I would hope to God we would not restrain and rain helll on all involved....
do what you need to do Israel.....
aggiehawg said:By aligning with the West, Israel crosses itself out. As Ukraine did a little earlier. The countries that are aligned with the West are finished. Even if not right away, but pretty soon" 2/2
— Giorgi Revishvili (@revishvilig) October 12, 2023
Soviets were saying the same thing since 1948. They haven't changed a bit.
chickencoupe16 said:C@LAg said:hamas is not made up of the best and brightest.chickencoupe16 said:
Seems to not add up. Maps? Okay, sure. Reminders to make sure to kill, rape, and kidnap as many as possible? Seems pretty straightforward. Why would you need reminders?
You're certainly right, but I think kill, rape, capture seem to be easily grasped. Pretty succinct commander's intent. The capture part is probably the only one that needs much reinforcing at all.
DEfinitely heard it on the CAM and thought that was off, first time i've ever heard a chopper, but i'm assuming it was a very targeted strike, like an apartment in a skyscraper using a Spike or somethingAgthatbuilds said:Airstrike by #IDF chopper, northwestern #Gaza
— Aleph א (@no_itsmyturn) October 13, 2023
bonfarr said:nortex97 said:Mostly right but just to add to the political complexity the muslim brotherhood essentially begat/shot off Hamas as a political entity and they tried to support Morsi of course before the military put Al Sisi back in power in Egypt. The Palestinians have also been used as pawns for 70+ years; Arafat was told what to do by the Arab power brokers, who benefit from using the "cause" to keep their ignoramus power bases enraged/on their side.LMCane said:JFABNRGR said:Don't those countries use temporary workers from several regions around the world?Mathguy64 said:Get back to me when the Qatari offer to resettle the Palestinians in Qatar. They could fly them all in and set every refugee all up in housing tomorrow.45-70Ag said:🔥🚨BREAKING: Qatar is threatening to create a global gas shortage in support of Palestine. "If the bombing of Gaza doesn't stop, we will stop gas supply of the world." pic.twitter.com/MOR8M9xE3d
— Dom Lucre | Breaker of Narratives (@dom_lucre) October 13, 2023
Egypt could open the Sinai to all of them and set up huge temporary camps to care for the general population while the combat takes place. But they have refused. They have offered to send IN aid but they refused to let anyone OUT. The Sauds could do the same. Offer to resettle anyone who wants into northern SA for a refugee camp. And they won't.
For the last 80 years any one of these other nations could have generously made this offer and they haven't. And in the last 20 plus years the Qatari or Sauds certainly would have had the financial means and infrastructure to make this happen. Like it or not no one wants this group of people in their own country.
To be fair the Palestinians in Gaza don't want to leave. But they don't have a choice because no one else wants them.
Completely agree, but to them palestinians are a scourge and I never knew the history as to why.
Anybody have the cliff notes on this?
You are inquiring as to why the other Arabs dislike the Palestinians?
because the PLO tried to overthrow Jordan in 1970, they tried to overthrow Lebanon from 1976-82
because the Palestinians refuse every peace deal since 1936, because they kill and rape and pillage and are bad for business and bad for the Gulf monarchies
and the Palestinians sided with Saddam Hussein and the ISIS in the last 20 years.
Also have to keep in mind some of the tribal nature of the arab factions (Saudi's, the Emirati's, Jordanians etc.). Layer that on with the Shia vs. Sunni parts (Hezbollah and Iran being the Shia mainly, but also 25% of Iraq, Iranians being Persian and not arab), and you have a lot of that stuff that makes them all also hate and distrust each other. Yemen is also a civil war between arab clients (shia for Iran and Wahhabists etc. allied with Saudi's).
Nothing, and I mean nothing at all is ever what it seems in the Middle East. Jewish politics are also every bit as complex in Israel and mystify me although I think again they are clearly the 'good guys' in this one. If you want to the add a final layer of Byzantine complexity think about how the Brits screwed up the area deliberately after WW1 and 2 and then how our own idiocy in gulf war's 1 and 2 also wound up being largely counterproductive to any resolution, before even John F Kerry and Valerie Jarrett's big brains got involved.
This article is a pretty good summary of why the Arabs dislike the Palestinians.
https://besacenter.org/do-arabs-hate-palestinians/
Rossticus said:AgDotCom said:
Kind of amazing the way the nations are aligning as prophesied millennia ago in the Ezekiel 38 war.
We have Russia and Iran already in the picture. If Sudan, Turkey, Libya and a couple of the -stans come on board.............game on.
Russian ideologues certainly aren't playing coy with where they stand on Israel.By aligning with the West, Israel crosses itself out. As Ukraine did a little earlier. The countries that are aligned with the West are finished. Even if not right away, but pretty soon" 2/2
— Giorgi Revishvili (@revishvilig) October 12, 2023
zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
Broncos said:zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
Welcome to darkness
https://www.youtube.com/live/L67KCD3inM0?si=vuseYGfg_j-goud0
Mine has been down too. Hmm.zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
Sharpshooter said:Mine has been down too. Hmm.zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
Amen.Nitro Power said:
Lord Jesus please be with these soldiers and protect the truly innocent.
zgolfz85 said:Broncos said:zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
Welcome to darkness
https://www.youtube.com/live/L67KCD3inM0?si=vuseYGfg_j-goud0
Weird says video unavailable
deddog said:Sharpshooter said:Mine has been down too. Hmm.zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
This has been working for me
Thank you. It is the one I was on Glitch, I guess.deddog said:Sharpshooter said:Mine has been down too. Hmm.zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
This has been working for me
deddog said:Sharpshooter said:Mine has been down too. Hmm.zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
This has been working for me
Are you guys in a browser that's blocking ads? i had to switch from Brave to Chrome to get it to work. I got warnings about YouTube does not allow Pop Up blockers so maybe that's what's happening?zgolfz85 said:deddog said:Sharpshooter said:Mine has been down too. Hmm.zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
This has been working for me
Weird, even on Texags it says video unavailable and I can't even click on it
chickencoupe16 said:nortex97 said:
Yes that's very good, I forgot to even note (partially for brevity) the role of the UN agencies, or Syria even. I'm sure there are some good books out there about why everyone basically hates the 'Palestinian refugees.'
Sorry everyone else, I'll try not to derail this further on the history…
One thing that is timeless, is that the Hamas/Palestinians are actually pretty bad at propaganda:— Kathleen McKinley (@KatMcKinley) October 13, 2023BREAKING: Hamas intentionally targeted elementary schools in Israel, instructed terrorists to seize hostages, move them into Gaza, and to "kill as many people as possible," maps and documents recovered from the bodies of attackers show. https://t.co/UL0vlypmrh
— NBC News (@NBCNews) October 13, 2023
Seems to not add up. Maps? Okay, sure. Reminders to make sure to kill, rape, and kidnap as many as possible? Seems pretty straightforward. Why would you need reminders?
deddog said:Are you guys in a browser that's blocking ads? i had to switch from Brave to Chrome to get it to work. I got warnings about YouTube does not allow Pop Up blockers so maybe that's what's happening?zgolfz85 said:deddog said:Sharpshooter said:Mine has been down too. Hmm.zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
This has been working for me
Weird, even on Texags it says video unavailable and I can't even click on it
God bless Bibi and his troups.Nitro Power said:
A little too quiet
I am using Brave. Youtube is rolling out a ban on all AD blockers, its been in the works for months. They are slow rolling it with warnings for now. When you see a warning you can close it and proceed as normal.deddog said:Are you guys in a browser that's blocking ads? i had to switch from Brave to Chrome to get it to work. I got warnings about YouTube does not allow Pop Up blockers so maybe that's what's happening?zgolfz85 said:deddog said:Sharpshooter said:Mine has been down too. Hmm.zgolfz85 said:
Lost the live feed…anyone wanna hook a brotha up?
This has been working for me
Weird, even on Texags it says video unavailable and I can't even click on it
not anymore holy crap thats loud and close!!!Nitro Power said:
A little too quiet
Agthatbuilds said:
Unfortunately, it will only galvanize them.
Rossticus said:13 October: an expert in ground operations Vladimir Putin is warning against the ground operation in Gaza as this will lead to serious consequences for both sides. Calls for an immediate ceasefire. pic.twitter.com/6XDDTVm5Pq
— Dmitri (@wartranslated) October 13, 2023