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it makes them look like they think they're above everyone else. Crazy times we live in.

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They are, without a doubt. This is how marxism always works.

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After Hunter Biden's surprise appearance in front of the House Oversight and Reform Committee on Wednesday, the House Judiciary Committee voted to hold him in contempt of Congress.

In a party line vote 23-14, the House Judiciary Committee approved the resolution to hold the son of President Joe Biden in contempt of Congress for ignoring a subpoena to testify in a closed-door deposition.

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Via Hot Air

Yet more proof that there is not a single Democrat with a soul or shred of ethics.

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Representative Nancy Mace just went OFF on Hunter Biden. "You are the epitome of white privilege."

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A white, Republican Rep actually used that term? Someone should take-away her GOP membership card and secret decoder ring.

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Would have been so much smarter to say "Democrat privilege". Why are these Republicans so terrible at pointing out the double standards that Democrats enjoy?

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That is not a term of the left. They would immediately reject it.

Using their own words has more power.

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Maybe from the perspective of their dimwit voters and the lunatic fringe leftists in congress. People like the Bidens don't actually believe that crap, it's just a means to an end for power/money hungry corrupt sociopaths. Narratives they go along with that are used to manipulate stupid emotional leftists into empowering them.

I guess folks mad over MTG showing Hunter a redacted photo of his own *****.

Was Hunter filming a campaign commercial for his dear old dad?

Even for a Biden this was a hilariously tacky/disgusting/gross maneuver.

I'm just surprised they didn't somehow accuse DJT Jr. of breaking into a Starbucks and defecating in the women's room or something today, to distract from it.

Honestly thought this story was a Babylon bee headline the first few times I read it.

He thinks he is above the law for he wants to testify in the open after Congress told him it will be a closed testimony, which he did not like.

I guess he thinks he is running the show, like his father.

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Yet more proof that there is not a single Democrat with a soul or shred of ethics.

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Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida offered to make a deal with his GOP colleagues: He'd vote with them to hold Biden in contempt for failing to cooperate with a committee subpoena if they also agreed to apply the same standards to congressional Republicans who, just last year, also failed to cooperate with a committee subpoena.

Any guesses what happened next?

"You can get my vote," Moskowitz said, "but I want you to show the American people that you're serious. ... Show that you're serious and that everyone is not above the law."

They refused.

Don't lecture about ethics when this republican-lead circus is full of hypocrites. They aren't serious about Hunter Biden,and they don't care what he did. This is simply to try to have an effect on the election. You know it, I know it....everyone knows it.

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Representative Nancy Mace just went OFF on Hunter Biden. "You are the epitome of white privilege."

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A white, Republican Rep actually used that term? Someone should take-away her GOP membership card and secret decoder ring.

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Use the weapons of your enemies against them.

Always keep your head down.... Number one rule of trench warfare.
Never mind this is a Biden... Carry on.

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Yet more proof that there is not a single Democrat with a soul or shred of ethics.

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Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida offered to make a deal with his GOP colleagues: He'd vote with them to hold Biden in contempt for failing to cooperate with a committee subpoena if they also agreed to apply the same standards to congressional Republicans who, just last year, also failed to cooperate with a committee subpoena.

Any guesses what happened next?

"You can get my vote," Moskowitz said, "but I want you to show the American people that you're serious. ... Show that you're serious and that everyone is not above the law."

They refused.

Don't lecture about ethics when this republican-lead circus is full of hypocrites. They aren't serious about Hunter Biden,and they don't care what he did. This is simply to try to have an effect on the election. You know it, I know it....everyone knows it.

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Effect on elections? Did you say that with a straight face and use the word hypocrite?

Holy ****

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Yet more proof that there is not a single Democrat with a soul or shred of ethics.

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Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida offered to make a deal with his GOP colleagues: He'd vote with them to hold Biden in contempt for failing to cooperate with a committee subpoena if they also agreed to apply the same standards to congressional Republicans who, just last year, also failed to cooperate with a committee subpoena.

Any guesses what happened next?

"You can get my vote," Moskowitz said, "but I want you to show the American people that you're serious. ... Show that you're serious and that everyone is not above the law."

They refused.

Don't lecture about ethics when this republican-lead circus is full of hypocrites. They aren't serious about Hunter Biden,and they don't care what he did. This is simply to try to have an effect on the election. You know it, I know it....everyone knows it.

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Of course they refused. Much like Harry Reid's boneheaded idea to eliminate filibusters,member of Congress being able to subpoena each other is a horribad idea and a very short sighted one at that.

Because who wouldn't want to get Pelosi and Schiff in a deposition room for a day or two about RussiaGate and the events of Jan 6th, among many other things.

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That is not a term of the left. They would immediately reject it.

Using their own words has more power.

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Maybe from the perspective of their dimwit voters and the lunatic fringe leftists in congress. People like the Bidens don't actually believe that crap, it's just a means to an end for power/money hungry corrupt sociopaths.

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And that's the same reason Mace used their terminology.

She also doesn't believe it. She is just pointing out that if there were ever any merit to the claim of white privilege, Hunter Biden is the poster child.

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Yet more proof that there is not a single Democrat with a soul or shred of ethics.

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Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida offered to make a deal with his GOP colleagues: He'd vote with them to hold Biden in contempt for failing to cooperate with a committee subpoena if they also agreed to apply the same standards to congressional Republicans who, just last year, also failed to cooperate with a committee subpoena.

Any guesses what happened next?

"You can get my vote," Moskowitz said, "but I want you to show the American people that you're serious. ... Show that you're serious and that everyone is not above the law."

They refused.

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In both cases, democrats are the ones pulling stunts. Democrats always twist the law and act unethically.
We need to start jailing democrats.

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He thinks he is above the law for he wants to testify in the open after Congress told him it will be a closed testimony, which he did not like.

I guess he thinks he is running the show, like his father.

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What I don't get is why they are opposed to doing it in public. We expected full transparency with Trumps impeachment.

I think all of it should be transparent, regardless of whose being impeached. And they should have arrested Hunter yesterday. They went after Bannon et al.

I think in the end, it should matter what side of the isle you're on...there must be consistency. If you ignore a subpoena, you should be found in contempt and all that comes with it.

I don't trust closed door meetings by any one party.

It's so the republicans lawyers can ask longer more detailed questions without the circus of a public hearing. Hunter can't filibuster as easy as a public hearing. Trumps kids did one, but hunter is above the law apparently. I think the republicans should do a public hearing before they lose the house and get nothing. Let it be a circus but ask good questions and demand answers.

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What I don't get is why they are opposed to doing it in public. We expected full transparency with Trumps impeachment.

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Have you ever watched the kabuki theater that is a public hearing in the House? Five minutes per member to shoud and scream about whatever is their latest woke theme, du jour, no meaningful nor direct questioning, constant interruptions, etc.

Closed door depositions allow for more detailed questions with direct follow up questions to remove ambiguities. Further, Hunter and his lawyers would have the opportunity to conduct clean-up on the transcripts with the errata sheets.

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Yet more proof that there is not a single Democrat with a soul or shred of ethics.

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Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida offered to make a deal with his GOP colleagues: He'd vote with them to hold Biden in contempt for failing to cooperate with a committee subpoena if they also agreed to apply the same standards to congressional Republicans who, just last year, also failed to cooperate with a committee subpoena.

Any guesses what happened next?

"You can get my vote," Moskowitz said, "but I want you to show the American people that you're serious. ... Show that you're serious and that everyone is not above the law."

They refused.

Don't lecture about ethics when this republican-lead circus is full of hypocrites. They aren't serious about Hunter Biden,and they don't care what he did. This is simply to try to have an effect on the election. You know it, I know it....everyone knows it.

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This committee didn't subpoena those people, so this committee wouldn't vote to hold them in contempt, right?

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Yet more proof that there is not a single Democrat with a soul or shred of ethics.

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Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida offered to make a deal with his GOP colleagues: He'd vote with them to hold Biden in contempt for failing to cooperate with a committee subpoena if they also agreed to apply the same standards to congressional Republicans who, just last year, also failed to cooperate with a committee subpoena.

Any guesses what happened next?

"You can get my vote," Moskowitz said, "but I want you to show the American people that you're serious. ... Show that you're serious and that everyone is not above the law."

They refused.

Don't lecture about ethics when this republican-lead circus is full of hypocrites. They aren't serious about Hunter Biden,and they don't care what he did. This is simply to try to have an effect on the election. You know it, I know it....everyone knows it.

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I didn't lecture about the positive ethics of anyone. I said there is no such thing as a Dem that has a soul or ethics. Nothing you or they have ever said or ever done gives evidence to the contrary. I'd be perfectly fine purging ourselves of the lot of DC critters regardless of party affiliation.

Never mind that there is a difference between sending a subpoena to a citizen and an elected official.

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This committee didn't subpoena those people, so this committee wouldn't vote to hold them in contempt, right?

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Technically, that is correct since the House changed hands and this is a brand new Congressional Session. Not everything gets held over from past sessions unless they choose to do so.

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This committee didn't subpoena those people, so this committee wouldn't vote to hold them in contempt, right?

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Technically, that is correct since the House changed hands and this is a brand new Congressional Session. Not everything gets held over from past sessions unless they choose to do so.

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So who has to vote to hold, say, Jim Jordan in contempt for not appearing for the Jan6 committee? Who has to vote to hold Hunter in contempt?

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For people who were at the #HunterBiden hearing today, who was operating this DJI Ronin 4D? That is a Netflix spec camera and I have not seen one of those in that hearing room before. Is this for the Hunter Biden documentary? Did Hunter Biden disrupt an official proceeding of Congress to engage in a for-profit endeavor?

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Now someone accusing Hunter of crashing the hearing as a stunt for his Netflix documentary.

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This committee didn't subpoena those people, so this committee wouldn't vote to hold them in contempt, right?

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Technically, that is correct since the House changed hands and this is a brand new Congressional Session. Not everything gets held over from past sessions unless they choose to do so.

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So who has to vote to hold, say, Jim Jordan in contempt for not appearing for the Jan6 committee? Who has to vote to hold Hunter in contempt?

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Dems can try to call a vote but they are not in control of the House. I suppose Johnson could try to do it but he would out of the Speakership like a fart in a dust storm if he tried.

Again let me say what a horrific idea this is, to allow new Congressional sessions and committees to subpoena othe House members and force contempt proceedings if they do not comply. That would be awful for both sides of the aisle, tie the House up in knots to where it could not function at all as open air internecine warfare raged.

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This committee didn't subpoena those people, so this committee wouldn't vote to hold them in contempt, right?

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Technically, that is correct since the House changed hands and this is a brand new Congressional Session. Not everything gets held over from past sessions unless they choose to do so.

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So who has to vote to hold, say, Jim Jordan in contempt for not appearing for the Jan6 committee? Who has to vote to hold Hunter in contempt?

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Dems can try to call a vote but they are not in control of the House. I suppose Johnson could try to do it but he would out of the Speakership like a fart in a dust storm if he tried.

Again let me say what a horrific idea this is, to allow new Congressional sessions and committees to subpoena othe House members and force contempt proceedings if they do not comply. That would be awful for both sides of the aisle, tie the House up in knots to where it could not function at all as open air internecine warfare raged.

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So the entire Congress has to vote to hold people in contempt for ignoring a subpoena, not just the committee that subpoenaed them?

Yes. But the Speaker decides whether to hold the Housewide vote or not.

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Yet more proof that there is not a single Democrat with a soul or shred of ethics.

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Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida offered to make a deal with his GOP colleagues: He'd vote with them to hold Biden in contempt for failing to cooperate with a committee subpoena if they also agreed to apply the same standards to congressional Republicans who, just last year, also failed to cooperate with a committee subpoena.

Any guesses what happened next?

"You can get my vote," Moskowitz said, "but I want you to show the American people that you're serious. ... Show that you're serious and that everyone is not above the law."

They refused.

Don't lecture about ethics when this republican-lead circus is full of hypocrites. They aren't serious about Hunter Biden,and they don't care what he did. This is simply to try to have an effect on the election. You know it, I know it....everyone knows it.

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Its crazy. Why won't the Reps question him out in the open? The GOP are the biggest bunch of *******.

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Yet more proof that there is not a single Democrat with a soul or shred of ethics.

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Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida offered to make a deal with his GOP colleagues: He'd vote with them to hold Biden in contempt for failing to cooperate with a committee subpoena if they also agreed to apply the same standards to congressional Republicans who, just last year, also failed to cooperate with a committee subpoena.

Any guesses what happened next?

"You can get my vote," Moskowitz said, "but I want you to show the American people that you're serious. ... Show that you're serious and that everyone is not above the law."

They refused.

Don't lecture about ethics when this republican-lead circus is full of hypocrites. They aren't serious about Hunter Biden,and they don't care what he did. This is simply to try to have an effect on the election. You know it, I know it....everyone knows it.

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Its crazy. Why won't the Reps question him out in the open? The GOP are the biggest bunch of *******.

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Honest question. Do some of you just refuse to listen? It's literally asked and answered, multiple times, on every single one of these threads.

Do you prefer your willful ignorance that much?

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What I don't get is why they are opposed to doing it in public. We expected full transparency with Trumps impeachment.

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Have you ever watched the kabuki theater that is a public hearing in the House? Five minutes per member to shoud and scream about whatever is their latest woke theme, du jour, no meaningful nor direct questioning, constant interruptions, etc.

Closed door depositions allow for more detailed questions with direct follow up questions to remove ambiguities. Further, Hunter and his lawyers would have the opportunity to conduct clean-up on the transcripts with the errata sheets.

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That makes sense, but the House Republicans adamantly called for no closed door depositions for the Trump impeachment. Gaetz was especially vocal about it.

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Yet more proof that there is not a single Democrat with a soul or shred of ethics.

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Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida offered to make a deal with his GOP colleagues: He'd vote with them to hold Biden in contempt for failing to cooperate with a committee subpoena if they also agreed to apply the same standards to congressional Republicans who, just last year, also failed to cooperate with a committee subpoena.

Any guesses what happened next?

"You can get my vote," Moskowitz said, "but I want you to show the American people that you're serious. ... Show that you're serious and that everyone is not above the law."

They refused.

Don't lecture about ethics when this republican-lead circus is full of hypocrites. They aren't serious about Hunter Biden,and they don't care what he did. This is simply to try to have an effect on the election. You know it, I know it....everyone knows it.

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This committee didn't subpoena those people, so this committee wouldn't vote to hold them in contempt, right?

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Yes, but I get it, they did subpoena others and held them in contempt (Meadows and Scavino) but the DOJ declined to prosecute. Though they did arrest some others. Biden needs to be held to the same standard.

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That makes sense, but the House Republicans adamantly called for no closed door depositions for the Trump impeachment. Gaetz was especially vocal about it.

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Impeachment inquiries are very very different. Rules on those were different. Republicans were not being allowed to pose questions in those porceedings because the Dems controlled the House Committee. No cross examination. Ultimately, that changed and Jordan was able to glean enough information to thrash the witnesses at the public hearing. (That's at the first impeachment. There were no hearings in the House for the second impeachment.)

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He thinks he is above the law for he wants to testify in the open after Congress told him it will be a closed testimony, which he did not like.

I guess he thinks he is running the show, like his father.

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What I don't get is why they are opposed to doing it in public. We expected full transparency with Trumps impeachment.

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The criminal doesn't get to dictate the terms, nor should he.

Trump's impeachment had to be in public because it was a political stunt. The democrats wanted the world to watch. Nothing about it was done properly according to precedent. It was a political hit job, as everything that has followed has been.

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What I don't get is why they are opposed to doing it in public. We expected full transparency with Trumps impeachment.

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Have you ever watched the kabuki theater that is a public hearing in the House? Five minutes per member to shoud and scream about whatever is their latest woke theme, du jour, no meaningful nor direct questioning, constant interruptions, etc.

Closed door depositions allow for more detailed questions with direct follow up questions to remove ambiguities. Further, Hunter and his lawyers would have the opportunity to conduct clean-up on the transcripts with the errata sheets.

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That makes sense, but the House Republicans adamantly called for no closed door depositions for the Trump impeachment. Gaetz was especially vocal about it.

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*face palm*

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He thinks he is above the law for he wants to testify in the open after Congress told him it will be a closed testimony, which he did not like.

I guess he thinks he is running the show, like his father.

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What I don't get is why they are opposed to doing it in public. We expected full transparency with Trumps impeachment.

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The criminal doesn't get to dictate the terms, nor should he.

Trump's impeachment had to be in public because it was a political stunt. The democrats wanted the world to watch. Nothing about it was done properly according to precedent. It was a political hit job, as everything that has followed has been.

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That's not what I was saying. The dems wanted to do the depositions in private. R's wanted full transparency, thus public. It was political for both sides.

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What I don't get is why they are opposed to doing it in public. We expected full transparency with Trumps impeachment.

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Have you ever watched the kabuki theater that is a public hearing in the House? Five minutes per member to shoud and scream about whatever is their latest woke theme, du jour, no meaningful nor direct questioning, constant interruptions, etc.

Closed door depositions allow for more detailed questions with direct follow up questions to remove ambiguities. Further, Hunter and his lawyers would have the opportunity to conduct clean-up on the transcripts with the errata sheets.

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That makes sense, but the House Republicans adamantly called for no closed door depositions for the Trump impeachment. Gaetz was especially vocal about it.

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*face palm*

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Am I wrong? If we're all for transparency from the Dems, why not be the example? Show me the difference between this impeachment process and Trumps? And don't fall back on the "but there's was all political, ours really has meat to it".