2024 Oscar nominations: Margot and Greta snubbed for Barbie, but Ken gets a nod - Vox

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Well, it's official: Ken is an Oscar nominee. Ryan Gosling was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for Barbie, while Barbie and her female director were shut out.

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Congratulations to Ken for being the real winner in the feminist Barbie movie.

And people wonder why no one takes the Oscars seriously. And have not in several decades. With these clowns its all about politics or social messaging/engineering. Production quality, acting ,etc have long been irrelevant.

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And people wonder why no one takes the Oscars seriously

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haven't see it, but are you saying gosling shoudln't have been nominated, or robbie was snubbed?

Haven't seen the movie, but maybe Barbie's role wasn't challenging or Robbie didn't do anything special to merit an Oscar. Smiling and being ditzy in every scene isn't demanding.

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ttu_85 said:

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And people wonder why no one takes the Oscars seriously

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haven't see it, but are you saying gosling shoudln't have been nominated, or robbie was snubbed?

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I think it's just the irony that the only nominee in feminist movie was male. And the "Ken" character at that. It is pretty funny.

As an aside, my wife loved Barbie when she was a kid. I was out of town working so she bribed our teenage sons to go with her. I told her it was feminist BS and she'd hate it. I was right LOL.

Reading that, you'd think that men were taking nominations for best actress away from women...

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ttu_85 said:

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And people wonder why no one takes the Oscars seriously

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haven't see it, but are you saying gosling shoudln't have been nominated, or robbie was snubbed?

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No I'm saying the Oscars have long made themselves irrelevant to anyone one but the elite few. Its a shame, If they'd stayed true to the original idea of the Oscars most everyone would pay attention to the specifics and debate according. No longer worth it.

You know this has the Hollywood feminists and elitists furious. I can just imagine the cackling hens on The View losing their minds.

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And people wonder why no one takes the Oscars seriously. And have not in several decades. With these clowns its all about politics or social messaging/engineering. Production quality, acting ,etc have long been irrelevant.

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You are saying they chose to nominate a man and not any women from the Barbie movie because of "politics" and "social messaging"?

That seems…unlikely.

The last time I watched the Oscars was 1999. The fact that Saving Private Ryan lost best picture to some arts and farts Shakespeare film did it for me. Done.

SPR was a tribute film to our veterans and our country itself. When it got snubbed I was literally beside myself.

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You know this has the Hollywood feminists and elitists furious. I can just imagine the cackling hens on The View losing their minds.

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I disagree. They probably love it. Margot Robbie is everything none of them ever were or could have ever hoped to have been. They may play nice to her face but you know they hate her.

Urban Ag said:

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The last time I watched the Oscars was 1999. The fact that Saving Private Lost best picture to some arts and farts Shakespeare film did it for me. Done.

SPR was a tribute film to our veterans and our country itself. When it got snubbed I was literally beside myself.

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This was before 911 so ignoring and/or impugning the military was sop in Hollywood.

That is funny, but I don't think that's why people don't take the Oscars seriously

(Poster implied they got it wrong.maybe that wasn't his intent)


I remember that saving private Ryan versus Shakespeare in love. The latter is a really good movie, but nowhere near saving private Ryan . In fact, it was not a better picture than any of the nominees.


But at least I had heard of all the movies that year. The last few years it's rare, that I have heard of more than two of the nominees.

I think no one takes the Oscars seriously because probably 90% of Americans haven't seen most, if any, of the films that get nominated.

I mean, the last years in particular, I'll look at the list and I haven't even heard of these films, much less seen them. At least Maverick was nominated last year and I fully admit that outside of Jo Jo Rabbit and last couple Avengers movies, IMO it's about the best thing Hollywood has put out in 10+ years.


edit - yep, I think we're both saying the same thing

Gosling did a great job, well deserved nomination.

Urban Ag said:

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The last time I watched the Oscars was 1999. The fact that Saving Private Lost best picture to some arts and farts Shakespeare film did it for me. Done.

SPR was a tribute film to our veterans and our country itself. When it got snubbed I was literally beside myself.

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The year for me was 1983. E.T., a charming and likeable, but otherwise not noteworthy movie beat Blade Runner for best visual effects.

E.T.'s biggest effect moment was a kid on a bike on a wire harness in front of a blue screen. Blade Runner is still visually relevant today with some stunningly beautiful visuals. The Oscars lost all credibility with me then and I realized that the Oscars were nothing more than a popularity contest wrapped around a Hollywood circle jerk.

I have nothing to add to that other than I hated ET in the theatre as a little kid and I still hate it now and we've never shown it to our kids. If I had met ET in my backyard I would have dispatched him 00 Buck and thrown that thing in the bone yard.

Urban Ag said:

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The last time I watched the Oscars was 1999. The fact that Saving Private Lost best picture to some arts and farts Shakespeare film did it for me. Done.

SPR was a tribute film to our veterans and our country itself. When it got snubbed I was literally beside myself.

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Good example. One of many.

Urban Ag said:

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The last time I watched the Oscars was 1999. The fact that Saving Private Lost best picture to some arts and farts Shakespeare film did it for me. Done.

SPR was a tribute film to our veterans and our country itself. When it got snubbed I was literally beside myself.

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Schizophrenia!!

Honestly, I feel the same way too, but clearly a lot of people liked the movie, so I characterized is as such. In any event, the visual effects were a joke.

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ttu_85 said:

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And people wonder why no one takes the Oscars seriously. And have not in several decades. With these clowns its all about politics or social messaging/engineering. Production quality, acting ,etc have long been irrelevant.

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You are saying they chose to nominate a man and not any women from the Barbie movie because of "politics" and "social messaging"?

That seems…unlikely.

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No. I am saying IDGaF what or who they nominate because they no longer have street cred with a lot of people based on past nominations based on politics. Its actually pretty simple.

Edit: Urban Ag has articulated the case well.

I just do what the voices tell me Rob

Gosling is a talented actor.

But RDJ didn't get a nomination for Iron Man, or Chris Evans for Winter Soldier, because the MCU films were 'comic book' action movies. But now all of a sudden a performance in a movie about Barbie is worthy of being nominated? Come on.

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Urban Ag said:

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The last time I watched the Oscars was 1999. The fact that Saving Private Lost best picture to some arts and farts Shakespeare film did it for me. Done.

SPR was a tribute film to our veterans and our country itself. When it got snubbed I was literally beside myself.

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Good example. One of many.

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It also filmed combat scenes in ways that had never been done before. People literally left the theatre both very proud to be American, emotionally destroyed, and sick at their stomachs. My wife (GF at the time) cried off and on for hours after it. Hanks performance was legendary but so was Sizemore's and the rest of what was an amazing ensemble cast. It was a perfect movie. I'm still pissed about it.

Haven't watched it - but I would say Gossling was the center of 90% of the clips, photos and memes I've seen about that movie.

It's a sweet irony if a man outperformed everyone else on that movie and was recognized as such.

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2024 Oscar nominations: Margot and Greta snubbed for Barbie, but Ken gets a nod - Vox

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Well, it's official: Ken is an Oscar nominee. Ryan Gosling was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for Barbie, while Barbie and her female director were shut out.

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Congratulations to Ken for being the real winner in the feminist Barbie movie.

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He was nominated for Best Actor in the Field of C**k Blocking The Female Leads in a Movie

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company.

Disclosure... in 1975-76, my father got us put on the pre-release for some Mattel toys and I got to evaluate them as a kid and give my feedback to influence the product.

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you played with Barbies as a kid. Explains a lot

I saw the movie with my wife and found it plenty funny, and a clever take on trying to make a Barbie movie.

But there's no way I would give a best director nom to Gerwig, and I probably wouldn't give a best actress nom to Robbie, though they both did very well in their respective roles.

A ton of the commercial success (a huge reason for the justification for why both are perceived as snubs) was built in due to the barbie brand and the marketing push to get everyone from an 8 year old up to a 60 year old woman interested in the movie. And smart. But that doesn't make a film great.

It was good; not great. And Gerwig did not do nearly enough to build out depth in Robbie's Barbie character, while she did build depth in Gosling's Ken. That's why he ends up with a nom and the other 2 didn't.

Oppenheimer better take best picture, best director, best actor & best supporting actor. After that, the Oscars can politicize the other categories all they want.

Saw the movie Max. It was better than expected. But NO ONE in that movie deserved an Oscar nomination.

I am convinced that Saving Private Ryan made it socially acceptable for WWII vets to talk about the negative of their war experience. For 50 years after it would seem the unspoken rule is that it was horrible for everyone, your expereince wasn't anything special, so why air it to those that weren't there and wouldn't understand. There were books, sure, but it seems like a proverbial dam burst, and just in time to record a lot of those expereinces before they were lost. (Not soon enough for my Pacific vetern grandfather, unfortunately.) I think it provided valuable balance to a rapidly mythologized event.

In my opinion, Saving Private Ryan is in the top 10 of most important Hollywood films ever made.