BigRobSA said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Txhuntr said:

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The problem is the other 46% are Uber pissed about it, and will be out for blood. Trump has created a large base of "conservatives" that act like democrats.

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In what ways are "conservatives " acting like Democrats?

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Attacking actual conservatives from the left. Promoting idiotic, liberal ideas just because Trump says it...stuff that Obama wishes he thought of.

Not sure how anyone that considers themselves even remotely conservative could vote for the NE lib named Trump .

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Not sure how anyone remotely conservative would vote against Trump in the general.

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Same reason to not vote for Biden: someone isn't a liberal , like they both are.

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Sitting out or voting third party thereby allowing Biden to cruise to a victory will result in hundreds of liberal cabinet appointments, liberal federal judges, and a potentially multiple liberal SCOTUS picks. The moment SCOTUS leans left again they will be flooded with lawsuits the likes of which we've never seen before, that will go to the liberals by default, and this country is officially done and everyone you know is destined to live under an authoritarian dictatorship in abject poverty.

I don't see how anyone that despises liberalism can sit back and let that happen just because they don't ideologically align 100% with the Republican nominated in the general. Primaries are where you make your ideological stand (who "earned" your vote) and you vote to keep the commies out in the general. It's sad, that's what our elections have devolved into, but when you have a force as evil as the Democrat party and the people that fund them, then you might have to make decisions you don't like for self preservation.

Republicans just have to suck less than Democrats right now and that has led to gross incompetence, which we desperately need to correct in the primary season. I'm not sure how to do, that but letting Democrats win in the interim is not it. They will continue to flood the country with illegals, give them amnesty (once Texas is blue we're done), change voting laws to allow easy cheating, and make PR and DC states. That will make it so that Republicans won't have a chance to correct course and Democrats will effectively have the senate, house, presidency and SCOTUS and will do whatever it takes to never give them up and nobody will be able to stop them. I don't know about you, but I don't want to live under one party communist rule.

aggieforester05 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Txhuntr said:

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The problem is the other 46% are Uber pissed about it, and will be out for blood. Trump has created a large base of "conservatives" that act like democrats.

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In what ways are "conservatives " acting like Democrats?

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Attacking actual conservatives from the left. Promoting idiotic, liberal ideas just because Trump says it...stuff that Obama wishes he thought of.

Not sure how anyone that considers themselves even remotely conservative could vote for the NE lib named Trump .

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Not sure how anyone remotely conservative would vote against Trump in the general.

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Same reason to not vote for Biden: someone isn't a liberal , like they both are.

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Sitting out or voting third party thereby allowing Biden to cruise to a victory will result in hundreds of liberal cabinet appointments, liberal federal judges, and a potentially multiple liberal SCOTUS picks. The moment SCOTUS leans left again they will be flooded with lawsuits the likes of which we've never seen before, that will go to the liberals by default, and this country is officially done and everyone you know is destined to live under an authoritarian dictatorship in abject poverty.

I don't see how anyone that despises liberalism can sit back and let that happen just because they don't ideologically align 100% with the Republican nominated in the general. Primaries are where you make your ideological stand (who "earned" your vote) and you vote to keep the commies out in the general. It's sad, that's what our elections have devolved into, but when you have a force as evil as the Democrat party and the people that fund them, then you might have to make decisions you don't like for self preservation.

Republicans just have to suck less than Democrats right now and that has led to gross incompetence, which we desperately need to correct in the primary season. I'm not sure how to do, that but letting Democrats win in the interim is not it. They will continue to flood the country with illegals, give them amnesty (once Texas is blue we're done), change voting laws to allow easy cheating, and make PR and DC states. That will make it so that Republicans won't have a chance to correct course and Democrats will effectively have the senate, house, presidency and SCOTUS and will do whatever it takes to never give them up and nobody will be able to stop them. I don't know about you, but I don't want to live under one party communist rule.

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POTY stuff right there. Very well stated.

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.....we choose a successful conservative candidate with an IQ above his shoe size and a vocabulary better than a slow 3rd grader. That eliminates Trump and Haley.

We keep choosing more and more liberal candidates as the supposed conservative party. Mind-numbingly ****ing stupid.

Hard right candidates can't win presidential elections. You always forget that.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Hard right candidates can't win presidential elections. You always forget that.

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That "hard right" candidate flipped Miam Dade. Swing voters clearly want common sense conservatives without the circus of Trump.

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Hard right candidates can't win presidential elections. You always forget that.

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That "hard right" candidate flipped Miam Dade. Swing voters clearly want common sense conservatives without the circus of Trump.

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Clearly you can't read.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Hard right candidates can't win presidential elections. You always forget that.

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That "hard right" candidate flipped Miam Dade. Swing voters clearly want common sense conservatives without the circus of Trump.

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Clearly you can't read.

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Clearly you can't refute the point so you don't even try. Miami, a purple or even light blue area very reflective of the states we need to flip back, had no problem electing a "hard right" candidate. Neither did Georgia or Virginia.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Hard right candidates can't win presidential elections. You always forget that.

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I Don't agree. Especially since we haven't even tried.

Definitely not a reason to run liberals like Trump or Haley.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Hard right candidates can't win presidential elections. You always forget that.

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That "hard right" candidate flipped Miam Dade. Swing voters clearly want common sense conservatives without the circus of Trump.

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Clearly you can't read.

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Clearly you can't refute the point so you don't even try. Miami, a purple or even light blue area very reflective of the states we need to flip back, had no problem electing a "hard right" candidate. Neither did Georgia or Virginia.

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So you want me to refute the point you made, that had no relevance to what I originally stated? I clearly stated PRESIDENTIAL elections and you bring in STATE politics. Act like you understand the difference.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Hard right candidates can't win presidential elections. You always forget that.

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That "hard right" candidate flipped Miam Dade. Swing voters clearly want common sense conservatives without the circus of Trump.

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Clearly you can't read.

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Clearly you can't refute the point so you don't even try. Miami, a purple or even light blue area very reflective of the states we need to flip back, had no problem electing a "hard right" candidate. Neither did Georgia or Virginia.

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So you want me to refute the point you made, that had no relevance to what I originally stated? I clearly stated PRESIDENTIAL elections and you bring in STATE politics. Act like you understand the difference.

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Ah yes, we're going with there being zero correlation between elections at different levels. I guess DeSantis, Haley, Youngkin, Kemp etc. can't win the presidential election because they've never won a presidential election. Great point.

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americans may not be that fond of biden, and polling reflects that right now, but when push comes to shove most will probably show up and pull the lever for him if it means keeping trump out of the white house

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You sure about that? Folks are starting to look at their finances and are disagreeing with you, as much as you hate to hear it.

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My finances are pretty good right now. Who is failing in this economy?

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The entire middle class that can no longer afford to buy a home for starters thus causing them to pay more in rent and also harming middle class real estate agents suffering through the worst time for anyone to buy a home since 1981. I could go on and on about many other facets of life but housing seems to be the most important.

75% of homes currently on the market are out of reach for those in the middle class, according to the National Association of Realtors.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) December 21, 2023

Middle-class households are being priced out of the housing market amid high mortgage rates and spiking prices, making it increasingly difficult for them to build wealth, per Newsweek.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) December 21, 2023

In 2023, homebuying became the least affordable in at least the past 11 years, according to a report by real estate company Redfin.

Read more: https://t.co/mXqJXBAMG8

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) December 20, 2023

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Dang! Home values are also up?

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Irrelevant.

If you have a home either paid for or a large % of the mortgage paid off and want to move to another home you will be paying a lot more for that home. Exceptions would include moving from an area where home prices have been extremely high to another area where home prices are more moderate, like for California to Texas.

Basically your statement is not germane the the conversation.

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.....we choose a successful conservative candidate with an IQ above his shoe size and a vocabulary better than a slow 3rd grader. That eliminates Trump and Haley.

We keep choosing more and more liberal candidates as the supposed conservative party. Mind-numbingly ****ing stupid.

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Yes, we do that in the primary. When that candidate doesn't win the primary then we swallow our pride and do what it takes to keep the Democrat from winning. Next time we learn from our mistakes and make adjustments to try to win the primary again. If the Democrat wins the general, that next time might not come or it'll be purely ceremonial because the Democrats will have rigged the elections to ensure a general win everytime.

You really got him this time!!

Probably somewhere in the thread but what percentage of Republicans are glad he's off the ballot

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.....we choose a successful conservative candidate with an IQ above his shoe size and a vocabulary better than a slow 3rd grader. That eliminates Trump and Haley.

We keep choosing more and more liberal candidates as the supposed conservative party. Mind-numbingly ****ing stupid.

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Not the question at hand. Your response fits in questions about the primary. In the general election I will be voting Republican.

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BigRobSA said:

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.....we choose a successful conservative candidate with an IQ above his shoe size and a vocabulary better than a slow 3rd grader. That eliminates Trump and Haley.

We keep choosing more and more liberal candidates as the supposed conservative party. Mind-numbingly ****ing stupid.

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Not the question at hand. Your response fits in questions about the primary. In the general election I will be voting Republican.

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We haven't had the primary yet. So....

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Anyone defending this economy is an idiot.

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Or.... They have retirement accounts

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Anyone judging the economy solely by their retirement account is an idiot too.

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Trump often bragged about the stock market prices.(well before they crashed under his administration) Now it's not important?

If he had a 46% approval rating, that would be 10% higher than Biden.

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...now, hear me out....



.....we choose a successful conservative candidate with an IQ above his shoe size and a vocabulary better than a slow 3rd grader. That eliminates Trump and Haley.

We keep choosing more and more liberal candidates as the supposed conservative party. Mind-numbingly ****ing stupid.

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No offense, but DJT has done more in 1 year of his life than you've accomplished in real-estate over the entirety of your career. (See 2015-16)

I'm certainly not his biggest fan, but I tend to think harsh critics who move towards ad hominems are really just goofy narcissists.

If you're going to ad hom someone, maybe do it to a target that can't literally crush your entire life with a few phone calls lol?

The choice is pretty simple at this point. Vote R, or vote for a party that wants to destroy & control your life.

2040huck said:

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2040huck said:

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Anyone defending this economy is an idiot.

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Or.... They have retirement accounts

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Anyone judging the economy solely by their retirement account is an idiot too.

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Trump often bragged about the stock market prices.(well before they crashed under his administration) Now it's not important?

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Another one that can't read.

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BigRobSA said:

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...now, hear me out....



.....we choose a successful conservative candidate with an IQ above his shoe size and a vocabulary better than a slow 3rd grader. That eliminates Trump and Haley.

We keep choosing more and more liberal candidates as the supposed conservative party. Mind-numbingly ****ing stupid.

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No offense, but DJT has done more in 1 year of his life than you've accomplished in real-estate over the entirety of your career. (See 2015-16)

I'm certainly not his biggest fan, but I tend to think harsh critics who move towards ad hominems are really just goofy narcissists.

If you're going to ad hom someone, maybe do it to a target that can't literally crush your entire life with a few phone calls lol?

The choice is pretty simple at this point. Vote R, or vote for a party that wants to destroy & control your life.

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I'll vote R if we select the best, conservative choice we've had in my lifetime (including Reagan). If not, then I'll vote for a conservative 3rd party candidate or write-in a conservatives name.


I'm not a liberal, so why would I vote for even a liberal R?

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And now Desantis supporters too.

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A big chunk of desantites voted for Biden so the logic follows

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Well, your logic is a non starter, given the stupidity of this post. I am a huge DeSantis Backer and like most of us utterly despise Biden. My problem with Trump is he has become to cozy with Democrats with kind words regarding Newsome and Hilldawg.

BigRobSA said:

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Pizza said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Or...




....or.....




...now, hear me out....



.....we choose a successful conservative candidate with an IQ above his shoe size and a vocabulary better than a slow 3rd grader. That eliminates Trump and Haley.

We keep choosing more and more liberal candidates as the supposed conservative party. Mind-numbingly ****ing stupid.

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No offense, but DJT has done more in 1 year of his life than you've accomplished in real-estate over the entirety of your career. (See 2015-16)

I'm certainly not his biggest fan, but I tend to think harsh critics who move towards ad hominems are really just goofy narcissists.

If you're going to ad hom someone, maybe do it to a target that can't literally crush your entire life with a few phone calls lol?

The choice is pretty simple at this point. Vote R, or vote for a party that wants to destroy & control your life.

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I'll vote R if we select the best, conservative choice we've had in my lifetime (including Reagan). If not, then I'll vote for a conservative 3rd party candidate or write-in a conservatives name.


I'm not a liberal, so why would I vote for even a liberal R?

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You'll vote R, or you'll vote for stupid.

That's the end of the argument in 2023.

Pizza said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Pizza said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Or...




....or.....




...now, hear me out....



.....we choose a successful conservative candidate with an IQ above his shoe size and a vocabulary better than a slow 3rd grader. That eliminates Trump and Haley.

We keep choosing more and more liberal candidates as the supposed conservative party. Mind-numbingly ****ing stupid.

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No offense, but DJT has done more in 1 year of his life than you've accomplished in real-estate over the entirety of your career. (See 2015-16)

I'm certainly not his biggest fan, but I tend to think harsh critics who move towards ad hominems are really just goofy narcissists.

If you're going to ad hom someone, maybe do it to a target that can't literally crush your entire life with a few phone calls lol?

The choice is pretty simple at this point. Vote R, or vote for a party that wants to destroy & control your life.

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I'll vote R if we select the best, conservative choice we've had in my lifetime (including Reagan). If not, then I'll vote for a conservative 3rd party candidate or write-in a conservatives name.


I'm not a liberal, so why would I vote for even a liberal R?

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You'll vote R, or you'll vote for stupid.

That's the end of the argument in 2023.

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What is genuinely stupid is to vote for any candidate other than the candidate of your choice.