A Philippine resupply boat deliberately crossed the bow of a Chinese coastguard vessel in an unprofessional and dangerous manner today, causing a minor collision. Here are the videos released by the Chinese side.
— Hu Xijin 胡锡进 (@HuXijin_GT) October 22, 2023
I personally believe that if necessary, China can modify one or… pic.twitter.com/AFyHSZixPJ
How many billions to Philippines too?TRADUCTOR said:
100 Billion to Taiwan stat.
Wrong. 100 Billion to China. /Bidenfka ftc said:How many billions to Philippines too?TRADUCTOR said:
100 Billion to Taiwan stat.
We also need to ensure Australia is protected so at least some billions to them
No $$ to any of them. Time they stand or fall "on their own". No more US blood or treasure except on US soil on behalf of US citizens.fka ftc said:How many billions to Philippines too?TRADUCTOR said:
100 Billion to Taiwan stat.
We also need to ensure Australia is protected so at least some billions to them
Might want to ask McArthur about letting the Philippines stand on their own.whatthehey78 said:No $$ to any of them. Time they stand or fall "on their own". No more US blood or treasure except on US soil on behalf of US citizens.fka ftc said:How many billions to Philippines too?TRADUCTOR said:
100 Billion to Taiwan stat.
We also need to ensure Australia is protected so at least some billions to them
Ginormus Ag said:Wrong. 100 Billion to China. /Bidenfka ftc said:How many billions to Philippines too?TRADUCTOR said:
100 Billion to Taiwan stat.
We also need to ensure Australia is protected so at least some billions to them
Not sure the Filipino boat had a choice. The first video looks like the chinese boats attacked the Philipino boat in a pincher move.fullback44 said:
Crossing the bow of any boat is pretty stupid and dangerous, especially if the boat your crossing is much bigger… not too smartty
YZ250 said:
This type of thing happens weekly. China tries to ram ships, uses water cannons, harass Filipino ships, deny resupply of Filipinos in the Spratt islands etc. China is the bully here but will claim to be the victim. The US, Philippines, Australia, Japan, and Canada have all been doing exercises together this year. The US is also expanding bases in the Philippines.
fka ftc said:How many billions to Philippines too?TRADUCTOR said:
100 Billion to Taiwan stat.
We also need to ensure Australia is protected so at least some billions to them
K2-HMFIC said:A Philippine resupply boat deliberately crossed the bow of a Chinese coastguard vessel in an unprofessional and dangerous manner today, causing a minor collision. Here are the videos released by the Chinese side.
— Hu Xijin 胡锡进 (@HuXijin_GT) October 22, 2023
I personally believe that if necessary, China can modify one or… pic.twitter.com/AFyHSZixPJ
As a note, we're treaty obligated to defend the Philippines.
China could make a move here and force us to make a choice.
It's not a big deal, but I kind of like that it's infuriating to China to use the names the other relevant countries use for the waters by their shores given the whole 9 dash thing and the implication in SCS that it's all China's sea, including the islands and natural resources, regardless of how close they may be to the other countries in the region.Quote:
Potential crisis in South China Sea
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FWIW Huangyan Island (in the OP's tweet in the latter part of the 280 characters) is what we call Scarborough Shoal, and you can see why China thinks it should be theirs given its proximity between the Philippines and China (all but unpictured but for the red nub). That's Vietnam hugging the coast over on the left.Quote:
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However, following an escalation of the Spratly Islands dispute in 2011, various Philippine government agencies started using the name West Philippine Sea. A Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (PAGASA) spokesperson said that the sea to the east of the Philippines will continue to be called the Philippine Sea.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Sea#cite_note-14][14][/url] In September 2012, Philippine President Benigno Aquino III signed Administrative Order No. 29, mandating that all government agencies use the name West Philippine Sea to refer to the parts of South China Sea within the Philippines exclusive economic zone, including the Luzon Sea as well as the waters around, within and adjacent to the Kalayaan Island Group and Bajo de Masinloc, and tasked the National Mapping and Resource Information Authority to use the name in official maps.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Sea#cite_note-15][15][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Sea#cite_note-16][16][/url]
In July 2017, to assert its sovereignty, Indonesia renamed the northern reaches of its exclusive economic zone in the South China Sea as the North Natuna Sea, which is located north of the Indonesian Natuna Islands, bordering southern Vietnam exclusive economic zone, corresponding to southern end of South China Sea.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Sea#cite_note-17][17][/url] The "Natuna Sea" is located south of Natuna Island within Indonesian territorial waters.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Sea#cite_note-18][18][/url] Therefore, Indonesia has named two seas that are portions of South China Sea; the Natuna Sea located between Natuna Islands and the Lingga and Tambelan Archipelagos, and the North Natuna Sea located between the Natuna Islands and Cape C Mau on the southern tip of the Mekong Delta in Vietnam.
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Yukon Cornelius said:
Anyone remember when China hacked and rammed our ships?
China's J-16 intercepting a US RC-135 reconnaissance plane near Chinese airspace.
— Zhao DaShuai 无条件爱国🇨🇳 (@zhao_dashuai) May 30, 2023
0:15 second, as the J-16 cuts across the intruder's nose, the turbulence shook the American aircraft.
The USAF muted the recording, I'm sure there were a few scared f words uttered in the cockpit. pic.twitter.com/xw1vJf3LHL
Yukon Cornelius said:
Anyone remember when China hacked and rammed our ships?
fixed it for you.Sea Speed said:
PI has all but kicked us flags ships off the pier at the old subic navy pier in favor of Chinesecruisespy ships.
Pretty sure he's no longer among us...but, at this point with ridiculous US involvement in foreign militaristic adventures...I'm done. Not falling for anymore US lies as to why we need to spend US treasure on peoples who don't care and don't want us involved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sharpshooter said:Might want to ask McArthur about letting the Philippines stand on their own.whatthehey78 said:No $$ to any of them. Time they stand or fall "on their own". No more US blood or treasure except on US soil on behalf of US citizens.fka ftc said:How many billions to Philippines too?TRADUCTOR said:
100 Billion to Taiwan stat.
We also need to ensure Australia is protected so at least some billions to them
So, you are cool with us becoming surrounded? Stay away from all foreign involvement and hope for the best? And, the McArthur reference was for..........reference.whatthehey78 said:Pretty sure he's no longer among us...but, at this point with ridiculous US involvement in foreign militaristic adventures...I'm done. Not falling for anymore US lies as to why we need to spend US treasure on peoples who don't care and don't want us involved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sharpshooter said:Might want to ask McArthur about letting the Philippines stand on their own.whatthehey78 said:No $$ to any of them. Time they stand or fall "on their own". No more US blood or treasure except on US soil on behalf of US citizens.fka ftc said:How many billions to Philippines too?TRADUCTOR said:
100 Billion to Taiwan stat.
We also need to ensure Australia is protected so at least some billions to them
Cool...no. Not an isolationist, but no longer an "interventionist". Our govt. has lied (Tonkin Bay/WMD's, etc.) and "misused" our young men too many times and it has become SOP. We've gained nothing in return and spent/lost far more than our fair share. Viet Nam vet here and have witnessed too much abuse by our 'so called' leaders, who seemingly only care about the $$ that can be pocketed by our participation in foreign conflicts.Sharpshooter said:So, you are cool with us becoming surrounded? Stay away from all foreign involvement and hope for the best? And, the McArthur reference was for..........reference.whatthehey78 said:Pretty sure he's no longer among us...but, at this point with ridiculous US involvement in foreign militaristic adventures...I'm done. Not falling for anymore US lies as to why we need to spend US treasure on peoples who don't care and don't want us involved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sharpshooter said:Might want to ask McArthur about letting the Philippines stand on their own.whatthehey78 said:No $$ to any of them. Time they stand or fall "on their own". No more US blood or treasure except on US soil on behalf of US citizens.fka ftc said:How many billions to Philippines too?TRADUCTOR said:
100 Billion to Taiwan stat.
We also need to ensure Australia is protected so at least some billions to them
whatthehey78 said:Cool...no. Not an isolationist, but no longer an "interventionist". Our govt. has lied (Tonkin Bay/WMD's, etc.) and "misused" our young men too many times and it has become SOP. We've gained nothing in return and spent/lost far more than our fair share. Viet Nam vet here and have witnessed too much abuse by our 'so called' leaders, who seemingly only care about the $$ that can be pocketed by our participation in foreign conflicts.Sharpshooter said:So, you are cool with us becoming surrounded? Stay away from all foreign involvement and hope for the best? And, the McArthur reference was for..........reference.whatthehey78 said:Pretty sure he's no longer among us...but, at this point with ridiculous US involvement in foreign militaristic adventures...I'm done. Not falling for anymore US lies as to why we need to spend US treasure on peoples who don't care and don't want us involved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sharpshooter said:Might want to ask McArthur about letting the Philippines stand on their own.whatthehey78 said:No $$ to any of them. Time they stand or fall "on their own". No more US blood or treasure except on US soil on behalf of US citizens.fka ftc said:How many billions to Philippines too?TRADUCTOR said:
100 Billion to Taiwan stat.
We also need to ensure Australia is protected so at least some billions to them
ETA - IMHO, our leaders are not concerned about your and my safety, BUT ARE interested in "how much" ($$) can be garnered by your and my son's being put in harms way. SCREW THAT! Time to wise up to their real intentions.
Yes. You think our enemies respect treaties? Worthless paper and not even good for wiping one's arse.K2-HMFIC said:
So we should ignore treaty obligations then?
fka ftc said:Yes. You think our enemies respect treaties? Worthless paper and not even good for wiping one's arse.K2-HMFIC said:
So we should ignore treaty obligations then?
