Rivian Trucks and Financing

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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The other day I was getting pre-approved for an auto loan from my local credit union. The loan agent went through all the requirements and exclusions and one of them was that they wouldn't finance a Rivian truck. They didn't mention any other EVs, just Rivian. At the time I was focused on other stuff, so I didn't think anything about it.

Does anyone know why they would exclude this particular EV?
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Hondo.
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An "auto" loan!?!
Signel
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Resale on EV's has been tanking. If you were about to front money for someone, would you do it if the value went through the floor, and the buyer walked away from the purchase?

Phatbob
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Bank is saying it isn't even worth the subsidized price.
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Hondo. said:

An "auto" loan!?!



This!
hph6203
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My guess is because they're a startup and just now significantly ramping their production. Lifetime they've made fewer than 100,000 vehicles and don't have the parts inventory to promptly repair their cars and build new ones so the repair costs are through the roof.
hoosier-daddy
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Rode in one a couple weeks ago. Pretty damn cool truck
CDUB98
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hph6203 said:

My guess is because they're a startup and just now significantly ramping their production. Lifetime they've made fewer than 100,000 vehicles and don't have the parts inventory to promptly repair their cars and build new ones so the repair costs are through the roof.


Blue parachute for you. This is a strong case. Where I pause is that Lucid should be on the list for the same reasons.
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Had a buddy buy one for mid 70k price and sell it to an Oklahoma dealership 4 months later (they contacted him) for $115k. Sent a hauler to pick it up and handed him a check. That was beginning of this year I believe.
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CDUB98 said:

hph6203 said:

My guess is because they're a startup and just now significantly ramping their production. Lifetime they've made fewer than 100,000 vehicles and don't have the parts inventory to promptly repair their cars and build new ones so the repair costs are through the roof.


Blue parachute for you. This is a strong case. Where I pause is that Lucid should be on the list for the same reasons.


Was it a rivian or Ford lightning that had a small fender bender then the repair cost came out out to like 40k

It was rivian.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/rivian-r1t-fender-bender-turns-into-42000-repair-bill

hph6203
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My guess is it's because Lucid sells like 1500 cars a quarter and it would be like saying we don't lend on Ferraris (even rarer than that).

That and the majority of Lucid's models might be excluded from their loan programs based purely on the fact that they're $130,000+ vehicles and they may have maximum individual loan limits that already turn down most of the inquiries.
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Agthatbuilds said:

CDUB98 said:

hph6203 said:

My guess is because they're a startup and just now significantly ramping their production. Lifetime they've made fewer than 100,000 vehicles and don't have the parts inventory to promptly repair their cars and build new ones so the repair costs are through the roof.


Blue parachute for you. This is a strong case. Where I pause is that Lucid should be on the list for the same reasons.


Was it a rivian or Ford lightning that had a small fender bender then the repair cost came out out to like 40k

It was rivian.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/rivian-r1t-fender-bender-turns-into-42000-repair-bill




Dude's license plate misspelled "IDI0T"
hph6203
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I hope Rivian makes it. At the very least they make some compelling looking vehicles.
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Signel said:

Resale on EV's has been tanking. If you were about to front money for someone, would you do it if the value went through the floor, and the buyer walked away from the purchase?




It was just Rivian, no other EVs.
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They're ugly.

4 Door M35A2/deuce & a half, or a jeep gladiator would be an excellent choice instead.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

The other day I was getting pre-approved for an auto loan from my local credit union. The loan agent went through all the requirements and exclusions and one of them was that they wouldn't finance a Rivian truck. They didn't mention any other EVs, just Rivian. At the time I was focused on other stuff, so I didn't think anything about it.

Does anyone know why they would exclude this particular EV?
They don't want their money going up in flames?
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Hondo. said:

An "auto" loan!?!



I've borrowed money for every car I've ever bought. Been a while since my last one (2018) but there has never been a time I couldn't get a better return on the money than the car loan.

The infinity was 0.9%. That's free money. I saw an ad for Hyundai for 1.9%. Hell, CDs are paying over 5% right now.
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Hondo. said:

An "auto" loan!?!



a transportation appliance loan
Ag_of_08
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Given its 5 digits to repair a dent in the bed because they're idiots.... I don't blame banks.
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Why don't you call and ask them?
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hph6203 said:

I hope Rivian makes it. At the very least they make some compelling looking vehicles.


Me too...I dropped some money in them hoping it would take off eventually...promptly the stock price fell..
Hondo.
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Science Denier said:

Hondo. said:

An "auto" loan!?!



I've borrowed money for every car I've ever bought. Been a while since my last one (2018) but there has never been a time I couldn't get a better return on the money than the car loan.

The infinity was 0.9%. That's free money. I saw an ad for Hyundai for 1.9%. Hell, CDs are paying over 5% right now.

If you can make it profitable and work, great! For me, I prefer to just stay away..
Some dealerships discovered they can make just as much $$ if not more with their finance department as they can with the sale of the auto. Lo and behold, buyers can't afford the car, but they can afford the monthly payment.. as it is stretched across 4..5.. 7 years or so. Level of financial illiteracy is simply insane.
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Hondo. said:

Science Denier said:

Hondo. said:

An "auto" loan!?!



I've borrowed money for every car I've ever bought. Been a while since my last one (2018) but there has never been a time I couldn't get a better return on the money than the car loan.

The infinity was 0.9%. That's free money. I saw an ad for Hyundai for 1.9%. Hell, CDs are paying over 5% right now.

If you can make it profitable and work, great! For me, I prefer to just stay away..
Some dealerships discovered they can make just as much $$ if not more with their finance department as they can with the sale of the auto. Lo and behold, buyers can't afford the car, but they can afford the monthly payment.. as it is stretched across 4..5.. 7 years or so. Level of financial illiteracy is simply insane.


There's something to be said for those who can't manage their money to stick with cash. It's a solid strategy for those individuals for sure.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

The other day I was getting pre-approved for an auto loan from my local credit union. The loan agent went through all the requirements and exclusions and one of them was that they wouldn't finance a Rivian truck. They didn't mention any other EVs, just Rivian. At the time I was focused on other stuff, so I didn't think anything about it.

Does anyone know why they would exclude this particular EV?
Risk Management decision... Got to respect that.
fullback44
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Slogan should be

"Buy a Rivian now .. we will help you now and F you Later".. when things seem to good, they usually aren't !
YouBet
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Rivian's financials are an utter **** show last time I looked. I would not buy one simply because they could go under the day after you get it and now you are out of luck.
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Hondo. said:

Science Denier said:

Hondo. said:

An "auto" loan!?!



I've borrowed money for every car I've ever bought. Been a while since my last one (2018) but there has never been a time I couldn't get a better return on the money than the car loan.

The infinity was 0.9%. That's free money. I saw an ad for Hyundai for 1.9%. Hell, CDs are paying over 5% right now.

If you can make it profitable and work, great! For me, I prefer to just stay away..
Some dealerships discovered they can make just as much $$ if not more with their finance department as they can with the sale of the auto. Lo and behold, buyers can't afford the car, but they can afford the monthly payment.. as it is stretched across 4..5.. 7 years or so. Level of financial illiteracy is simply insane.
My wife and I just took out a 6 year loan. We keep our **** for a while.

The financial idiots (dumbasses in oldspeak) are the ones who buy a new ride and then trade it in two years later, lol.

Those are the true financial idiots.
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The early Rivians that went to the big auto reviewers on YouTube were almost universally panned as poor build quality vs the price.

All said the drive and looks were great but noted tons of little things like leaky gaskets, specs and bubbles in paint, or small items not working 100%

Maybe just the early production units but still not acceptable for the price tag.
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JamesPShelley said:

Hondo. said:

Science Denier said:

Hondo. said:

An "auto" loan!?!



I've borrowed money for every car I've ever bought. Been a while since my last one (2018) but there has never been a time I couldn't get a better return on the money than the car loan.

The infinity was 0.9%. That's free money. I saw an ad for Hyundai for 1.9%. Hell, CDs are paying over 5% right now.

If you can make it profitable and work, great! For me, I prefer to just stay away..
Some dealerships discovered they can make just as much $$ if not more with their finance department as they can with the sale of the auto. Lo and behold, buyers can't afford the car, but they can afford the monthly payment.. as it is stretched across 4..5.. 7 years or so. Level of financial illiteracy is simply insane.
My wife and I just took out a 6 year loan. We keep our **** for a while.

The financial idiots (dumbasses in oldspeak) are the ones who buy a new ride and then trade it in two years later, lol.

Those are the true financial idiots.


6 years!? If you have the cash and at current interest rates, you should be doing half that length of a loan at least. (I'm assuming rates are still high right now; I haven't looked). Or pay it off early if length of loan was dependent on better rate assuming no pre-payment or payoff penalty.
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hoosier-daddy said:

Rode in one a couple weeks ago. Pretty damn cool truck


It is a very nice looking vehicle, and it's infinitely better looking than the thing a five year old drew that Elon put out.

I've seen a few and I'm not the only who who does the appreciative double take when it goes by.
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hph6203 said:

I hope Rivian makes it. At the very least they make some compelling looking vehicles.


Personally, I do too. But 100,000 vehicles after burning through $10 billion in funding is beyond horrid.
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YouBet said:

JamesPShelley said:

Hondo. said:

Science Denier said:

Hondo. said:

An "auto" loan!?!



I've borrowed money for every car I've ever bought. Been a while since my last one (2018) but there has never been a time I couldn't get a better return on the money than the car loan.

The infinity was 0.9%. That's free money. I saw an ad for Hyundai for 1.9%. Hell, CDs are paying over 5% right now.

If you can make it profitable and work, great! For me, I prefer to just stay away..
Some dealerships discovered they can make just as much $$ if not more with their finance department as they can with the sale of the auto. Lo and behold, buyers can't afford the car, but they can afford the monthly payment.. as it is stretched across 4..5.. 7 years or so. Level of financial illiteracy is simply insane.
My wife and I just took out a 6 year loan. We keep our **** for a while.

The financial idiots (dumbasses in oldspeak) are the ones who buy a new ride and then trade it in two years later, lol.

Those are the true financial idiots.


6 years!? If you have the cash and at current interest rates, you should be doing half that length of a loan at least. (I'm assuming rates are still high right now; I haven't looked). Or pay it off early if length of loan was dependent on better rate assuming no pre-payment or payoff penalty.


Why not just put it on your black card, Jay-Z!?
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BigRobSA said:

YouBet said:

JamesPShelley said:

Hondo. said:

Science Denier said:

Hondo. said:

An "auto" loan!?!



I've borrowed money for every car I've ever bought. Been a while since my last one (2018) but there has never been a time I couldn't get a better return on the money than the car loan.

The infinity was 0.9%. That's free money. I saw an ad for Hyundai for 1.9%. Hell, CDs are paying over 5% right now.

If you can make it profitable and work, great! For me, I prefer to just stay away..
Some dealerships discovered they can make just as much $$ if not more with their finance department as they can with the sale of the auto. Lo and behold, buyers can't afford the car, but they can afford the monthly payment.. as it is stretched across 4..5.. 7 years or so. Level of financial illiteracy is simply insane.
My wife and I just took out a 6 year loan. We keep our **** for a while.

The financial idiots (dumbasses in oldspeak) are the ones who buy a new ride and then trade it in two years later, lol.

Those are the true financial idiots.


6 years!? If you have the cash and at current interest rates, you should be doing half that length of a loan at least. (I'm assuming rates are still high right now; I haven't looked). Or pay it off early if length of loan was dependent on better rate assuming no pre-payment or payoff penalty.


Why not just put it on your black card, Jay-Z!?


I buy my rides with loose diamonds.
BigRobSA
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YouBet said:

BigRobSA said:

YouBet said:

JamesPShelley said:

Hondo. said:

Science Denier said:

Hondo. said:

An "auto" loan!?!



I've borrowed money for every car I've ever bought. Been a while since my last one (2018) but there has never been a time I couldn't get a better return on the money than the car loan.

The infinity was 0.9%. That's free money. I saw an ad for Hyundai for 1.9%. Hell, CDs are paying over 5% right now.

If you can make it profitable and work, great! For me, I prefer to just stay away..
Some dealerships discovered they can make just as much $$ if not more with their finance department as they can with the sale of the auto. Lo and behold, buyers can't afford the car, but they can afford the monthly payment.. as it is stretched across 4..5.. 7 years or so. Level of financial illiteracy is simply insane.
My wife and I just took out a 6 year loan. We keep our **** for a while.

The financial idiots (dumbasses in oldspeak) are the ones who buy a new ride and then trade it in two years later, lol.

Those are the true financial idiots.


6 years!? If you have the cash and at current interest rates, you should be doing half that length of a loan at least. (I'm assuming rates are still high right now; I haven't looked). Or pay it off early if length of loan was dependent on better rate assuming no pre-payment or payoff penalty.


Why not just put it on your black card, Jay-Z!?


I buy my rides with loose diamonds.


I crush those and sprinkle on my eggs, to make my dookie twinkle!
nortex97
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Some insurers are refusing to cover them, too.

Good luck replacing that battery in 6 or 8 years or whatever, though I think they did manage to raise a bunch more money last month successfully so I doubt they close the doors in the next 90 days.
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