Their domestic politics could short circuit it tho. Kind of a ahit show.

Same could be said about us. Still took 20 years to leave.

No argument from me on that.

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Pretty sure Israel will do whatever it takes, however long it takes. They're done ****ing around, and they know that anything less than complete annihilation is just kicking the can down the road.

Hell, we spent 20 years in Afghanistan to destroy Al Qaeda and kill bin Laden. 10/7 was infinitely worse for the Israelis then 9/11 was for us.

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I'm not totally confident in that. You are starting to see people in the Israeli government split away from the prevalent destroy Hamas at all cost and wanting to negotiate.

They also need our armament to continue the fight and we are pushing them away from Gaza to focus on Hamas leadership instead. At some point, we can cut them off unless they follow our lead.

I don't think this stops while Bibi is in power - he knows once this is over he will get the blame for the intelligence failures that led to 10/7, so to even have a chance of a political future he is going to have to point to the total destruction of Hamas. The Israelis are a long way from negotiation, and I would not put it past Iran/Hizbullah to really muck things up in the north.

There was no intelligence failure. October 7 was the equivalent of letting someone hit you in the mouth so you can beat the **** outta them.

I agree with the previous post. I've been to the Holy Land several times.....seems to me you can't get a plug nickel into the country without them knowing about it. It's hard for me to fathom that Israel powers did not get even a "sniff" of what was going to happen that fateful Oct morning. A security breach of that magnitude is crazy. It just doesn't add up!

2000AgPhD said:

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I don't think this stops while Bibi is in power - he knows once this is over he will get the blame for the intelligence failures that led to 10/7, so to even have a chance of a political future he is going to have to point to the total destruction of Hamas. The Israelis are a long way from negotiation, and I would not put it past Iran/Hizbullah to really muck things up in the north.

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What is there to negotiate? Allow Hamas to rape and pillage every other year. Hamas says they will keep killing Jews until they kill them all. Israel should drive the Palestinians out but nobody wants them.

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I agree with the previous post. I've been to the Holy Land several times.....seems to me you can't get a plug nickel into the country without them knowing about it. It's hard for me to fathom that Israel powers did not get even a "sniff" of what was going to happen that fateful Oct morning. A security breach of that magnitude is crazy. It just doesn't add up!

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do you realize the "holy land" doesn't include the Gaza Strip- where no Jew has set foot in 17 years?

because of the company I work for there are rumors of this offensive and a large loss of life on the IDF units

hopefully it will not prove to be correct but it's a reminder that the other side of Hamas terrorists, even when we kill hundreds of them each day (9000 dead Hamas so far) but they can fight back as well

Fierce battles are taking place as the IDF launches a new large offensive on the western Khan Younis area in the southern Gaza Strip.

Four brigades, led by the 98th Division, are involved in the offensive, which began yesterday with a series of airstrikes on Hamas sites in the…

— Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian (@manniefabian) January 22, 2024

Don’t forget what started this war pic.twitter.com/3SVtKOy2BW

— Michal (@itsmichalll) January 22, 2024

Hello #Ireland. See this video? These are tunnels built by #Hamas with our taxpayers €€€ being blown up by the IDF #HamasRapists pic.twitter.com/drzdgD0Dur

— Irish Jewish Voice (@Irishchutzpah) January 22, 2024

Want to thank everyone for posting. This is the most riveting international news story of recent and I appreciate the updates!!

IDF dropped leaflets on Khan Yunis: “To the commanders of Hamas, look around you; we are coming for you.” pic.twitter.com/dZahmwErNE

— Raylan Givens (@JewishWarrior13) January 23, 2024

EskimoJoe said:

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C@LAg said:

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A few days ago, Khaled Mashal, a senior member of Hamas who is hiding in Turkey, gave this interview and that's what he said:

“For anyone who supports a two-state solution, we want ONE state. We will have no choice but to accept the two-state solution temporarily so we can… pic.twitter.com/VfW2GTlLzx

— Raylan Givens (@JewishWarrior13) January 18, 2024

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He is correct, a one state solution is the only solution as his people are not capable of creating a state devoid of islamic terrorism.

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The only one state solution that works with Hamas is to put them permanently into a dead state. Every one of them. This guy needs to be at the top of the list.

Very intense CQB footage from what looks like apartment or house on at least one entrenched terrorist who has basically entire IDF squad at bay. Right away an IDF soldier is wounded and a grenade comes out on to the floor in front of what looks to be a breached door and does not go off. Appears to be breaching tool on ground in front of door, but door does not match any of the observed doorways that I can tell. Not sure whos grenade it is. IDF on the near side attempt to frag the room but it appears he did not allow cook off and it gets thrown back out at them and goes off. This one may be some type of concussion frag as the IDF wounded guy is bleeding from ear and nose as fragmentary grenades in those conditions could be lethal to both sides. Near side angle tough throw with dominant arm while far side team would have better angle with dominant arm. At least two more go off and seem to be of two different types. The wounded soldier in shock reloads magazine probably on a closed bolt and it does not catch falling out. At one point he is pointing it wo mag in.

LM Cane how about a translation here please?

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/19dr8s1/close_quarters_combat_idf_soldier_getting_wounded/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

The Incident yesterday in the Southern Gaza Strip in which 21 Israeli Soldiers were Killed is reported to be the “Largest Single-Loss of Life” by the Israel Defense Force since the Hamas Massacre on October 7th.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 23, 2024

Israel had a rough one yesterday

The IDF releases footage of the Givati Brigade’s operations in southern Gaza’s Khan Younis over the past day, during which it says troops killed numerous Hamas operatives and raided the terror group’s sites.

The Givati Brigade in recent days had carried out an offensive with… pic.twitter.com/bLaX8hDdUV

— Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian (@manniefabian) January 24, 2024

The IDF says it has demolished a Hamas tunnel in the central Gaza Strip, which is located just one and a half kilometers from the Israeli border.

The tunnel, found by reservists of the 646th Brigade and combat engineers of the elite Yahalom unit, connects north and southern… pic.twitter.com/2QSejbatIt

— Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian (@manniefabian) January 24, 2024

It's reservists, and what we would consider 'national guard' types of citizen soldiers doing a lot of the hard work in Gaza;

Almost none of these heroes are career soldiers.

They're start-up founders, accountants, mechanics, photographers, real estate brokers, gardeners, importers, teachers - the men of Israel who dropped their lives, homes, businesses, and all other personal aspirations on a… pic.twitter.com/3gtAZ8DdrL

— Malkah Fleisher 🕎 (@MalkahFleisher) January 24, 2024

Battle in Khan Yunis sounds absolutely brutal. I don't see this as a 'last stand' but rather their real second to last line, before the IDF wind up striking forward to the south where Sinwar is holed up surrounded by hostages/slaves.

JFABNRGR said:

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Very intense CQB footage from what looks like apartment or house on at least one entrenched terrorist who has basically entire IDF squad at bay. Right away an IDF soldier is wounded and a grenade comes out on to the floor in front of what looks to be a breached door and does not go off. Appears to be breaching tool on ground in front of door, but door does not match any of the observed doorways that I can tell. Not sure whos grenade it is. IDF on the near side attempt to frag the room but it appears he did not allow cook off and it gets thrown back out at them and goes off. This one may be some type of concussion frag as the IDF wounded guy is bleeding from ear and nose as fragmentary grenades in those conditions could be lethal to both sides. Near side angle tough throw with dominant arm while far side team would have better angle with dominant arm. At least two more go off and seem to be of two different types. The wounded soldier in shock reloads magazine probably on a closed bolt and it does not catch falling out. At one point he is pointing it wo mag in.

LM Cane how about a translation here please?

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/19dr8s1/close_quarters_combat_idf_soldier_getting_wounded/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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Thanks. I am pretty sure that is just the extended footage of some other videos i posted about a week or ten days ago.

there is yelling to "get ready" (moochaneem), "i'm wounded" (ani pigua) "terrorist" (mechabel) "choosal" eliminated

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Battle in Khan Yunis sounds absolutely brutal. I don't see this as a 'last stand' but rather their real second to last line, before the IDF wind up striking forward to the south where Sinwar is holed up surrounded by hostages/slaves.

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My fear is that they have tunnels from Rafah back into Egypt and the Sinai Peninsula so they may never be able to corner Sinwar and the hostages.

nortex97 said:

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Battle in Khan Yunis sounds absolutely brutal. I don't see this as a 'last stand' but rather their real second to last line, before the IDF wind up striking forward to the south where Sinwar is holed up surrounded by hostages/slaves.

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not sure it's any worse in Khan Yunis than it was in Jabaliya, Shejayah or Mughazi

urban combat when the enemy has had 15 years to dig in and prepare tunnels and ambushes in every building and mosque and school

it's frankly miraculous that the IDF is not taking 200 casualties a day having to go house to house and room to room in a city the size of Manhattan.

^
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This.

Defense Minister Yoav Gallant says more than 100 Hamas operatives were captured by Israeli troops in the Gaza Strip in recent days, including some who surrendered after hiding in tunnels.

"Hamas is collapsing into its own tunnels that it painstakingly dug. Every place it thought would be a trap for IDF soldiers becomes an area where we hit it," Gallant says to soldiers of the elite Yahalom combat engineering unit.

Gallant says Hamas has "hundreds of casualties underground" as a result of Yahalom's actions.

"In the past day and a half, we have over 100 captives, some of them who came up from underground, in the Khan Younis area and also in other places, because they realize that they can't fight against the IDF," he says.

Soldiers of the IDF's Paratroopers Brigade have further expanded their activities in southern Gaza's Khan Younis today, the military says, releasing new footage showing Hamas operatives being killed by sniper fire and in close-quarters encounters.

The Paratroopers Brigade are… pic.twitter.com/bxcu8wFLME

— Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian (@manniefabian) January 25, 2024

The IDF found a Hamas document in Gaza in which it was ordered to treat the entire Israeli society as a legitimate target.

“everyone in israel are settlers, and there is no difference between men, women, elderly, and children - all are legitimate targets”pic.twitter.com/Wyb63MCKFR

— Adam Albilya - אדם אלביליה (@AdamAlbilya) January 25, 2024

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13005021/october-genocide-evidence-video-slaughtered-mutilated-hamas-terrorist-israel.html

Disclaimer: I'm sure they edited out the worst parts but video shows the brutality that Hamas committed against civilians.


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This is the horrifying footage of innocent civilians slaughtered and mutilated by Hamas terrorists which Israel presented to the International Court of Justice.

MailOnline has exclusively obtained the sickening video as judges are due to make an interim ruling on alleged genocide by Israel on Friday at The Hague.

It shows terrified Jewish families rounded up like cattle and Palestinian extremists ring their parents to boast of committing atrocities on October 7.

South Africa brought the case to call for an immediate suspension of the invasion of Gaza earlier this month with claims some 25,000 have been killed.


Israel responded by presenting the footage to argue it was itself the victim of an attempted genocide and has a right to defend itself.

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The graphic footage is 7.10 minutes to mark the date of the massacre and mainly comprises of CCTV and images Hamas broadcast off its own body cameras.

An introduction tells how over 3,000 militants 'invaded Israel from the land, sea and air' in over 20 communities near the border and at the Nova music festival in Re'im.

It says Hamas 'slaughtered, tortured, raped, burned alive and mutilated over 1,200 people including infants, children, the elderly and people with disabilities, and kidnapped over 250 people into Gaza'.

Footage then shows Jihadis hurling explosives and screaming 'Allahu Akbar' as they break through the border fence on the morning of October 7.

Under the title 'Invasion' they are seen speeding into Israel in pick-up trucks and firing rocket propelled grenades at civilian cars.

One motorist is shot at point blank range while another is seen sprinting away from the terrorists before he is gunned down, his blood turning the pavement beneath him red.

Much of the images are too graphic to publish including that of a crazed extremist decapitating a civilian with a shovel.

Young Israelis at the Nova music festival are seen dancing at sunrise unaware of Hamas hand gliders looming overhead.

The footage then moves on to a scene titled 'slaughter' that shows the terror rampages at the Kibbutzim.

Bodycam footage shows terrorists gunning down unarmed civilians in their own homes and rounding up mothers and their children.

A terrorist gleefully sets a property alight in one clip before a dog is seen running towards a militant in another where it is brutally gunned down.

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#Gaza map update:

The #IDF has pushed out from Khan Yunis and reached the edge of their previously announced humanitarian safe zone.

There were few changes confirmed elsewhere other than a consolidation of positions by Al Musaddar, northeast of Khan Yunis. pic.twitter.com/wevJNBAeAV

— War Mapper (@War_Mapper) January 25, 2024

need to cut off Rafah now from north and south and then push everyone back north like sifting for gold

I think at this point it is better to get the hostages on the run and fleeing back north in a mass of civilians than stuck in tunnels surrounded by civilians

at least getting Hamas leaders on the move gives the ability to find them easier and eventually target them.

I don't disagree, just not sure how feasible it is to establish some sort of cordoned off strip right at the border to flush them out/north.