take out the left in the long term, that Trump or anyone like him is not the vehicle. We have seen this in every election in the last 6 years - it's a losing message.

The right answers are people that have actually won in purple states and who govern with common sense and without the absurd sideshow.
I agree as my posting history for the last year clearly demonstrates. Problem time is not on your side. My loathing for the democrates supersedes my dislike of Trump. Given the damage Biden has done in three years ? How much damage gets done by 2028? This is the driver for my posting today.

By 2028, there my not be a republic much less a Republican party to "Learn its losing messaging." Unless you see a way to get DeSantis or a like minded candidate winning the Republican nomination, I dont see a play.
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Ags77 said:

ttu_85 said:

Ags77 said:

ttu_85 said:

Ags77 said:

Why is everyone so hell bent telling us we have to choose between 2 senile old dudes ?

Literally an old senile diaper wearing incumbent vs. an old senile diaper wearing guy who lost in 2020.

If that's our choice, why can't reasonable people choose to vote for third party, write in, or just leave it blank ? I keep hearing " that's not an option " or " you must choose" between Biden and Trump. Why ?

If I served you spinach and broccoli and you don't like either, would you say " you have to eat one" ? Of course not.

I encourage everyone if you want Biden or if you want Trump ... vote for them. But if you are like me and others and you don't want either, vote for neither.

Funny and ignorant. Take up with our current political process. In the general it will come down between two candidates UNLESS one side is split. The side that is split loses. Unless both are split and that hasn't happened in over 170 years.

Ladies and Gentleman I present you the election of 1992 that gave us Bill Clinton.

My goal is to piss off the hardcore brainless types on both sides. And yes Trumpers suck as does the I hate Trump therefor I give it to the rats-- they suck as well.

Both are mindless bots.

BTW Tech owned A&M in the big 12 era


Wth ? Tech winning vs the Ags ? So I have to choose one of the two old guys in November ? I don't recall mentioning football in my post, lol. "Take up with our current political process "? Translation please ?


Really you need a translation for the obvious in bold? Maybe you shouldn't be on the politics board.


Can you translate what tech beating the Ags means concerning the November election ?
Oh good lord. Look at that post and the bolding. Then the emoticon. Maybe humor in regard a tense subject is indeed subjective.
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Phatbob said:

ttu_85 said:

As a former and current DeSantis supporter can this thread die already.

Its now a Trump vs Biden/commie/woke election. No matter what we want this is where we are. Woulda, coulda, shoulda is past.

Time to pick one of only TWO REAL WORLD POSSIBILITIES, a loud mouth America first populist or a straight up leftest veggy that's wrecking this country by the day.

Whether we like it or not this is where we are? This thread was great at venting but time to put it to bed.

Pick one and settle in.
The reality is it has already been lost. Deciding which way you want to be executed, incompetence or malice is no real choice.
Ok. Give me a workable alternative that keeps the dems from winning given I find them by far the greater threat.. Seriously listening !!
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jwhaby said:

A conservative who would abstain or throw away their vote on a third-party and allow the Democrats and their leftist policies to control the presidency is not really a conservative. They're an idealist. A conservative would make the tough choice instead of complaining about the position they're in.

Also, MAGA didn't put you in this position. If your preferred primary candidate was so good, why couldn't they win the nomination? Blaming someone else is just an excuse. Have some personal accountability. Look in the mirror and recognize your failings.
I don't think that a rational Conservative would see this as some form of WWE wrestling.

A vote for Trump is not a vote for Conservatism. Rather, it is a vote for getting in the face of other politicians, whether Conservative or not.
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ttu_85 said:

Phatbob said:

ttu_85 said:

As a former and current DeSantis supporter can this thread die already.

Its now a Trump vs Biden/commie/woke election. No matter what we want this is where we are. Woulda, coulda, shoulda is past.

Time to pick one of only TWO REAL WORLD POSSIBILITIES, a loud mouth America first populist or a straight up leftest veggy that's wrecking this country by the day.

Whether we like it or not this is where we are? This thread was great at venting but time to put it to bed.

Pick one and settle in.
The reality is it has already been lost. Deciding which way you want to be executed, incompetence or malice is no real choice.
Ok. Give me a workable alternative that keeps the dems from winning given I find them by far the greater threat.. Seriously listening !!
Yeah, it's a little late at this point to be asking that question. We have made that choice already and now we want to get rid of the consequences? Wishful thinking.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

Nobody's worse than Biden,
Does that include M Obama?

If Biden wins, he'll be out in four years. If M Obama wins, she could be around for eight years.

Of course, if MAGA is still whining about the 2020 election, we could easily have four more years of Biden followed by eight years of M Obama.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Never had me. Voted 3rd party in 2016 and 2020 and will do so again this year. He's an unprofessional clown and generally a scumbag of a person on top of that. I continue to be amazed that college educated adults still support him given his continuing antics but am excited to finally rid the party of Trump and hopefully trumpism too after November.
America First isn't going anyway once Trump is out of the picture.
It's already gone. It has morphed into MTGA which is doomed to failure.
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Phatbob said:

ttu_85 said:

Phatbob said:

ttu_85 said:

As a former and current DeSantis supporter can this thread die already.

Its now a Trump vs Biden/commie/woke election. No matter what we want this is where we are. Woulda, coulda, shoulda is past.

Time to pick one of only TWO REAL WORLD POSSIBILITIES, a loud mouth America first populist or a straight up leftest veggy that's wrecking this country by the day.

Whether we like it or not this is where we are? This thread was great at venting but time to put it to bed.

Pick one and settle in.
The reality is it has already been lost. Deciding which way you want to be executed, incompetence or malice is no real choice.
Ok. Give me a workable alternative that keeps the dems from winning given I find them by far the greater threat.. Seriously listening !!
Yeah, it's a little late at this point to be asking that question. We have made that choice already and now we want to get rid of the consequences? Wishful thinking.
So whats your point if you believe this.

And wishful thinking my ass. Its called the lessor of evils. Not all evils are the same. One is a pain in the ass the other one can get the country killed.

You should know my posting history. Give me a better option. Would honestly love to hear it.
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eric76 said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

Nobody's worse than Biden,
Does that include M Obama?

If Biden wins, he'll be out in four years. If M Obama wins, she could be around for eight years.

Of course, if MAGA is still whining about the 2020 election, we could easily have four more years of Biden followed by eight years of M Obama.


I think Michelle Obama would be a lot better than Biden. She isn't senile. She can speak in complete sentences.
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ttu_85 said:

Ags77 said:

Why is everyone so hell bent telling us we have to choose between 2 senile old dudes ?

Literally an old senile diaper wearing incumbent vs. an old senile diaper wearing guy who lost in 2020.

If that's our choice, why can't reasonable people choose to vote for third party, write in, or just leave it blank ? I keep hearing " that's not an option " or " you must choose" between Biden and Trump. Why ?

If I served you spinach and broccoli and you don't like either, would you say " you have to eat one" ? Of course not.

I encourage everyone if you want Biden or if you want Trump ... vote for them. But if you are like me and others and you don't want either, vote for neither.

Funny and ignorant. Take up with our current political process. In the general it will come down between two candidates UNLESS one side is split. The side that is split loses. Unless both are split and that hasn't happened in over 170 years.

Ladies and Gentleman I present you the election of 1992 that gave us Bill Clinton.

My goal is to piss off the hardcore brainless types on both sides. And yes Trumpers suck as does the I hate Trump therefor I give it to the rats-- they suck as well.

Both are mindless bots.

BTW Tech owned A&M in the big 12 era
There is no evidence whatsoever that Perot cost Bush the election in 1992. There is, however, a strong case to be made that Perot cost Clinton a larger margin of victory.
 
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