Epstein: 8 'John Does' Won't Be Named in Upcoming Evidence Release

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Sid Farkas said:

My take? The release and timing indicates 2024 election interference.

We're getting this list only because Trump is implicated. Trump will be falsely implicated with doctored evidence, by the same feds who championed the Russia collusion hoax and J6.

I'd be willing to lay money on it.


Sadly, I can see this being the case. They're throwing everything they can keep him from running.

But we all know had he been on this list it would've been leaked years ago. At this point they can say anything they want and they're stupid base. Will believe it. Look how excited they are at him being taken off a ballot which is completely immoral and illegal.
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annie88 said:

Ags77 said:

I have NO IDEA who is on this list , but would anyone be shocked if Trump is on it ? I wouldn't.

I wouldn't be shocked if some high profile Dems were on it either.


Actually, I would be surprised if Trump was on it. He cut ties with that guy over 30 years ago.

And do you think for one moment they wouldn't have released it years ago if he was on it? You can't be serious
He was known to party with Epstein on many occasions. They were pals. And he did ride on Lolita Express a number of times. If he's not on the list, then it is more likely because of the corruption of those making the list.
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Trump was a Democrat when he he was hanging with epstein....lol
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24601 said:

Ags77 said:

I have NO IDEA who is on this list , but would anyone be shocked if Trump is on it ? I wouldn't.

I wouldn't be shocked if some high profile Dems were on it either.


At this point, I would be ABSOLUTELY shocked. His name would have been released at least 2 years ago if there was ever any solid evidence rather than the speculation that we got that he maybe could have been on one of epsteins planes one time.
Trump's name has been released as riding on Lolita Express on several occasions. He also partied extensively with Epstein over the years and was widely quoted a couple of decades ago saying that Epstein was a great guy even if he did like them young.
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Don't forget that Trump was widely reported to have walked into the dressing rooms of Miss Teen USA contestants while they were dressing for the competition.

From https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-walks-in-miss-teen-usa-contestants-changing/ in 2016:
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At least four women who competed in a Miss Teen USA beauty pageant told BuzzFeed News that Donald Trump walked into their dressing room while the contestants as young as 15 were undressing.

Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA, tells Buzzfeed that the now 70-year-old Republican presidential candidate caused a panic in the dressing room of the 1997 pageant when he barged in unannounced as the young women were changing.

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The new accusations echo previous comments made by the business mogul during a 2005 interview with Howard Stern, in which Trump revealed he would go backstage while Miss Universe contestants were changing.

"Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that before a show, I'll go backstage and everyone's getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it," Trump said. "You know, I'm inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good."
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Interesting Eric,

Let's see what you've done here. You've got Trump tied up on both ends.

If he is on the list then he's bad man like the others. If he's not on the list, then the list is flawed.

So, by your own logic, the list is invalid for the others because it's not an honest list.

Also, let's talk about those flights. Flights on the plane and the island aren't the same, I'm not sure you care about the details, but you should.

We know he had about a 15-year relationship with Epstein, as did many others like Alan Dershowitz, etc. We know about Bill Clinton and Gates, Oprah and others. (Funny how the media didn't run multiple articles on them, but I digress).

The known flights for Trump were usually with family, friends and business associates and from New Jersey or DC and Palm Beach. Not Epstein island. They document most flights were from Palm Beach, where he and Epstein had homes.

  • Donald Trump flew 4 times on Epstein's plane in 1993, once in 1994, once in 1995 and once in 1997.

  • Flight logs show Trump, Epstein and Maxwell, among others, flew from Palm Beach in Florida to Teterboro in New Jersey on October 11,1993 and October 1993.

  • The former President then traveled on the Lotlita Express (they love to connect that name with Trump but not Gates or Clinton) with his ex-wife Marla Marples and his infant daughter Tiffany in 1994.

  • On August 13, 1995, he traveled with his son Eric alongside Epstein and Maxwell, written in the log as 'JE' and 'GM', from Palm Beach in Florida, to Teterboro Airport in New Jersey.

  • And on January 5, 1997, as was previously reported, Trump traveled with Epstein from Palm Beach to Newark.

Epstein and Trump's relationship soured when the he hit on a young girl at Mar-a-Lago, Trump's Palm Beach club, in the early 2000s, before he was convicted of soliciting child prostitution. But you seem to think Trump did abuse underage women on the Island he seemingly never visited while severing a relationship with him over the same matter. If you're claiming he abused underage women on the actual plane, that would've been highly unlikely with his family on board most of the time.

So yes, Trump travelled on planes with him and others, but appears to be nothing past that. And you are dreaming if you think the media wouldn't have proven this years ago.

Flight logs would've been uncovered by now and I would think the island itself would have records of who was there. Even the pilot during those times said he remembers Trump, but not many people associated with him. The could mean many things, but it's very basic.

If your next argument is well, he was on the plane several times, yes, but no proof of any wrong-doing and well in sight of others.

Now this is a tangent comment, but sometimes people do associate with people that go bad, this is one of them. Is/was Trump an angel, no, but there is no proof he every did anything like this. Clintons and Obamas associated heavily with and received huge donations with Harvey Weinstein, convicted multiple rapist and Ed Buck, killed two gay men among other crimes. Funny how this doesn't follow them.

If you want to see the actual flight logs, or at least the parts with his name and many others on the same flights, here you go.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10331943/Trump-flew-seven-times-Jeffrey-Epsteins-private-Lolita-Express-jet-flight-logs-reveal.html
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All names should be released. This is another case of the swamp controlling the message.
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Why would they hold back any names, if they have nothing to hide, release all of them....

BS.....
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Ags77 said:

I have NO IDEA who is on this list , but would anyone be shocked if Trump is on it ? I wouldn't.



I would.

Not because he's a saint or anything but because I have a brain and it tells me if Trump had Epstein's dirt on him we would have known years and years ago.

AKA common sense.
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Sounds like some folks checks got cashed just in time.
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Ignore list. Use it. You spent A LOT of time typing that up for a poster without an honest bone in his body. Complete waste of bandwidth.
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John Does.

Rigggghhht.
Trump will fix it.
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PA24 said:

No justice



"No Peace Say His Name"
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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

Ignore list. Use it. You spent A LOT of time typing that up for a poster without an honest bone in his body. Complete waste of bandwidth.


Actually, I'm a pretty fast typer, about 95 words per minute last I checked/cut and paster. It only took me about 9 minutes. But OK.
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Doubt any list is released. If a lost is released, it probably won't have anyone interesting on it, except maybe Trump.
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annie88 said:

Interesting Eric,

Let's see what you've done here. You've got Trump tied up on both ends.

If he is on the list then he's bad man like the others. If he's not on the list, then the list is flawed.

So, by your own logic, the list is invalid for the others because it's not an honest list.

Also, let's talk about those flights. Flights on the plane and the island aren't the same, I'm not sure you care about the details, but you should.

We know he had about a 15-year relationship with Epstein, as did many others like Alan Dershowitz, etc. We know about Bill Clinton and Gates, Oprah and others. (Funny how the media didn't run multiple articles on them, but I digress).

The known flights for Trump were usually with family, friends and business associates and from New Jersey or DC and Pam Beach. Not Epstein island. They document most flights were from Palm Beach, where he and Epstein had homes.

  • Donald Trump flew 4 times on Epstein's plane in 1993, once in 1994, once in 1995 and once in 1997.

  • Flight logs show Trump, Epstein and Maxwell, among others, flew from Palm Beach in Florida to Teterboro in New Jersey on October 11,1993 and October 1993.

  • The former President then traveled on the Lotlita Express (they love to connect that name with Trump but not Gates or Clinton) with his ex-wife Marla Marples and his infant daughter Tiffany in 1994.

  • On August 13, 1995, he traveled with his son Eric alongside Epstein and Maxwell, written in the log as 'JE' and 'GM', from Palm Beach in Florida, to Teterboro Airport in New Jersey.

  • And on January 5, 1997, as was previously reported, Trump traveled with Epstein from Palm Beach to Newark.

Epstein and Trump's relationship soured when the he hit on a young girl at Mar-a-Lago, Trump's Palm Beach club, in the early 2000s, before he was convicted of soliciting child prostitution. But you seem to think Trump did abuse underage women on the Island he seemingly never visited while severing a relationship with him over the same matter. If you're claiming he abused underage women on the actual plane, that would've been highly unlikely with his family on board most of the time.

So yes, Trump travelled on planes with him and others, but papers to be nothing past that. And you are dreaming if you think the media wouldn't have proven this years ago.

Flight logs would've been uncovered by now and I would think the island itself would have records of who was there.Even the pilot during those times said he remembers Trump, but not many people associated with him. The could mean many things, but it's very basic.

If your next argument is well, he was on the plane several times, yes, but no proof of any wrong-doing and well in sight of others,

Now this is a tangent comment, but sometimes people do associate with people that go bad, this is one of them. Is/was Trump an angel, no, but there is no proof he every did anything like this. Clintons and Obamas associated heavily with and received huge donations with Harvey Weinstein, convicted multiple rapist and Ed Buck, killed two gay men among other crimes. Funny how this doesn't follow them.

If you want to see the actual flight logs, or at least the parts with his name and many others on the same flights, here you go.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10331943/Trump-flew-seven-times-Jeffrey-Epsteins-private-Lolita-Express-jet-flight-logs-reveal.html
Thank you for posting. This was a complete evisceration of the crap spewed. James Clapper would call this the "head shot".
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You post this Trump-Epstein fan fiction a lot on threads like this, then someone comes around and utterly eviscerates your implications of said fan fiction with facts.

Honest question: Why do you keep posting this drivel that is so easily and thoroughly debunked? I mean, it's utter fantasy this projecting you are doing.

Do you dispute the facts and rely on your truth?

Do you forget such threads?

Do you not care and continue to post (i.e. trolling)?

Are you a bot?

Honest answers will be appreciated.
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****ing brutal takedown Annie!! That was hawg-esque in its precision and presentation.

10/10
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The Bill Clinton answer to how many times have you been on Jeffrey Epstein's plane reminds me so much of the scene in Austin Powers when he comes out of the cryogenic chamber and they give him back his Swedish ***** Enlarger. Clinton says he can't recall ever being on the plane. Yet the flight logs show he was on it 26 times…

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annie88 said:

Interesting Eric,

Let's see what you've done here. You've got Trump tied up on both ends.

If he is on the list then he's bad man like the others. If he's not on the list, then the list is flawed.

So, by your own logic, the list is invalid for the others because it's not an honest list.

Also, let's talk about those flights. Flights on the plane and the island aren't the same, I'm not sure you care about the details, but you should.

We know he had about a 15-year relationship with Epstein, as did many others like Alan Dershowitz, etc. We know about Bill Clinton and Gates, Oprah and others. (Funny how the media didn't run multiple articles on them, but I digress).

The known flights for Trump were usually with family, friends and business associates and from New Jersey or DC and Palm Beach. Not Epstein island. They document most flights were from Palm Beach, where he and Epstein had homes.

  • Donald Trump flew 4 times on Epstein's plane in 1993, once in 1994, once in 1995 and once in 1997.

  • Flight logs show Trump, Epstein and Maxwell, among others, flew from Palm Beach in Florida to Teterboro in New Jersey on October 11,1993 and October 1993.

  • The former President then traveled on the Lotlita Express (they love to connect that name with Trump but not Gates or Clinton) with his ex-wife Marla Marples and his infant daughter Tiffany in 1994.

  • On August 13, 1995, he traveled with his son Eric alongside Epstein and Maxwell, written in the log as 'JE' and 'GM', from Palm Beach in Florida, to Teterboro Airport in New Jersey.

  • And on January 5, 1997, as was previously reported, Trump traveled with Epstein from Palm Beach to Newark.

Epstein and Trump's relationship soured when the he hit on a young girl at Mar-a-Lago, Trump's Palm Beach club, in the early 2000s, before he was convicted of soliciting child prostitution. But you seem to think Trump did abuse underage women on the Island he seemingly never visited while severing a relationship with him over the same matter. If you're claiming he abused underage women on the actual plane, that would've been highly unlikely with his family on board most of the time.

So yes, Trump travelled on planes with him and others, but appears to be nothing past that. And you are dreaming if you think the media wouldn't have proven this years ago.

Flight logs would've been uncovered by now and I would think the island itself would have records of who was there. Even the pilot during those times said he remembers Trump, but not many people associated with him. The could mean many things, but it's very basic.

If your next argument is well, he was on the plane several times, yes, but no proof of any wrong-doing and well in sight of others.

Now this is a tangent comment, but sometimes people do associate with people that go bad, this is one of them. Is/was Trump an angel, no, but there is no proof he every did anything like this. Clintons and Obamas associated heavily with and received huge donations with Harvey Weinstein, convicted multiple rapist and Ed Buck, killed two gay men among other crimes. Funny how this doesn't follow them.

If you want to see the actual flight logs, or at least the parts with his name and many others on the same flights, here you go.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10331943/Trump-flew-seven-times-Jeffrey-Epsteins-private-Lolita-Express-jet-flight-logs-reveal.html

Brutal response. Well done.
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annie88 said:

Interesting Eric,

Let's see what you've done here. You've got Trump tied up on both ends.

If he is on the list then he's bad man like the others. If he's not on the list, then the list is flawed.

So, by your own logic, the list is invalid for the others because it's not an honest list.

Also, let's talk about those flights. Flights on the plane and the island aren't the same, I'm not sure you care about the details, but you should.

We know he had about a 15-year relationship with Epstein, as did many others like Alan Dershowitz, etc. We know about Bill Clinton and Gates, Oprah and others. (Funny how the media didn't run multiple articles on them, but I digress).

The known flights for Trump were usually with family, friends and business associates and from New Jersey or DC and Palm Beach. Not Epstein island. They document most flights were from Palm Beach, where he and Epstein had homes.

  • Donald Trump flew 4 times on Epstein's plane in 1993, once in 1994, once in 1995 and once in 1997.

  • Flight logs show Trump, Epstein and Maxwell, among others, flew from Palm Beach in Florida to Teterboro in New Jersey on October 11,1993 and October 1993.

  • The former President then traveled on the Lotlita Express (they love to connect that name with Trump but not Gates or Clinton) with his ex-wife Marla Marples and his infant daughter Tiffany in 1994.

  • On August 13, 1995, he traveled with his son Eric alongside Epstein and Maxwell, written in the log as 'JE' and 'GM', from Palm Beach in Florida, to Teterboro Airport in New Jersey.

  • And on January 5, 1997, as was previously reported, Trump traveled with Epstein from Palm Beach to Newark.

Epstein and Trump's relationship soured when the he hit on a young girl at Mar-a-Lago, Trump's Palm Beach club, in the early 2000s, before he was convicted of soliciting child prostitution. But you seem to think Trump did abuse underage women on the Island he seemingly never visited while severing a relationship with him over the same matter. If you're claiming he abused underage women on the actual plane, that would've been highly unlikely with his family on board most of the time.

So yes, Trump travelled on planes with him and others, but appears to be nothing past that. And you are dreaming if you think the media wouldn't have proven this years ago.

Flight logs would've been uncovered by now and I would think the island itself would have records of who was there. Even the pilot during those times said he remembers Trump, but not many people associated with him. The could mean many things, but it's very basic.

If your next argument is well, he was on the plane several times, yes, but no proof of any wrong-doing and well in sight of others.

Now this is a tangent comment, but sometimes people do associate with people that go bad, this is one of them. Is/was Trump an angel, no, but there is no proof he every did anything like this. Clintons and Obamas associated heavily with and received huge donations with Harvey Weinstein, convicted multiple rapist and Ed Buck, killed two gay men among other crimes. Funny how this doesn't follow them.

If you want to see the actual flight logs, or at least the parts with his name and many others on the same flights, here you go.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10331943/Trump-flew-seven-times-Jeffrey-Epsteins-private-Lolita-Express-jet-flight-logs-reveal.html


I'm pretty sure Trump was under the false impression that Epstein was an investment manager and either Epstein was at least knowledgable enough to talk a good game (he had millions that he was managing, but he got those through blackmail and other similar means) or Trump wasn't as sophisticated in investment circles outside of real estate enough to know the difference. Whatever the rub was, it is clear that Trump wasn't doing much, if anything, with Epstein past the mid-90s and nothing after he got wind of what Epstein was actually doing.
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It sure is interesting to see a certain poster posting in numerous other threads, but yet somehow, very conveniently, avoiding the posts in here that destroy his (zhe's?) drive by TDS posts.
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If the theory is true that Epstein was blackmailing everyone, then he would have every interest in the world get people to fly to his Island and try to get them to engage with young girls. Even if they flew there and then refused, he still would have some blackmailing material.

So, that sorta gives some people an out. That if they weren't on tape doing anything, then they might have SOME plausible deniability. Clinton does not, as there are pictures of him with young women already.
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And TDS Eric gets blown out of the water AGAIN. This never gets old.
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Ag87H2O said:

C@LAg said:

here's six:

Joe Biden
Hunter Biden
Bill Clinton
Dirk Durbin
Barack Obama
James Carville


Scratch Durbin or Carville and replace it with Chief Justice John Roberts
Except Roberts wasn't on Epstein's plane, at least from the previously released flight logs, but there was a John Roberts who was.

The Supreme Court released the documents showing where Chief John Roberts was, and there are witnesses who verified it. He was at public events so he was not on the plane based on all of the publicly released information.

Same thing with Trump. He did fly on the plane according to all publicly released information, but only between Florida and NYC, which amounts to nothing whatsoever other than one rich dude flew on another rich dude's plane, which is very common.
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annie88 said:

Interesting Eric,

Let's see what you've done here. You've got Trump tied up on both ends.

If he is on the list then he's bad man like the others. If he's not on the list, then the list is flawed.

So, by your own logic, the list is invalid for the others because it's not an honest list.

Also, let's talk about those flights. Flights on the plane and the island aren't the same, I'm not sure you care about the details, but you should.


Trump was clearly a passenger on Lolita Express on several occasions. I have never claimed that he went to the island on it.
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We know he had about a 15-year relationship with Epstein, as did many others like Alan Dershowitz, etc. We know about Bill Clinton and Gates, Oprah and others. (Funny how the media didn't run multiple articles on them, but I digress).

The known flights for Trump were usually with family, friends and business associates and from New Jersey or DC and Palm Beach. Not Epstein island. They document most flights were from Palm Beach, where he and Epstein had homes.


Once again, I have never claimed that Trump flew to the island on Lolita Express.
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  • Donald Trump flew 4 times on Epstein's plane in 1993, once in 1994, once in 1995 and once in 1997.

  • Flight logs show Trump, Epstein and Maxwell, among others, flew from Palm Beach in Florida to Teterboro in New Jersey on October 11,1993 and October 1993.

  • The former President then traveled on the Lotlita Express (they love to connect that name with Trump but not Gates or Clinton) with his ex-wife Marla Marples and his infant daughter Tiffany in 1994.

  • On August 13, 1995, he traveled with his son Eric alongside Epstein and Maxwell, written in the log as 'JE' and 'GM', from Palm Beach in Florida, to Teterboro Airport in New Jersey.

  • And on January 5, 1997, as was previously reported, Trump traveled with Epstein from Palm Beach to Newark.

Epstein and Trump's relationship soured when the he hit on a young girl at Mar-a-Lago, Trump's Palm Beach club, in the early 2000s, before he was convicted of soliciting child prostitution. But you seem to think Trump did abuse underage women on the Island he seemingly never visited while severing a relationship with him over the same matter. If you're claiming he abused underage women on the actual plane, that would've been highly unlikely with his family on board most of the time.

So yes, Trump travelled on planes with him and others, but appears to be nothing past that. And you are dreaming if you think the media wouldn't have proven this years ago.

Flight logs would've been uncovered by now and I would think the island itself would have records of who was there. Even the pilot during those times said he remembers Trump, but not many people associated with him. The could mean many things, but it's very basic.

If your next argument is well, he was on the plane several times, yes, but no proof of any wrong-doing and well in sight of others.


One more time. I never claimed that Trump went to the island on Lolita Express.
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Now this is a tangent comment, but sometimes people do associate with people that go bad, this is one of them. Is/was Trump an angel, no, but there is no proof he every did anything like this. Clintons and Obamas associated heavily with and received huge donations with Harvey Weinstein, convicted multiple rapist and Ed Buck, killed two gay men among other crimes. Funny how this doesn't follow them.

If you want to see the actual flight logs, or at least the parts with his name and many others on the same flights, here you go.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10331943/Trump-flew-seven-times-Jeffrey-Epsteins-private-Lolita-Express-jet-flight-logs-reveal.html



Should we say it again? Trump flew on Lolita Express. I have never claimed that he flew out to the island on it or on anything else. He might have. He might not have. I don' tknow and I'm not reading into it more than was there.
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Rockdoc said:

And TDS Eric gets blown out of the water AGAIN. This never gets old.
Claiming that I said things that I never said does not constitute "blown out of the water".

Trump flew on Lolita Express. He does not appear to have flown out to the island on it.

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eric76 said:

Rockdoc said:

And TDS Eric gets blown out of the water AGAIN. This never gets old.
Claiming that I said things that I never said does not constitute "blown out of the water".

Trump flew on Lolita Express. He does not appear to have flown out to the island on it.


AND THEREFORE there is zero evidence that he took part in any of the kid diddling that Epstein is famous for. Which makes your entire point meaningless.

Are you going to admit that part?
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eric76 said:

Rockdoc said:

And TDS Eric gets blown out of the water AGAIN. This never gets old.
Claiming that I said things that I never said does not constitute "blown out of the water".

Trump flew on Lolita Express. He does not appear to have flown out to the island on it.


Insisting it was the Lolita Express as you are doing is akin to insisting the Boeing used by the President is always called Air Force One.
Trump will fix it.
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eric76 said:

Rockdoc said:

And TDS Eric gets blown out of the water AGAIN. This never gets old.
Claiming that I said things that I never said does not constitute "blown out of the water".

Trump flew on Lolita Express. He does not appear to have flown out to the island on it.



Sorry you "don't got him" again. But the affliction you have won't allow you to stop trying. Maybe get a hobby.
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aTmAg said:

eric76 said:

Rockdoc said:

And TDS Eric gets blown out of the water AGAIN. This never gets old.
Claiming that I said things that I never said does not constitute "blown out of the water".

Trump flew on Lolita Express. He does not appear to have flown out to the island on it.


AND THEREFORE there is zero evidence that he took part in any of the kid diddling that Epstein is famous for. Which makes your entire point meaningless.

Are you going to admit that part?
I do not know if he did or not. Neither do you.
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techno-ag said:

eric76 said:

Rockdoc said:

And TDS Eric gets blown out of the water AGAIN. This never gets old.
Claiming that I said things that I never said does not constitute "blown out of the water".

Trump flew on Lolita Express. He does not appear to have flown out to the island on it.


Insisting it was the Lolita Express as you are doing is akin to insisting the Boeing used by the President is always called Air Force One.
Lolita Express was the airplane, not the flight to the island.
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aTmAg said:

eric76 said:

Rockdoc said:

And TDS Eric gets blown out of the water AGAIN. This never gets old.
Claiming that I said things that I never said does not constitute "blown out of the water".

Trump flew on Lolita Express. He does not appear to have flown out to the island on it.


AND THEREFORE there is zero evidence that he took part in any of the kid diddling that Epstein is famous for. Which makes your entire point meaningless.

Are you going to admit that part?

Of course not. Leftists never admit being wrong or wrong doing. It's one of their tenants.
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Normally, you at least have a reasonable retort, but this time you're just completely and pathetically doubling down.
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