Trump Working Hard to Win Over Voters

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Jeeper79
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

Yes. You and the other true conservatives come here daily to incessantly bash Trump, but participate very little in destroying Biden and the woke left. If you could think rationally, you'd understand that winning this election must come from the right and if the right does win, Marxism does. The right must win and destroying the leading candidate on the right aids the left. Simple logic that you can't grasp.


Cry / laugh. Your boy is telling a critical demographic he doesn't want their support and you're getting on others for not thinking rationally?


Anyone voting for her was not likely ever voting for him.

Thats not what polling says. If nobody voting for her would vote for him then his numbers would be in the low 40s at best. So there are 100% absolutely lots of people that would cross over - maybe even enough to win.

It's mind blowing that MAGA thinks that trump can win without Haley votes. Who else is gonna vote for him? Dems?
Jeeper79
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Side note… chalk up one more Trump appointee that he now claims is a failure or in this case "average at best".

If this were a drinking game for how often this happens, we'd all be on the way to the hospital.
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what EXACTLY is Trump even saying here?

that somehow their Trumpian super intelligent donation system can track everyone contributing money, and somehow cross check it against any donations to Nikki Haley 3 months before?!?! and then block that donation online?

this doesn't even make logical sense! (shocker)

again and again, Trump is simply full of #$@ because even if he really wanted to enact this policy, it's impossible.

like most of the other farcical blather he spews on a daily basis.

I expect him to be able to know who has donated to Haley and somehow block it -

the same day he ends the war in Ukraine, the same day he ends the war in Gaza, and the same day he builds the wall and deports 6 million people.
LMCane
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911sAg said:

Ag with kids said:

911sAg said:

So vote Biden?
That's what you did when you chose Trump.
I swear you Rhonda fans probably want Biden over Trump....Then you will rant and rave on here for another 4 years how bad the dems are.
LMAO

DeSantis and Haley supporters for a year on here stating thousands of times that to vote for Trump is a vote for democrats and not to do it.

Trumpers now claiming everyone wants Biden.

if we wanted Biden, we would have been stating "vote Trump" this entire time.

but again, fourth grade logic is hard.
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bobbranco said:

These posts continue to be tirades. I don't understand the rationale behind acting the same way as Trump.


The point is Trump isn't focused on winning with posts like that. He made like 30+ posts about E. Jean Carroll last night when he could have praised Abbott and attacked Biden.
No Spin Ag
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TRM said:

bobbranco said:

These posts continue to be tirades. I don't understand the rationale behind acting the same way as Trump.


The point is Trump isn't focused on winning with posts like that. He made like 30+ posts about E. Jean Carroll last night when he could have praised Abbott and attacked Biden.


That's 30+ posts that team Biden is loving because they'll be able to use them against him to show him being "eratic" "unstable" "unfocused" and any other term they want to use to remind the people that actually matter when it comes to voting - the moderates and independents - why they need to, again, vote against him to keep him out of the White House.

Trump's social media posts get his maga thrilled, but that doesn't compare to the level of joy it brings to team Biden. In that sense, Trump is the gift that keeps on giving.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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https://unherd.com/2022/09/why-the-populists-failed/

Populism has a lifespan...MAGA's running out of steam and you're starting to see the beginning of the end.
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tremble said:

LatinAggie1997 said:

Completely asinine to allow his lack of decorum, tact, and humility, affect how you would vote.

BO had a ton of decorum and professionalism and his policies stunk. Biden naps all day and his policies stink.

Give me a candidate that implements more policies that benefit me than harm me and I will vote for them. I don't care if it is a D or a R.
The only options for me this cycle appeared to be Trump, DeSantis, and Scott.


Give me the best point guard, even if he doesn't wash his jersey, over the clean smelling turnover machine. If winning the league is the goal then the choice is easy. Too many would choose a different PG, lose terribly, and then talk about how your choice once worked at a soup kitchen. My choice wins the game, tournaments, and championships, because the point of playing in a basketball league is to win. My choice in PG might smell like dirty socks, might curse during the game, and might make obscene hand gestures to the opposing fans yelling at him, but he can dribble the damn ball amd score.


He is not going to get votes. Your point guard is a moron who can't stop dribbling the ball off his own feet, let alone get close enough the basket to shoot.



Inaccurate. In the world league of making the USA stronger Trump is the combo of Isaiah Thomas/Magic Johnson of point guards. You described all democrats. Give me a Mother Teresa combo of Pistol Pete/Kyrie /Curry and I'll cote for them.
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LMCane said:

911sAg said:

Ag with kids said:

911sAg said:

So vote Biden?
That's what you did when you chose Trump.
I swear you Rhonda fans probably want Biden over Trump....Then you will rant and rave on here for another 4 years how bad the dems are.
LMAO

DeSantis and Haley supporters for a year on here stating thousands of times that to vote for Trump is a vote for democrats and not to do it.

Are you going to ensure that Biden gets re-elected or are you going to vote for a change in the White House?
No Spin Ag
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LatinAggie1997 said:

tremble said:

LatinAggie1997 said:

Completely asinine to allow his lack of decorum, tact, and humility, affect how you would vote.

BO had a ton of decorum and professionalism and his policies stunk. Biden naps all day and his policies stink.

Give me a candidate that implements more policies that benefit me than harm me and I will vote for them. I don't care if it is a D or a R.
The only options for me this cycle appeared to be Trump, DeSantis, and Scott.


Give me the best point guard, even if he doesn't wash his jersey, over the clean smelling turnover machine. If winning the league is the goal then the choice is easy. Too many would choose a different PG, lose terribly, and then talk about how your choice once worked at a soup kitchen. My choice wins the game, tournaments, and championships, because the point of playing in a basketball league is to win. My choice in PG might smell like dirty socks, might curse during the game, and might make obscene hand gestures to the opposing fans yelling at him, but he can dribble the damn ball amd score.


He is not going to get votes. Your point guard is a moron who can't stop dribbling the ball off his own feet, let alone get close enough the basket to shoot.



Inaccurate. In the world league of making the USA stronger Trump is the combo of Isaiah Thomas/Magic Johnson of point guards. You described all democrats. Give me a Mother Teresa combo of Pistol Pete/Kyrie /Curry and I'll cote for them.


What, no Gary Peyton and John Stockton?

Come on, man.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Ellis Wyatt said:

LMCane said:

911sAg said:

Ag with kids said:

911sAg said:

So vote Biden?
That's what you did when you chose Trump.
I swear you Rhonda fans probably want Biden over Trump....Then you will rant and rave on here for another 4 years how bad the dems are.
LMAO

DeSantis and Haley supporters for a year on here stating thousands of times that to vote for Trump is a vote for democrats and not to do it.

Are you going to ensure that Biden gets re-elected or are you going to vote for a change in the White House?
Well dear leader has provided a convenient off ramp for just such an occasion.

"Sorry I can't vote for trump. Already donated to Haley."

So I can sit at home guilt free on Election Day. Trump's orders.
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Just another unnecessary unforced error by Trump reminding independents and suburban women why they voted against him last election.

Just a genuinely typical stupid move by Trump. He's going to beat Haley handily. Just shut up and let the primaries play out without pissing off voters you'll need in the general.
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SA68AG said:

Just another unnecessary unforced error by Trump reminding independents and suburban women why they voted against him last election.

Just a genuinely typical stupid move by Trump. He's going to beat Haley handily. Just shut up and let the primaries play out without pissing off voters you'll need in the general.
Yep. His unchecked "competative fire" really shows his stupid side.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

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Jeeper79
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SA68AG said:

Just another unnecessary unforced error by Trump reminding independents and suburban women why they voted against him last election.

Just a genuinely typical stupid move by Trump. He's going to beat Haley handily. Just shut up and let the primaries play out without pissing off voters you'll need in the general.
He thinks he's smart. He thinks he can bully people into supporting him. Why should ANYONE support such a guy, even if you agree with a lot of his policies? I know it's cliche, but you've got to stand up to bullies. Giving in makes it worse.
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Jeeper79 said:

SA68AG said:

Just another unnecessary unforced error by Trump reminding independents and suburban women why they voted against him last election.

Just a genuinely typical stupid move by Trump. He's going to beat Haley handily. Just shut up and let the primaries play out without pissing off voters you'll need in the general.
He thinks he's smart. He thinks he can bully people into supporting him. Why should ANYONE support such a guy, even if you agree with a lot of his policies? I know it's cliche, but you've got to stand up to bullies. Giving in makes it worse.
He's not bullying people into supporting him. He's not thinking that far ahead.

He's simply enraged that Haley is still in the race and he's flaunting that rage. He wants to ruin people who don't support him.
No Spin Ag
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barbacoa taco said:

Jeeper79 said:

SA68AG said:

Just another unnecessary unforced error by Trump reminding independents and suburban women why they voted against him last election.

Just a genuinely typical stupid move by Trump. He's going to beat Haley handily. Just shut up and let the primaries play out without pissing off voters you'll need in the general.
He thinks he's smart. He thinks he can bully people into supporting him. Why should ANYONE support such a guy, even if you agree with a lot of his policies? I know it's cliche, but you've got to stand up to bullies. Giving in makes it worse.
He's not bullying people into supporting him. He's not thinking that far ahead.

He's simply enraged that Haley is still in the race and he's flaunting that rage. He wants to ruin people who don't support him.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Dan Scott said:

In 2020, Biden beat Trump by 60K votes.

Last night Trump beat Haley by 35K votes. But 120K voted in the Dem primary. If he doesn't win over Haley voters, he does worse in 2024. The margin Biden beats him could be up to 155K votes.
where are you coming up with Biden beating trump by 60,000 votes?!?

Pennsylvania Popular vote 2020:

3,458,229
3,377,674

that's 80,155 votes right there.

Biden won by 12,700 votes in Georgia

Biden won by 11,800 votes in Arizona

that's 104,000 votes.

George W. Bush won the election by 537 votes in 2000.

then won by 60,000 votes in 2004.

other than Trump, most incumbents win their second election by larger margins than the initial election.
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suburban cowboy said:

Four more years of Biden inbound
He won't last 4 more years
Get Off My Lawn
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Trump wants to dispatch with Haley quickly. When she's out the $ and effort can be focused on the general. This is him turning the screws on several sides. If he can knock her out now, fence-sitters won't even remember Haley six months from now, let alone this post.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

Trump wants to dispatch with Haley quickly. When she's out the $ and effort can be focused on the general. This is him turning the screws on several sides. If he can knock her out now, fence-sitters won't even remember Haley six months from now, let alone this post.


They won't remember Haley because they will be voting for Newsom.
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I'd father vote for Putin than Trump. And that's also the problem with MAGA. They feel the same way.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

Trump wants to dispatch with Haley quickly. When she's out the $ and effort can be focused on the general. This is him turning the screws on several sides. If he can knock her out now, fence-sitters won't even remember Haley six months from now, let alone this post.


Seem to remember Trump being unopposed in 2020, and Biden hiding in his basement, and Trump still got beat.

I also remember Trumpers crowing about "turning on the Death Star" or some stupid saying like that in terms of fundraising apparatus in 2020. Still got beat by a potato.

Here we are in 2024, Trump is going to have way less money, and way less support in round 2 against the potato.

To me the only way Trump can win is if people are extremely apathetic and turnout is way down.
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shiftyandquick said:

I'd father vote for Putin than Trump. And that's also the problem with MAGA. They feel the same way.


We know communism is your goal.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

shiftyandquick said:

I'd father vote for Putin than Trump. And that's also the problem with MAGA. They feel the same way.


We know communism is your goal.
To be fair, we've also seen some MAGA in f16 literally say they'd rather have Putin than Biden (or any other dem).
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rgag12 said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

Trump wants to dispatch with Haley quickly. When she's out the $ and effort can be focused on the general. This is him turning the screws on several sides. If he can knock her out now, fence-sitters won't even remember Haley six months from now, let alone this post.


Seem to remember Trump being unopposed in 2020, and Biden hiding in his basement, and Trump still got beat.

I also remember Trumpers crowing about "turning on the Death Star" or some stupid saying like that in terms of fundraising apparatus in 2020. Still got beat by a potato.

Here we are in 2024, Trump is going to have way less money, and way less support in round 2 against the potato.

To me the only way Trump can win is if people are extremely apathetic and turnout is way down.



And the other fundamental issue is that while Trump has been running around for the last four years whining about the election being stolen there has been very little change in the laws that allowed the voting discrepancy issues in the first place. Instead, his strategy has been the same as it was in 2016 and 2020. Beat your chest and crap on people who might be able to help you.

The election laws were never repaired, and Trump is setting himself up to lose again.
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shiftyandquick said:

I'd father vote for Putin than Trump. And that's also the problem with MAGA. They feel the same way.

Sure. We can absolutely believe you're for communism.
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I gotta say. Trump's tweets are mean and hilarious. DeSantis was my choice. But no question Trump is the guy now.
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LOL ... you almost can't write stuff funnier than this. The Russian porn guy that gave Trump's Truth Social $8M to stay afloat is the nephew of a former Putin staffer and has been charged by the SEC for insider trading.


Russian Porn Guy
Aggie Apotheosis
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Wait a minute, so the man who said that Haley's not qualified to take on world leaders is also the man who ... nominated Haley to take on world leaders?
Get Off My Lawn
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In representative government we all make compromises. I wasn't planning to vote for Trump in the primary, but I will in the general because I'd rather disfunction in DC than Maoism in the US.

Those on their moral high horse saying MAGA screwed us by supporting Trump are simply being egotistical and conceited about not getting their way.

Guess what - I didn't either. And neither do 350M other Americans who don't get nominated. But some of us can see through the media lies and put aside our disappointment in Trump's shortcomings to cast a vote which swings the pendulum back to the right in SOME regards.

You can have a say in choosing which mercenary wins. I say it's better to have one who wins some battles you care about than concede them all.

A petulant puritanical stance doesn't a moral superior make.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

In representative government we all make compromises. I wasn't planning to vote for Trump in the primary, but I will in the general because I'd rather disfunction in DC than Maoism in the US.

Those on their moral high horse saying MAGA screwed us by supporting Trump are simply being egotistical and conceited about not getting their way.

Guess what - I didn't either. And neither do 350M other Americans who don't get nominated. But some of us can see through the media lies and put aside our disappointment in Trump's shortcomings to cast a vote which swings the pendulum back to the right in SOME regards.

You can have a say in choosing which mercenary wins. I say it's better to have one who wins some battles you care about than concede them all.

A petulant puritanical stance doesn't a moral superior make.

Good post. And when a documented 95% of journalist and the majority of media outlets are liberal, it's no wonder we have what we have. They won't even broadcast trump's speeches any more, but are fine with Biden hiding in a bunker.
 
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