Victoria County, all props passed!

NYT has 40% in and nearly all are passing. Judge mandatory retirement looks to be the single failure. Galveston and medical supplies are close. Shame...


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/07/us/elections/results-texas.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=election-results&context=election_recirc®ion=StateResultsFooter

Victoria County usually votes heavy conservative, I don't know anymore.

Ny times with pay wall.

That's why I summarized it for you. Also seems to be a soft paywall. I just logged in with Google and declined a subscription.

If you want the latest results, here they are from the state

https://results.texas-election.com/races

Unbelievable. People are morons.

9 passed by a huge margin

All passing except #13

goags2 said:

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All passing except #13

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I'd like to see a few more fail (2 & 10 especially), but very glad 13 is failing.

Ags77 said:

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9 passed by a huge margin

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This was idiotic.

But congrats on selfishly robbing our treasury with your vote rather than demanding tax reductions for everyone later since they clearly are taxing us too much in the general fund.

You're clearly in the minority on that one Mr. Tea Party. 84% of voters supported Prop 9. As of right now, more people supported Prop 9 than the property tax break in Prop 4, that's how popular Prop 9 is.

Did anyone read these before voting? I feel like people don't understand what they are doing.

The System said:

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You're clearly in the minority on that one Mr. Tea Party. 84% of voters supported Prop 9. As of right now, more people supported Prop 9 than the property tax break in Prop 4, that's how popular Prop 9 is.

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I know I'm in the minority. But congrats on you helping the looting and the degradation of our society.

The System always wins in the long run when the system is based on greed and corruption.

I lost count how many people falsely advertised Prop 9 as great because it doesn't raise taxes. The sheeple eart up that kind of misinformation.

The correct advertisement should have been that voting for Prop 9 makes it incredibly harder to reduce taxes in the future, but that's not something The System wants the people to hear.

I digress. Enjoy your loot.

The System said:

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You're clearly in the minority on that one Mr. Tea Party. 84% of voters supported Prop 9. As of right now, more people supported Prop 9 than the property tax break in Prop 4, that's how popular Prop 9 is.

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I am happy to be in the minority in this case, at least I can read history.

Want to know one of the big reasons blue cities, counties, states are broke? Look no farther than giving public employees big pensions with COLAs. We are now headed down that road. Feel good is not being a good steward.

Tea Party said:

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The System said:

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You're clearly in the minority on that one Mr. Tea Party. 84% of voters supported Prop 9. As of right now, more people supported Prop 9 than the property tax break in Prop 4, that's how popular Prop 9 is.

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I know I'm in the minority. But congrats on you helping the looting and the degradation of our society.

The System always wins in the long run when the system is based on greed and corruption.

I lost count how many people falsely advertised Prop 9 as great because it doesn't raise taxes. The sheeple eart up that kind of misinformation.

The correct advertisement should have been that voting for Prop 9 makes it incredibly harder to reduce taxes in the future, but that's not something The System wants the people to hear.

I digress. Enjoy your loot.

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It didn't raise taxes.

Explain to us how you think it does.

It didn't raise taxes, but it spends our overtaxed "surplus" and gives it to special groups.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage."

Alexander Fraser Tytler

Furious said:

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It didn't raise taxes, but it spends our overtaxed "surplus" and gives it to special groups.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage."

Alexander Fraser Tytler

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A whole lot of people apparently voted to give the largesse to other people...since I doubt 84% of the voters were retired teachers.

Tea Party said:

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Ags77 said:

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9 passed by a huge margin

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This was idiotic.

But congrats on selfishly robbing our treasury with your vote rather than demanding tax reductions for everyone later since they clearly are taxing us too much in the general fund.

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Nah, 9 was a good thing and needed to pass.

Tea Party said:

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The System said:

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You're clearly in the minority on that one Mr. Tea Party. 84% of voters supported Prop 9. As of right now, more people supported Prop 9 than the property tax break in Prop 4, that's how popular Prop 9 is.

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I know I'm in the minority. But congrats on you helping the looting and the degradation of our society.

The System always wins in the long run when the system is based on greed and corruption.

I lost count how many people falsely advertised Prop 9 as great because it doesn't raise taxes. The sheeple eart up that kind of misinformation.

The correct advertisement should have been that voting for Prop 9 makes it incredibly harder to reduce taxes in the future, but that's not something The System wants the people to hear.

I digress. Enjoy your loot.

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Lol, hyperbole much??

Texans have become a bunch of welfare statist types, the cities are lost now, the state will go down too.

7% turnout, proponents will when almost everytime.

Ag with kids said:

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Tea Party said:

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The System said:

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You're clearly in the minority on that one Mr. Tea Party. 84% of voters supported Prop 9. As of right now, more people supported Prop 9 than the property tax break in Prop 4, that's how popular Prop 9 is.

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I know I'm in the minority. But congrats on you helping the looting and the degradation of our society.

The System always wins in the long run when the system is based on greed and corruption.

I lost count how many people falsely advertised Prop 9 as great because it doesn't raise taxes. The sheeple eart up that kind of misinformation.

The correct advertisement should have been that voting for Prop 9 makes it incredibly harder to reduce taxes in the future, but that's not something The System wants the people to hear.

I digress. Enjoy your loot.

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It didn't raise taxes.

Explain to us how you think it does.

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I never claimed it raised taxes nor claimed it would reduce taxes, now.

I said that Prop 9 was advertised as a good thing because it does not raise taxes which is disingenuous at best or evil at worst.

You should instead be advertising it as, Texas taxes it's citizens too much and has a surplus. Instead of lowering taxes in the future, we want to keep taxes high and use the excess to give handouts to people we like such as retired teachers in this instance.

That would be an honest advertisement for Prop 9.

That is the strategy. "Don't understand this, but the flowery descriptions sound positive, so why not?" Wins almost every time.

The wording of the summary description matters hugely and there's already a bias for yes Vs no.

Prop 9 is honoring a commitment the state made to teachers. "You work for fairly low pay, and we'll cover your retirement." A COLA increase isn't some nefarious act.

You want to gripe about taxes, look to the property tax carve out bills.

Props 2 and 10 just make me shake my head - but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

But it just goes to prove that the majority opinion on TexAgs in no way reflects the people of Texas.

Ol Jock 99 said:

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Prop 9 is honoring a commitment the state made to teachers. "You work for fairly low pay, and we'll cover your retirement." A COLA increase isn't some nefarious act.

You want to gripe about taxes, look to the property tax carve out bills.

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They get to retire at 52 with full retirement at 70% of their salary. That's a pretty sweet deal.

It's not honoring *****

You are class of 99. You won't see crap as far as SS. I'll support every reform on the table to ensure it, raising the retirement age, means testing etc..

Don't whine about it. You voted for prop 9, you lost your right to complain about entitlements.

dmart90 said:

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Props 2 and 10 just make me shake my head - but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

But it just goes to prove that the majority opinion on TexAgs in no way reflects the people of Texas.

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And the church said "Praise Jesus!"

I appreciate your concern for my retirement planning.

I really don't think most voters actually researched these and put much thought into them. Ridiculous that they all passed except one. Voters in this **** country are so damn ignorant.

See? By God, this is what happens when you let all those minorities, women, and non-taxpayers vote!

Stupid strawman.

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You should instead be advertising it as, Texas taxes it's citizens too much and has a surplus. Instead of lowering taxes in the future, we want to keep taxes high and use the excess to give handouts to people we like such as retired teachers in this instance.

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Could also be read as "Teachers have been underpaid for years so let's use the surplus to partially remedy that embarrassment for them in retirement."