Another DEI racist. He needs to be gone yesterday.
Ag with kids said:
I'm sticking with my earlier comment.
I looked at some of his examples and they were probably just the bull**** language that was put in earlier and hasn't been scrubbed. As I said, you can't just change the PD on your own and post it. It has to go through a process that takes weeks.
I'll have to see more than some PDs that haven't had that language removed before I think this guy is a giant lib.
But, feel free to keep on the witch hunt.
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...under the leadership of Deborah Lee James and General Mark Welsh, and now Secretary Heather Wilson and General David Goldfein, the United States Air Force has taken huge strides to improve diversity and inclusiveness. The organization has launched thirteen new initiatives aimed at eliminating systemic barriers to diversity, from recruitment to training to promotion. These initiatives are promising steps toward eliminating gender disparity in the ranks, and more can be done.
One of the diversity initiatives the Air Force has undertaken is to mandate unconscious bias training for selection board members who make critical placement and promotion decisions...
I read the article. So, I wasn't convinced.AggieKeith15 said:Ag with kids said:
I'm sticking with my earlier comment.
I looked at some of his examples and they were probably just the bull**** language that was put in earlier and hasn't been scrubbed. As I said, you can't just change the PD on your own and post it. It has to go through a process that takes weeks.
I'll have to see more than some PDs that haven't had that language removed before I think this guy is a giant lib.
But, feel free to keep on the witch hunt.
I take it you didn't watch the video I linked. He's a true believer, dude. If his words aren't enough look at the policies he implemented at the Air Force Academy with 30% female enrollment quotas.
2004FIGHTINTXAG said:
4-Star General = entrenched politician.
Well, these things are happening...So, so far...yes. I guess he could look the other way and let it back slide.DD88 said:
https://president.tamu.edu/messages/tamus-guidance-on-senate-bill-17.htmlQuote:
Texas A&M System Guidance on Senate Bill 17
GENERAL (RET.) MARK A. WELSH III
INTERIM PRESIDENT
September 7, 2023
Members of the Aggie Family,
As you are aware, the 88th Texas Legislature passed Senate Bill 17 (S.B. 17) during its regular session to prohibit diversity, equity and inclusion offices and initiatives at public universities, effective Jan. 1, 2024. On Aug. 16, The Texas A&M University System approved revisions to System Policy 08.01, which provides the framework for System members' implementation of the requirements of S.B. 17. Since then, the System has released a set of frequently asked questions to further guide the university's implementation of S.B. 17.
As previously shared, the university will ensure full compliance of S.B. 17 by Jan. 1, 2024. We are currently taking the following initial actions:
- Staff members previously supporting the Office for Diversity have been reassigned, and this office is closed.
- Hiring practices and required training are being updated, where applicable, to align with official guidance.
- University policies and related documents are undergoing revisions to ensure compliance.
Does anyone believe him?
Read this, it will confirm he ordered the opposite of Gov Abbot's law.....BluHorseShu said:I know what he said about the hire...but as far as DEI, I felt he did a great job taking down those things put in place prior and relating to DEI. The offices, job postings, trainings, etc. are all defunct now. Granted, the state requires this, but from what I can see at the university, he's not promoted anything remotely like what was at a time.SunrayAg said:
DEI is cancer brought upon our society by mentally ill leftards.
He endorses and advocates for DEI.
Draw from that what you will.
That doesn't mean he's not going to hire people on the left (or perceived that way) if they add value to the university.
And I did get on the receiving in of DEI years ago when I was competing for position that went to a diversity applicant (and was ultimately told as much). So I'm no fan. But things have gotten incrementally better and I've not seen anything from Welsh to indicate otherwise.
I think he's an honorable man and I'm willing to give him time before I make any knee jerk opinions.
oklacityag75 said:Read this, it will confirm he ordered the opposite of Gov Abbot's law.....BluHorseShu said:I know what he said about the hire...but as far as DEI, I felt he did a great job taking down those things put in place prior and relating to DEI. The offices, job postings, trainings, etc. are all defunct now. Granted, the state requires this, but from what I can see at the university, he's not promoted anything remotely like what was at a time.SunrayAg said:
DEI is cancer brought upon our society by mentally ill leftards.
He endorses and advocates for DEI.
Draw from that what you will.
That doesn't mean he's not going to hire people on the left (or perceived that way) if they add value to the university.
And I did get on the receiving in of DEI years ago when I was competing for position that went to a diversity applicant (and was ultimately told as much). So I'm no fan. But things have gotten incrementally better and I've not seen anything from Welsh to indicate otherwise.
I think he's an honorable man and I'm willing to give him time before I make any knee jerk opinions.
https://www.theblaze.com/columns/opinion/texas-am-defies-diversity-bans?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20231115SponsoredTrending-RevelationMedia&utm_term=ACTIVE LIST - TheBlaze Breaking News
Yeah...I read that article and checked out a few of his links. They had standard boilerplate language that was probably tossed in awhile back and hasn't been scrubbed out of the standard PD. And you can't just change them yourself and repost them...changing them requires a process that takes weeks. It's a PITA. I know since I've submitted a number of these for TAMU-CC.FlyRod said:oklacityag75 said:Read this, it will confirm he ordered the opposite of Gov Abbot's law.....BluHorseShu said:I know what he said about the hire...but as far as DEI, I felt he did a great job taking down those things put in place prior and relating to DEI. The offices, job postings, trainings, etc. are all defunct now. Granted, the state requires this, but from what I can see at the university, he's not promoted anything remotely like what was at a time.SunrayAg said:
DEI is cancer brought upon our society by mentally ill leftards.
He endorses and advocates for DEI.
Draw from that what you will.
That doesn't mean he's not going to hire people on the left (or perceived that way) if they add value to the university.
And I did get on the receiving in of DEI years ago when I was competing for position that went to a diversity applicant (and was ultimately told as much). So I'm no fan. But things have gotten incrementally better and I've not seen anything from Welsh to indicate otherwise.
I think he's an honorable man and I'm willing to give him time before I make any knee jerk opinions.
https://www.theblaze.com/columns/opinion/texas-am-defies-diversity-bans?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20231115SponsoredTrending-RevelationMedia&utm_term=ACTIVE LIST - TheBlaze Breaking News
I read The Blaze piece. The author, Scott Yenor, claims that the candidate search for the Bush School asks for a cover letter that includes "diversity efforts." The link to the ad the author provides in the article contains no such request. Maybe the others do, but after that credibility lapse I didn't bother to check.
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Four years later, I left the job. They're still not there. Not because nobody wants to go there, everybody wants to go there, but all the rules say you can't establish quotas, you can't set goals, you can't use numbers," said Welsh. "All the lawyers fought us. It took two and a half years before we made any progress at all and then we only made it because I signed a memo saying we're going to do it and you can try me later.
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I'll just tell you that if a regent calls me and says, 'Hey, I really am worried about this,' I'll say 'Thank you for the call.' But I'm not going to call the department head and tell them who to hire.
I agree with your assessment. I am acquainted with two of the Regents and they advise that TAMU is totally Sharp's fiefdom and Abbott strongly supports him. Moreover, change is far from likely in the near term because Sharp and Abbott control the selection/appointment of the Regents.AggieKeith15 said:
We need to take down Sharp apparently. He's the one making all of these problems.
BCG Disciple said:
I'm confused by the "and accountability" part of DEI. Accountability is a hinderance to DEI. Does the accountability mean that we must be accountable for the actions of our great great great great great great great great grandparents and submit to DEI rule?
Interesting since the Regents are above Sharp on the org chart...sharpdressedman said:I agree with your assessment. I am acquainted with two of the Regents and they advise that TAMU is totally Sharp's fiefdom and Abbott strongly supports him. Moreover, change is far from likely in the near term because Sharp and Abbott control the selection/appointment of the Regents.AggieKeith15 said:
We need to take down Sharp apparently. He's the one making all of these problems.
policywonk98 said:
Personally I think all of the information in Texas Scorecoard deserves serious consideration, but I also don't see evidence of DEI extremism.
I my opinion DEI extremism is the tossing out of merit and replacing it with diversity at all costs. Including potentially taking a hit on products, services, or quality of applicant pool, etc.
He seems to very clearly articulate that if all things were equal among two applicants then diversity would come into play for him as a hiring manager.
I don't find that offensive. If I had two final applicants and they were equal, my default would be, which applicant will be a net benefit to the dynamic of the team they will be on. Will they fit into the culture of the team. And for me that wouldn't mean the color of their skin, it would mean their personality type, their temperament, to the extent one has been on display in the hiring process. That's just me. You throw someone into any team that wouldn't mesh well with the team and you destroy the team and by extension the teams outcomes.
Now, if he's suggesting that the government or any institution that holds power over hiring practices, forces every hiring manager to consider DEI above merit, that's a big problem.
But in my opinion it's more helpful to call for a public discussion on this issue. In this context, for the benefit of Texas A&M. And instead of calling for a candidate to be forced out, why not force the university into a public discussion of competing ideas on these issues. That's what a university is for.
Do I think the progressive faculty will play nice in this circumstance. Of course not. But it doesn't mean you don't still call for debate and discussion around these important issues.
And for me, these statements being reported are not definitive of extremism as I would define it. Simply a position on hiring matrix that I think does not consider the health of a team or department in the right way.
While we are at, people like Welsh should have their feet put to the fire on diversity of thought. Is that a consideration for the university, if not, why not. If yes, give us examples where that has actually happened. Who has been hired in order to give a department a more well rounded representation of worldviews.
Geesh... UT-Austin is eliminating their pro-DEI fellowship program at the same time @TAMU is hiring a loud, unapologetic advocate for #DEI as the new president.
— Michael Quinn Sullivan 🇺🇸 (@MQSullivan) December 1, 2023
The #Aggies are about to more leftist than the t-sips.
Congrats, ol' Ags! https://t.co/4dJTnOZDwd