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aggiehawg said:

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Thoughts?

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Texas and California would never be united to attack Washington DC.

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Cali is allot like Texas with even more people. Large MSA's that are leftist/democrat, with agriculture & decent people outside of those areas.

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And it is over 3 hours longs.

Somehow I suspect the bad guy will be a "right wing fascist" and probably doing every single thing the left has thought Reagan, Bush, Bush, and Trump were all going to do, but never actually did.

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i could not agree more.

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Cali is allot like Texas with even more people. Large MSA's that are leftist/democrat, with agriculture & decent people outside of those areas.

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And they want their own state.

Looks like a great movie!

The same person that did Ex Machina, which is so good!

...the tree being watered

"Civil War"

Why make this film? What is the story about? What is the underlying theme? Who are the "sides"?

A rough analysis of the recently released trailer.

What do you think? https://t.co/sSCKvCUG7s pic.twitter.com/sNYb65IRBP

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) December 13, 2023

Nailed It

No HOGs, here. Another great frame analysis from @_HARVEY__DENT_:

At quick glance, I thought the sniper was a 2024 iteration of bleached-hair Asian sensation, Sang, from Jackie Chan's Rush Hour.. but it turns out they/them is a transmogrified hair-died nail painted… https://t.co/mE04JLSn4E pic.twitter.com/qrxRHvejVO

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) December 13, 2023

Good thread on analysis of the trailer.

This movie could go very badly in either direction. Sometimes you should consider whether it is a good idea to make a movie, this is one of those times.

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Good thread on analysis of the trailer.

This movie could go very badly in either direction. Sometimes you should consider whether it is a good idea to make a movie, this is one of those times.

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Crap! The good guys lose?

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Yep definitely SciFi....LOL, California and Texas on the same side.

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Might make sense if they each want to be their own country and ally just to have enough strength to take on the remaining states in the union.

Looks like the sequel to......

the first 30 seconds of all the cars gutted on the highway is a movie.

and this is what it looked like in Israel after Hamas launched their invasion

that's freaky.

that actually looks like a really good movie

amazing how so many of us have been discussing this exact concept for 3 years now

this movie will help the democrats beat Trump even harder.

because the leftists will be spending 24 hours a day for 10 months reminding the population about what a threat to the Republic Trump is.

Have no doubt that Garland is a progressive, but given his body of work I suspect it's going to be hard to place the sides of the civil war in easy categories and consider one side the good guys and one side the bad.

His stuff is kind of in the gray area between sci/fi, psychological thriller and horror. Typically takes on some really tough gray area issues like Robot/AI in Ex Machina and Tech Power in the FX show Devs, biowarfare in 28 Days.

I'm actually really intrigued by how this story plays out. My guess would be that the story is inspired by there being elements of both the left and right extremes of American politics and really Western politics in general(garland is English) talking about civil wars because of growing ideological divides. That the ideological middle will get pulled into and forced to pick sides as is always the case in civil wars. Essentially the story coming down to a warning that nobody wins if we go this direction, we all begin to dehumanize each other and it spins out of control until we all start killing each other and even not trusting whose side your on. That's the vibe I got in one of the key moments of the Trailer with Jesse Plemons character.(looks like he's lost a ton of weight as an aside).


But who knows. Maybe Ron Swanson is playing a Trump like dictator archetype and this is a complete hit job on MAGA. That's certainly possible. Hollywood absolutely has lots of anti-maga stuff loaded in the pipeline. I would consider Garland a sell out if that's the case. His career has been much more nuanced than that up to this point.

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Hard to tell but I'm going to bet the ones who seceded were because of a Trump like president who was dictatorial

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What do you call a phallic shaped French Fry?

I'm sure the godless white liberal freaks making this movie will make patriots who love America and it's founding principles look good.

So will this be a not so subliminal message as to what could happen if we elect Trump, or if he runs and loses?

I don't trust Hollywood at all.

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C@LAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Texas and California would never be united to attack Washington DC.

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Cali is allot like Texas with even more people. Large MSA's that are leftist/democrat, with agriculture & decent people outside of those areas.

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There are even some coastal pockets that have an openly right wing contingent that aren't afraid to express themselves. Last few times I have visited Huntington Beach, I have witnessed a lot of FJB and other patriotic swag. One biker dude backed his Harley in on Main Street and was wearing a "F*** Liberals" shirt and actually got applause from many of the people passing by.

2024 is going to be fun!! Get ready.

You can figure out the people behind it by how the media reacts. If they start promoting it, whether good or bad, but at least discussing it on MSM, then definitely financed by Soros/China or Russia. If they don't, like 2000 Mules or Sound of Freedom, then not.

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Cali is allot like Texas with even more people. Large MSA's that are leftist/democrat, with agriculture & decent people outside of those areas.

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And they want their own state.

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Lots of great people outside of LA & SF that share conservative values. The same thing can be said in New York, Illinois, etc. Big Cities are liberal cesspools.

Nanomachines son said:

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"Civil War"

Why make this film? What is the story about? What is the underlying theme? Who are the "sides"?

A rough analysis of the recently released trailer.

What do you think? https://t.co/sSCKvCUG7s pic.twitter.com/sNYb65IRBP

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) December 13, 2023

Nailed It

No HOGs, here. Another great frame analysis from @_HARVEY__DENT_:

At quick glance, I thought the sniper was a 2024 iteration of bleached-hair Asian sensation, Sang, from Jackie Chan's Rush Hour.. but it turns out they/them is a transmogrified hair-died nail painted… https://t.co/mE04JLSn4E pic.twitter.com/qrxRHvejVO

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) December 13, 2023

Good thread on analysis of the trailer.

This movie could go very badly in either direction. Sometimes you should consider whether it is a good idea to make a movie, this is one of those times.

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Can you imagine a bunch of died hair, painted nails, micro-aggressed limp wristed transgendereds waging any type of successful war against...well, anybody? I mean, aside from unarmed school children obviously.

This movie might be unintentionally hilarious, even though I am almost 100% certain it is designed to inflame and sow more division.

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Have no doubt that Garland is a progressive, but given his body of work I suspect it's going to be hard to place the sides of the civil war in easy categories and consider one side the good guys and one side the bad.

His stuff is kind of in the gray area between sci/fi, psychological thriller and horror. Typically takes on some really tough gray area issues like Robot/AI in Ex Machina and Tech Power in the FX show Devs, biowarfare in 28 Days.

I'm actually really intrigued by how this story plays out. My guess would be that the story is inspired by there being elements of both the left and right extremes of American politics and really Western politics in general(garland is English) talking about civil wars because of growing ideological divides. That the ideological middle will get pulled into and forced to pick sides as is always the case in civil wars. Essentially the story coming down to a warning that nobody wins if we go this direction, we all begin to dehumanize each other and it spins out of control until we all start killing each other and even not trusting whose side your on. That's the vibe I got in one of the key moments of the Trailer with Jesse Plemons character.(looks like he's lost a ton of weight as an aside).


But who knows. Maybe Ron Swanson is playing a Trump like dictator archetype and this is a complete hit job on MAGA. That's certainly possible. Hollywood absolutely has lots of anti-maga stuff loaded in the pipeline. I would consider Garland a sell out if that's the case. His career has been much more nuanced than that up to this point.

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Thnak you for that response. I was very intrigued by the trailer as well but confess I am unfamiliar with Garlnd's work. So I had no context with which to judge from which and to which angles the story arc might take.

I was reminded of a mid 2000s CBS show, Jericho, in which it was alluded that factions of the MIC nuke large American cities resulting in an alliance of some Western states against some Eastern States with the Republic of Texas belonging to neither. Of course the real world context at the time of that show was when Cheney was VP and both the Afghan and Iraq wars were raging. So the subtext was Halliburton and Blackwater back then.

I too was struck by the scene where the query is "which kind of American?" So much for E Pluribus Unum, eh?

Was also struck by the reference in a supposed news report of the invocation of the Insurrection Act. And interesting enough, WaPo "reported" on "Project 2025" which envisioned Trump's "plan" to immediately invoke it to arrest his adversaries, among many other unconstitutional actions. That article was quite the fever dream and sadly we have seen political pundits seize on that to assert a second Trump administration would be that bad.

Guess we'll see but a March release date, coupled with the timing (until the stay isssued yesterday) of the Trump DC trial does not appear to be coincidental, at first blush.

Again, thanks for the thoughtful and informative response.

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Nanomachines son said:

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"Civil War"

Why make this film? What is the story about? What is the underlying theme? Who are the "sides"?

A rough analysis of the recently released trailer.

What do you think? https://t.co/sSCKvCUG7s pic.twitter.com/sNYb65IRBP

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) December 13, 2023

Nailed It

No HOGs, here. Another great frame analysis from @_HARVEY__DENT_:

At quick glance, I thought the sniper was a 2024 iteration of bleached-hair Asian sensation, Sang, from Jackie Chan's Rush Hour.. but it turns out they/them is a transmogrified hair-died nail painted… https://t.co/mE04JLSn4E pic.twitter.com/qrxRHvejVO

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) December 13, 2023

Good thread on analysis of the trailer.

This movie could go very badly in either direction. Sometimes you should consider whether it is a good idea to make a movie, this is one of those times.

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Can you imagine a bunch of died hair, painted nails, micro-aggressed limp wristed transgendereds waging any type of successful war against...well, anybody? I mean, aside from unarmed school children obviously.

This movie might be unintentionally hilarious, even though I am almost 100% certain it is designed to inflame and sow more division.

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Evidence that leads me to think it is going to be awful, because the writer is so caught up in the current socio-political climate they can't fathom what such a horrific event might actually look like other than what many of us are already assuming the stereotypical characters and story to be, as is evident with trans flag color nails.

It there were an actual civil war all of the nonsense that people currently believe in would be obliterated.

Kind of like the silly notion, based on our current paradigm, where there are lesbian relationships well into a post-apocalyptic world (e.g., The Last of Us), when more than likely there would be a return to large families and clans. The ruling class would want children for heirs and everyone else would want children to help with the work; clans would want children to fight. While modern weaponry would allow women to be combatants, at some point in your post-apocalyptic story telling ammunition would run out, labor would be divided, might equals right. Where are the transgender females now?

For this movie to be any good he would have to step away from the current lens through which all the social strife we are witnessing is viewed and maybe rely on some history (silly boys who think about Rome) to better understand what real human beings actually do rather than create a ridiculous fantasy mirroring today's wokeness.

The painted nails leads me to think it'll be the latter.

AGinHI said:

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BG Knocc Out said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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"Civil War"

Why make this film? What is the story about? What is the underlying theme? Who are the "sides"?

A rough analysis of the recently released trailer.

What do you think? https://t.co/sSCKvCUG7s pic.twitter.com/sNYb65IRBP

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) December 13, 2023

Nailed It

No HOGs, here. Another great frame analysis from @_HARVEY__DENT_:

At quick glance, I thought the sniper was a 2024 iteration of bleached-hair Asian sensation, Sang, from Jackie Chan's Rush Hour.. but it turns out they/them is a transmogrified hair-died nail painted… https://t.co/mE04JLSn4E pic.twitter.com/qrxRHvejVO

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) December 13, 2023

Good thread on analysis of the trailer.

This movie could go very badly in either direction. Sometimes you should consider whether it is a good idea to make a movie, this is one of those times.

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Can you imagine a bunch of died hair, painted nails, micro-aggressed limp wristed transgendereds waging any type of successful war against...well, anybody? I mean, aside from unarmed school children obviously.

This movie might be unintentionally hilarious, even though I am almost 100% certain it is designed to inflame and sow more division.

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Evidence that leads me to think it is going to be awful, because the writer is so caught up in the current socio-political climate they can't fathom what such a horrific event might actually look like other than what many of us are already assuming the stereotypical characters and story to be, as is evident with trans flag color nails.

It there were an actual civil war all of the nonsense that people currently believe in would be obliterated.

Kind of like the silly notion, based on our current paradigm, where there are lesbian relationships well into a post-apocalyptic world (e.g., The Last of Us), when more than likely there would be a return to large families and clans. The ruling class would want children for heirs and everyone else would want children to help with the work; clans would want children to fight. While modern weaponry would allow women to be combatants, at some point in your post-apocalyptic story telling ammunition would run out, labor would be divided, might equals right. Where are the transgender females now?

For this movie to be any good he would have to step away from the current lens through which all the social strife we are witnessing is viewed and maybe rely on some history (silly boys who think about Rome) to better understand what real human beings actually do rather than create a ridiculous fantasy mirroring today's wokeness.

The painted nails leads me to think it'll be the latter.

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Excellent Post !!!. Pragmatic and reasoned. So rare these days !!!

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Texas and Cali join up? How that happen?

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i know the meme is that california is a communist state but there are more registered republicans in california than there are people in half the other states. maybe the cali republicans and the texit types teamed up.

How did CA and TX team up? In the real world absent some weird event in the future they wont. I know that, you know that, the writer knows that, and so does every producer in Hollywood. If you make a movie based too much on the current political realities and overtly blame a large and highly populated portion of America, thats bad for business. So you focus on broader themes of divisiveness and how could this happen here in a willful suspension of belief movie.

And I for one think the explosions and theme look cool, as long as it skirts taking an overt stand on the issues of our day in a preachy eyerolling way, looks like a fun time.

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Looks like the sequel to......

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I don't know if it makes a difference, but the conservative chick kills all the over the top lib hunters in gruesome fashion in the flick.

I LOVED Jericho for about half the season

then it got into the entire "CIA probably did it as a false flag" bs and it went downhill.

ran from 2006-2008

Alicia Coppola for the win!

Malibu said:

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How did CA and TX team up? In the real world absent some weird event in the future they wont. I know that, you know that, the writer knows that, and so does every producer in Hollywood. If you make a movie based too much on the current political realities and overtly blame a large and highly populated portion of America, thats bad for business. So you focus on broader themes of divisiveness and how could this happen here in a willful suspension of belief movie.

And I for one think the explosions and theme look cool, as long as it skirts taking an overt stand on the issues of our day in a preachy eyerolling way, looks like a fun time.

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Putting Texas and Cali together as allies in the trailer is clickbait. I'm sure the movie will rationalize this in some way but dropping that in the trailer is entirely to titillate the viewer and get folks like us talking about it.

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I LOVED Jericho for about half the season

then it got into the entire "CIA probably did it as a false flag" bs and it went downhill.

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It was canceled before the full story arc could be developed but I think the implication was that elements of the CIA or former CIA were working for large defense contractors. They even had a private mercenary group called Ravenwood that mirrored the actual use of Blackwater back then.

But at the end, Jake, Hawkins and the nuclear bomb were "safe" in the Republic of Texas and we had a nuke.

AGinHI said:

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BG Knocc Out said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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"Civil War"

Why make this film? What is the story about? What is the underlying theme? Who are the "sides"?

A rough analysis of the recently released trailer.

What do you think? https://t.co/sSCKvCUG7s pic.twitter.com/sNYb65IRBP

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) December 13, 2023

Nailed It

No HOGs, here. Another great frame analysis from @_HARVEY__DENT_:

At quick glance, I thought the sniper was a 2024 iteration of bleached-hair Asian sensation, Sang, from Jackie Chan's Rush Hour.. but it turns out they/them is a transmogrified hair-died nail painted… https://t.co/mE04JLSn4E pic.twitter.com/qrxRHvejVO

— 𝙼𝙰𝚂𝚂 𝙴𝚡𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 (@MASSExpedition) December 13, 2023

Good thread on analysis of the trailer.

This movie could go very badly in either direction. Sometimes you should consider whether it is a good idea to make a movie, this is one of those times.

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Can you imagine a bunch of died hair, painted nails, micro-aggressed limp wristed transgendereds waging any type of successful war against...well, anybody? I mean, aside from unarmed school children obviously.

This movie might be unintentionally hilarious, even though I am almost 100% certain it is designed to inflame and sow more division.

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Evidence that leads me to think it is going to be awful, because the writer is so caught up in the current socio-political climate they can't fathom what such a horrific event might actually look like other than what many of us are already assuming the stereotypical characters and story to be, as is evident with trans flag color nails.

It there were an actual civil war all of the nonsense that people currently believe in would be obliterated.

Kind of like the silly notion, based on our current paradigm, where there are lesbian relationships well into a post-apocalyptic world (e.g., The Last of Us), when more than likely there would be a return to large families and clans. The ruling class would want children for heirs and everyone else would want children to help with the work; clans would want children to fight. While modern weaponry would allow women to be combatants, at some point in your post-apocalyptic story telling ammunition would run out, labor would be divided, might equals right. Where are the transgender females now?

For this movie to be any good he would have to step away from the current lens through which all the social strife we are witnessing is viewed and maybe rely on some history (silly boys who think about Rome) to better understand what real human beings actually do rather than create a ridiculous fantasy mirroring today's wokeness.

The painted nails leads me to think it'll be the latter.

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Great post...and you make some great points. In a Civil War/SHTF scenario...people are no longer worried about being misgendered, whether they can still kill their offspring or not, whether man can get pregnant and breastfeed, or whether blacks are too stupid to get voter ID's etc.

Almost every liberal cause goes right the F out of the window when times get really tough. ALL that matters is how many guns and ammo can me and my family or small community accumulate. How do we organize. And how do we stay alive?

Me personally, I would be begging my uncle to let us contribute (in form of labor and protection), in exchange for shelter and refuge on his super remote acreage in deep east TX.

Can't help but think a movie like this has been created and released to have this subject matter injected to the American consciousness. Now the questions are by whom and to what end.

I think they are teaming up TX and Cali to throw off any obvious connections to today's political landscape. No matter how hard they try though people will find things to grab and say they're favoring one side or the other.

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I think they are teaming up TX and Cali to throw off any obvious connections to today's political landscape. No matter how hard they try though people will find things to grab and say they're favoring one side or the other.

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Agree that people will take away from this movie what they want to take away unless there is little question. The story arc and plotline have been kept secret to gin up interest from as broad an audience as possible in the opening weeks or so.

Having said that, having the apparently main characters be journalists, including a war correspondent leads me to think it will have a more standoffish POV wherein both sides are right and wrong, more of an anti-war take in that everyone loses in war.

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Can't help but think a movie like this has been created and released to have this subject matter injected to the American consciousness. Now the questions are by whom and to what end.

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This is exactly right. This isn't just a cash-in, this has a purpose.

This is pure Democratic fear porn in advance of the 2024 presidential election.

BTW, that's a lot of painted index finger wrapped around that trigger.

Must be a new, non-binary shooting technique.