Is there ANY chance that all of these illegals will eventually be deported?

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Joes
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Tea Party said:

Joes said:

Tea Party said:

Q: Is there ANY chance that all of these illegals will eventually be deported?
sam callahan said:

Zero

This answer getting a lot of stars means you know that once illegals cross the border they are practically here for good.

Thus common sense would dictate that any actions that would incentivize illegals to cross would be a poor course of action. As in, advertising that we will give free transportation across the country for illegals would be an idiotic action because it incentivizes simply crossing the bare minimum into Texas.

I agree the union as it stands would have near zero chance at mass deportations, thus the only logical choice we're left with is TEXIT since the border has been advertised as open with transportation.


It's a nice fantasy but Texas isn't leaving the US. We're being overrun far faster than any momentum for that to ever happen could build.

I'd venture it's a closer reality than any chance America pulls back from its slow suicide via leftism.

The bigger fantasy is hoping R leaders dominate Ds into submission or the R populace leads a culture revitalization yielding fewer future D voters.

Neither option is being supported by the GOP thus the most likely scenario is slow suicide to leftism via illegals and the welfare state.


I agree, I'm not saying there's a more likely or better solution, in fact I'm confident there's not a solution of any kind that will ever happen. The path is set.

And even if the illegals work and are law abiding once they're here that still doesn't change the fact that importing whole states' worth of people every year will quickly end any American culture that's left.
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When the economy collapses and the freebies end and there are no jobs to be had washing dishes they will leave on rheir own.
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Joes said:

Tea Party said:

Joes said:

Tea Party said:

Q: Is there ANY chance that all of these illegals will eventually be deported?
sam callahan said:

Zero

This answer getting a lot of stars means you know that once illegals cross the border they are practically here for good.

Thus common sense would dictate that any actions that would incentivize illegals to cross would be a poor course of action. As in, advertising that we will give free transportation across the country for illegals would be an idiotic action because it incentivizes simply crossing the bare minimum into Texas.

I agree the union as it stands would have near zero chance at mass deportations, thus the only logical choice we're left with is TEXIT since the border has been advertised as open with transportation.


It's a nice fantasy but Texas isn't leaving the US. We're being overrun far faster than any momentum for that to ever happen could build.

I'd venture it's a closer reality than any chance America pulls back from its slow suicide via leftism.

The bigger fantasy is hoping R leaders dominate Ds into submission or the R populace leads a culture revitalization yielding fewer future D voters.

Neither option is being supported by the GOP thus the most likely scenario is slow suicide to leftism via illegals and the welfare state.


I agree, I'm not saying there's a more likely or better solution, in fact I'm confident there's not a solution of any kind that will ever happen. The path is set.

And even if the illegals work and are law abiding once they're here that still doesn't change the fact that importing whole states' worth of people every year will quickly end any American culture that's left.
Exactly. I think the path is set too and any attempt to deviate from said path will be incredibly difficult, especially if we advertise an open border and free transportation deeper into the U.S.

Either an incredibly long series of conservative baby steps with near zero give to the left (nearly impossible with the current GOP),
or a President that is willing to implement mass deportations regardless of activist judges (rooting for DeSantis but I highly doubt he has the cojones),
or a drastic alternative like TEXIT (too naive and gov dependent of a populace).
Joes
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Tea Party said:

Joes said:

Tea Party said:

Joes said:

Tea Party said:

Q: Is there ANY chance that all of these illegals will eventually be deported?
sam callahan said:

Zero

This answer getting a lot of stars means you know that once illegals cross the border they are practically here for good.

Thus common sense would dictate that any actions that would incentivize illegals to cross would be a poor course of action. As in, advertising that we will give free transportation across the country for illegals would be an idiotic action because it incentivizes simply crossing the bare minimum into Texas.

I agree the union as it stands would have near zero chance at mass deportations, thus the only logical choice we're left with is TEXIT since the border has been advertised as open with transportation.


It's a nice fantasy but Texas isn't leaving the US. We're being overrun far faster than any momentum for that to ever happen could build.

I'd venture it's a closer reality than any chance America pulls back from its slow suicide via leftism.

The bigger fantasy is hoping R leaders dominate Ds into submission or the R populace leads a culture revitalization yielding fewer future D voters.

Neither option is being supported by the GOP thus the most likely scenario is slow suicide to leftism via illegals and the welfare state.


I agree, I'm not saying there's a more likely or better solution, in fact I'm confident there's not a solution of any kind that will ever happen. The path is set.

And even if the illegals work and are law abiding once they're here that still doesn't change the fact that importing whole states' worth of people every year will quickly end any American culture that's left.
Exactly. I think the path is set too and any attempt to deviate from said path will be incredibly difficult, especially if we advertise an open border and free transportation deeper into the U.S.

Either an incredibly long series of conservative baby steps with near zero give to the left (nearly impossible with the current GOP),
or a President that is willing to implement mass deportations regardless of activist judges (rooting for DeSantis but I highly doubt he has the cojones),
or a drastic alternative like TEXIT (too naive and gov dependent of a populace).


As easy as it is to bash the politicians the main reason for my pessimism is the public. You couldn't realistically win or stay in office if you even promised to do what needs to be done, much less actually tried to do it. If you actually cut the budget by just 1% or deported 1% of the tens of millions of illegals there would be mass riots and death threats way bigger than 2020. So politicians at best will say things to get elected and then say it's too hard to do what they pledged. And it probably is.

Kick the can…
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smucket said:

aTmAg said:

Get rid of entitlements for non-citizens. Then the ones who are here to mooch will deport themselves. Those here to bust their asses and contribute will stay. Win-win.
I think this is partially true. There will be some portion of them that become criminals, gang members, etc. joining cohorts who have already been here doing same awhile. No doubt in my opinion the criminal population increases because of the invasion, which will then require a Fed gov't response, succeeding in making the FedGov enterprise bigger. Everything that doesn't make sense to us plain folk is because we don't realize the FedGov only cares about it's own continuation and expansion.
I just looked it up and according to Cato:
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In 2018, the illegal immigrant criminal conviction rate was 782 per 100,000 illegal immigrants, 535 per 100,000 legal immigrants, and 1,422 per 100,000 nativeborn Americans.
So statistically, immigrants of both kinds would improve our crime rate.
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Zero. But ship all Mexican and Central American immigrant military aged males to the bluest cities in the bluest states. Give them ice picks and shanks (for self defense). Amphetamines (upon request) to keep them alert.

Can you imagine several thousand sex starved macho ass Mexican dudes who call each other "guey" (castrated Bull) as a term of endearment descending upon liberal ass Santa Cruz, CA.

Maybe they can eventually turn these places closer to red, or at least start some form of conflict.
Kraft Punk
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Yep

The goat will deport all the scum just like he did last time
AggieVictor10
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Reagan had the right idea.
Rongagin71
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When Dems say the immigration process is broken and needs repair they do NOT mean it should be easier to deport illegals...they could have had that way back when Reagan was Pres.
The simple demand that the current law must be obeyed or Mayorkas gets impeached is a start.

Eisenhower had more than a million, mostly Mexicans, deported in about a year, but he was also able to build the interstate highway system in just a few years...things have changed.

Recently a human smuggler apparently used GPS to cut across Texas ranches....
https://texasscorecard.com/local/human-smuggler-causes-150k-in-damage-driving-through-private-property/
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AggieVictor10 said:

Reagan had the right idea.
Amnesty?

I'd say that was the worst decision Reagan ever made and we're still feeling the effects of it today...
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It would take a the end of the world as we know it (TEOTWAWKI) type of event for any serious movement towards mass deportation but by that point we might not have enough resources/manpower to do anything.
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TexAgs91 said:

I'd love to see the National Guard circle Colony Ridge while ICE agents went in and rounded up illegals and deported them all to Antarctica (or another country in an opposite hemisphere) while the military is decimating cartels.

Send the bill to Joe Biden.



That won't happen because we all know the cameras will be rolling and the MSM will push that image in a split screen with Nazis rounding up Jews and putting them on trains.
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Send them to Ukraine. Two birds, one stone.
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Burdizzo said:

TexAgs91 said:

I'd love to see the National Guard circle Colony Ridge while ICE agents went in and rounded up illegals and deported them all to Antarctica (or another country in an opposite hemisphere) while the military is decimating cartels.

Send the bill to Joe Biden.



That won't happen because we all know the cameras will be rolling and the MSM will push that image in a split screen with Nazis rounding up Jews and putting them on trains.
So if republicans can never resist Marxists because their media will say bad things about us, what is the logical conclusion of accepting defeat after defeat without ever achieving a significant victory?

This is like we're in a poker game and we keep getting bad hands. We know we keep getting bad hands so even if there's a chance we could play it we don't. We play very tight and just watch our chips steadily evaporate until we're gone and out of the game. When we do lose all our chips it's not a surprise. You knew this point would come an hour or two earlier.

Historically, how does it go for those who find themselves out of the game when Marxists are in power?
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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Hungry Ojos said:

Is there ANY chance that all of these illegals will eventually be deported?

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This is just wishful thinking, right? None of them are going anywhere, right?
You are correct. It is logistically and pragmatically impossible, and probably legally-impossible as well.
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TexAgs91 said:

Burdizzo said:

TexAgs91 said:

I'd love to see the National Guard circle Colony Ridge while ICE agents went in and rounded up illegals and deported them all to Antarctica (or another country in an opposite hemisphere) while the military is decimating cartels.

Send the bill to Joe Biden.



That won't happen because we all know the cameras will be rolling and the MSM will push that image in a split screen with Nazis rounding up Jews and putting them on trains.
So if republicans can never resist Marxists because their media will say bad things about us, what is the logical conclusion of accepting defeat after defeat without ever achieving a significant victory?

This is like we're in a poker game and we keep getting bad hands. We know we keep getting bad hands so even if there's a chance we could play it we don't. We play very tight and just watch our chips steadily evaporate until we're gone and out of the game. When we do lose all our chips it's not a surprise. You knew this point would come an hour or two earlier.

Historically, how does it go for those who find themselves out of the game when Marxists are in power?
I share your anger and frustration, but it's over, there's no way to realistically beat the other side at this point. I'm not suggesting for anyone to stop caring or trying, but the best we can hope for now is to somewhat slow the destruction. Ever since the 60s this outcome was inevitable. You can brainstorm and yell on the sidelines but when the other team is up by 28 points in the 4th quarter and has the ball and the refs only call penalties on one side all you can realistically do is watch the clock count down and wish you had played better in the first half.
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Zero chance for mass deportations.

The only way to move the needle at all is to continue bussing as many as possible to NY, Chicago, etc in order to make the elites confront the expensive reality of their policy choices. The needle is moving - very slowly. Keep it up Abbott.
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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

This is a complaint I hold against DeSantis and Trump.

Both have spoken of mass deportations, but it is not possible. It would will be political suicide for Republicans for a generation.

As a candidate if I say we will let them stay, I lose votes. The truth of the matter is that we have no choice but to let them stay unless they commit a crime (yes I know they committed a crime by coming over). This is why closing the border is so important at this point.

The only saving grace, and main reason why I am running for a Congress, is that we must coalesce the Hispanic vote to the Republican Party. We can do it, and the time is now. The Hispanic voting population does not like the trajectory of the Dems. Thus, we turn a weapon of the Democrats into a weapon of our own for the next 3 generations.
Just spitballing here, but I like the direction your thoughts are going.

Fact: We can't mass deport all the illegals. But, we can:

  • Identify who is a natural born citizen or naturalized citizen, and who is not currently a US citizen.
  • CLOSE THE BORDER TO NEW ARRIVALS.
  • Work to document all undocumented residents of this country.
  • Have some sort of new designation for those who came illegally to the country other than a Green Card. Say, a PRAUD. (Permanent Resident Arriving Undocumented Designation)
  • A PRAUD will NEVER be given voting rights, unless they go through the Naturalization process.
  • A PRAUD who commits a violent crime or felony will be deported back to their country of origin.

Part of this strategy is a method of dealing with who is already here, but part of it is to also eliminate the motivation (demographic change for voting purposes) for mass illegal immigration being perpetrated by the Democrats.
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