Israel/Hamas going at it

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captkirk said:

EskimoJoe said:

JFABNRGR said:

"Hamas says death toll in Gaza rose to 11.000, including over 4.000 children. Doesn't specify how many terrorists killed."

So 11,000 then….seems like a good start.

Crank up those munition making lines!

11,000 current terrorists and supporters, and 4000 future terrorists.
Nip those in the bud
Yeah, it sounds pretty cruel, but I have little sympathy for the Palestinian children. Most of them have already been brainwashed to be future terrorists. Instead of playing Tag or Hide-and-Seek, they play "Stab the Jews".

When the pest control guy comes, I don't tell him "Please don't hurt the innocent baby roaches."
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Are the ~400 civilians that were killed near the hospital by their own faulty rocket included in death numbers?
GAC06
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The death toll from the hospital explosion was always made up
TommyBrady
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All these fatality numbers are made up
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10thYrSr said:

LMCane said:

"Kan KodKod" means "Here is the Commander"
and in the IDF the commanders always lead from the front



"We will win!". Win what? More territory they can't defend?
Exactly what territory has Israel lost to Hamas?

Besides Israel doesn't want Gaza. It is a ****hole, best left to the Palestinians that elected Hamas.
For Israel, and the world,every single Hamas terrorist deaad and every single Hamas sympathizer dead, is a Win.

So far, 10,000 wins, according to Hamas

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The "John Wick" section of Hamas tunnels


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LMCane
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The FAFO actor is all over the social medias in 26 different "atrocity" scenes made up by his team.

and the American media parrots his lies because they are either too stupid and incompetent to check social media and verify their news-

or they are willingly transmitting Hamas propoganda.

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IDF Chief of Staff viewing parts of liberated Gaza City from above is speaking to infantry on the ground- you can see the English subtitles

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nortex97
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Hmm, thx again Joe Biden voters.

This is a good piece:




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Massive and indiscriminate Israeli strikes have caused unprecedented Palestinian casualties. Israeli military casualties are also poised to be high. But here, Hamas may have miscalculated.
Unmet expectations

The second miscalculation came from Hamas's expectation that the "Axis of Resistance" would fully join Deif's "grand plan to end the occupation". This assumes that Iran is genuinely interested in the Palestinian cause rather than using it for its own interests.

What the Ayatollahs in Iran are interested in is their own survival. While their rhetoric about Palestine certainly means they cannot stand on the sidelines of such an era-defining conflict, they will also act in a way that makes sure they are not the return address for any regional escalation.

Iran is generally happy to let its proxies (Iraqis, Yemenis, Syrians, Afghans, Pakistanis) do the dying and take the risks.
Maybe the Iranians are trying to find a way out from this;





Gazans are lovely;





I've been listening to that DW morning brief most mornings the past few weeks, it's pretty good.
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nortex97 said:




Well, it looks like that GATE is behind them, but I don't think that BUILDING is...
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Ag with kids said:



Well, it looks like that GATE is behind them, but I don't think that BUILDING is...
Morale is still high as well
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LMCane said:



Fooled?
Or are they spreading propoganda for Hamas?
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deddog said:

LMCane said:



Fooled?
Or are they spreading propoganda for Hamas?
It's just propaganda for Hamas. "Media demands no attacks near hospitals."

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The head of surgery at Gaza's largest and most advanced hospital held up his phone Saturday to the hammering of gunfire and artillery shelling. "Listen," said Dr. Marwan Abu Sada as fighting raged around Shifa Hospital.

Shells hissed through the hospital courtyard and crashed into wards while Israeli soldiers and Hamas militants locked in close quarters combat. Doctors tried to help patients even as they ran for cover.

Abu Sada described Shifa as a deathtrap for thousands of war-wounded, medical staff and displaced civilians sheltering there. The Israeli military denied it launched direct strikes or placed Shifa under siege.
On the odd but unlikely chance that the AP or anyone else in the liberal media is really interested in an answer to their question, I would like to offer an explanation. They, along with everyone in the Gaza Strip, should be encouraged to sit down and watch an ancient episode from season 2 of M*A*S*H called 5 O'Clock Charlie. In it, the American Army moves an ammunition dump to a location across the camp from the MASH unit. Soon, a rather pathetic North Korean bomber pilot in a sputtering plane begins showing up reliably at 5 pm every day and attempts to drop a shell on the ammo dump, inevitably missing. This causes great distress among the medical staff and the patients. They struggle with the situation until they finally realize the solution. They convince the Army to move the dump elsewhere and then the bomber stops showing up.

Is that ringing a bell for anyone? The IDF is fighting around (and sometimes in) Shifa Hospital because that's where Hamas is. They put their fighters in and around hospitals and it's already been confirmed that there are Hamas tunnels under this hospital. They base their operations there in the hope that Israel will avoid striking them. If the plan works, their fighters live and they can keep funneling supplies through the tunnels. If Israel attacks, civilians inevitably are injured or killed and Hamas is rewarded with headlines blaming Israel. And that's precisely what we're seeing now.

The AP raised what it describes as an "urgent" question. When do medical facilities lose special protection under international humanitarian law? They point out that Israel has provided maps showing that Hamas has a significantly large headquarters set up under Shifa Hospital, but they also keep saying Israel has "provided no evidence" of that. I'm pretty sure the IDF's maps are quite accurate at this point and they know where most of the tunnels are. They also fail to address the fundamental question staring them in the face. If Hamas isn't operating around the hospital, who are all of the people shooting back at the IDF?


There are also racist lies/propaganda out there that this is all about offshore oil/gas fields Israel of course just wants for money. Some evidence toward that absurdity:

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Leviathan has been producing for years… I swear no one does their research.
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EskimoJoe said:

JFABNRGR said:

"Hamas says death toll in Gaza rose to 11.000, including over 4.000 children. Doesn't specify how many terrorists killed."

So 11,000 then….seems like a good start.

Crank up those munition making lines!


11,000 current terrorists and supporters, and 4000 future terrorists.


I honestly think it would be hilarious each time they released propaganda because its all a lie...but some people are actually buying it.

Flat earthers exist because once people believe in something it becomes real to them, even if it is false/fake.


Israel has done a good job countering propaganda however, and I believe a few prominent business moguls have launched a 50mil campaign to counteract hamas lies with Truth.

ETA: Billionaire plots $50M media blitz against Hamas with help of big-name moguls
Barry Sternlicht has raised several million so far for the anti-Hamas media campaign, according to report

https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/billionaire-barry-sternlicht-attempting-organize-million-anti-hamas-media-campaign-report
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Hugh is correct. The bleeding hearts/leftists excoriating Israel not to do anything to the Hamas operations in/around/under hospitals only increases the casualties there to come. Weakness in the face of evil begets suffering and death.

Hamas targets more civilians this am:





Gazan crisis actors have duped many in the west:





Delusional EU chief to visit the Middle East seeking to negotiate with Hamas/PA for a 'two state solution' despite their clear, repeated statements this is unacceptable;



Hamas original plan was to push through to West Bank on O7.
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nortex97 said:



Well...those OTHER guys we send out there that pursue martyrdom. Not US hiding away from the fighting - we don't want that martyrdom stuff.
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It's not hard. All he needs to do is post his location and the Mossad will fulfill his martyrdom dreams.
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maybe someone should ask the media who are simply regurgitating Hamas propaganda:

"how is there a siege of a hospital-

unless someone is fighting and preventing the Israelis from just walking right on in?"
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The Cyprus One Click website with the camera from southern Gaza was insane over the weekend with non-stop combat.

It must have been overrun by the IDF advance to where they turned off the camera- now they have moved to Sderot which is inside of Israel and the feed is not so great because it is far away from Gaza City.

Speak the Truth podcast was live streaming about this yesterday.
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nortex97
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Most Gazans approve of both Hamas, and the O7 raid. It's a hidden/ignored/lied about truth to our resident Gazan/"Palestinian" defenders.

In fact, note that it was the many gazan workers who travelled across the border daily to Israel on work permits who provided the detailed maps of the towns raided, including where dogs were, how many people lived in each building, etc. They are taught from cradle to grave to hate all jews/infidels.
LMCane
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Pallywood strikes again!

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yesterday in Gaza City
Ag87H2O
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LMCane said:


Ok jacka**, if you're so tough and brave and ready to martyr yourself why don't you take off that mask that covers your face? Scared of what the Israelis would do when they locate you?

Barbaric, big mouthed cowards playing tough guy.
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b''h they both manage to survive this war:

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[Keep derailing and your bans will increase in length -- Staff]
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[Ditto -- Staff]
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[Ditto -- Staff]
LMCane
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You can see towards the end of the clip once the Blackhawk makes it's way back to Ashkelon or Tel Aviv

that the guy in the middle has a patch saying "ROFEH" in Hebrew which is doctor.

so they actually send doctors out in their Medevacs into Gaza City now.

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