Israel/Hamas going at it

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In reply to Andrew Dufresne • 11:18a, 10/9/23
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Andrew Dufresne said:
So you're saying these children are inherently evil.


Their parents and religion are. Unless you have a plan to mass deport them then they will be part of the problem.
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In reply to AggieUSMC • 11:21a, 10/9/23
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aggiehawg said:
This isn't just Hamas members. It is the people of Gaza.

We need to bring back carpet bombing. Turn Gaza into a parking lot.


I generally agree. Need to take into account what will happen to all those displaced - specifically don't give Palestinians refugee status over here or let them set up over here. You'd probably get a flood of refugees into Europe and other places though and that's where this plan gets problematic… lots of pissed off Palestinian all over the place.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:21a, 10/9/23
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Give them a set time to leave and migrate to who cares and then tear it down brick by brick.
I still have doubts as where any of these Gazans can go? Unless Egypt sets up massive refugee (for lack of a better term) camps in the Sinai, where will they go?

Ships that go from port to port only to be denied entry, such as what happened with the MS St Louis in 1939?

Which country would take them? Iran? Doubtful.


Those are valid points, but if you want an actual solution, this is it. Then not knowing where they'll end up has happened to countless peoples throughout history.

They'll be fine or they won't, but for them to stay means the next time will be as much the fault of whoever lets then stay as it will be theirs.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:22a, 10/9/23
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They can go to Egypt and Jordan. Should have been sent a long time ago.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 11:23a, 10/9/23
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WTH! There is something severely wrong with the leadership @ Harvard. That is the most disgusting vile of statements regarding the atrocities Hamas is committing.

The Democratic Party leadership, the MSM and the minions in the bureaucracies will not respond or if they do they will join the ranks of these moral savages.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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In reply to DeangeloVickers • 11:24a, 10/9/23
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DeangeloVickers said:
Partied to hard at yesterday's Bar BQ?


What a ****ing potato.
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In reply to Andrew Dufresne • 11:25a, 10/9/23
Andrew Dufresne said:
So you're saying these children are inherently evil.


Some folks make a declaration of which sorts of people, countries and religion are acceptable and which are not. Those deemed unacceptable are classified as evildoers whose corpses must be stacked.

Israel's arrogance since its formation / reformation has culpability in the continued violence. The land on which Israel sits has been disputed and changed hands many times over the millennia. Palestinians have a very legitimate claim to the territory and were essentially put on a reservation following WWI and then absolutely following WWII.

I do not condone nor defend their methods and terroristic attacks. But it's not correct for people to just label them as evildoers with no basis for their violence.

Not going to derail, but you can absolutely attribute the ongoing conflict in Israel on what the Brits did following WWI. Happy to defend that statement on another thread but it is not false information.
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In reply to Build It • 11:26a, 10/9/23
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Build It said:
They can go to Egypt and Jordan. Should have been sent a long time ago.
They can? Last I saw the border between Gaza and Egypt in the Sinai was closed?
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In reply to Anti-taxxer • 11:26a, 10/9/23
Highly likely anything Biden says on this will make things worse. We should celebrate anytime he and other Dems decide to STFU, including Pelosi, Blinken, Obama and others.
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11:26a, 10/9/23
The US is a corrupt nation infiltrated by enemy countries.

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In reply to fka ftc • 11:28a, 10/9/23
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Highly likely anything Biden says on this will make things worse. We should celebrate anytime he and other Dems decide to STFU, including Pelosi, Blinken, Obama and others.


Seeing as how he looks so drugged that he's only able to speak for a few minutes at a time, yes, now is not the time for him to have a blunder.
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In reply to fka ftc • 11:32a, 10/9/23
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Losing wars has consequences. The Arabs came after Israel with all they had in 1948. The Jews won, they came again in 67', the Jews won. The Jews will win again in 23'.
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11:34a, 10/9/23
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Israel's arrogance in wanting to simply exist without their citizens constantly being slaughtered sure is the problem here.
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In reply to Definitely Not A Cop • 11:35a, 10/9/23
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Israel's arrogance in wanting to simply exist without their citizens constantly being slaughtered sure is the problem here.


Palestinians have no right to exist?
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11:37a, 10/9/23
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11:38a, 10/9/23
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Tons and tons of reports on LiveUaMap about raids, bombings, missile strikes, and more happening in Gaza and on the border with Lebanon.
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In reply to [removed post] • 11:38a, 10/9/23
Bregxit said:
BlueSmoke said:
Proposition Joe said:


I don't think it's as much underestimating them -- I think in the current climate we've basically come to accept terrible **** can easily happen on US soil.
They're already in almost every major city - the cartels. Their infrastructure is established across almost every major metropolitan market. They don't need rockets and rifles. They could taint product on a global scale and kill millions with fentanyl tomorrow and we wouldn't even know where to begin with a reprisal. That's before attacks could materialize


Just thinking aloud here...if the cartels were dumb enough to decide to kill off millions of their user base, would that be such a bad thing? It would drastically reduce our drug use problem and put the cartel out of the drug business. Win win.
It would be the nuclear option for sure. Point is they are already here. As for cash flow, trafficking and mining already surpass drug revenues. Cut the head off of one snake.....
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In reply to fka ftc • 11:38a, 10/9/23
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fka ftc said:
Definitely Not A Cop said:
Israel's arrogance in wanting to simply exist without their citizens constantly being slaughtered sure is the problem here.


Palestinians have no right to exist?


Not what I said. No need to shift your terrible argument.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:39a, 10/9/23
aggiehawg said:
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Give them a set time to leave and migrate to who cares and then tear it down brick by brick.
I still have doubts as where any of these Gazans can go? Unless Egypt sets up massive refugee (for lack of a better term) camps in the Sinai, where will they go?

Ships that go from port to port only to be denied entry, such as what happened with the MS St Louis in 1939?

Which country would take them? Iran? Doubtful.
The Gazans and the Palestinians are the ME's equivalent to hood rats over here - nobody REALLY wants them in their country, but there are a useful bludgeon to show how horribly they are treated so long as they stay in the Hood.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:40a, 10/9/23
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Build It said:
They can go to Egypt and Jordan. Should have been sent a long time ago.
They can? Last I saw the border between Gaza and Egypt in the Sinai was closed?
If so, then they are in a pickle. Their choice is stand and fight or invade a neighboring country like they just did. I just hope Israel kills anything and everything in Gaza and they can choose their response as Israel does so.
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In reply to richardag • 11:41a, 10/9/23
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richardag said:
Agthatbuilds said:


WTH! There is something severely wrong with the leadership @ Harvard. That is the most disgusting vile of statements regarding the atrocities Hamas is committing.

The Democratic Party leadership, the MSM and the minions in the bureaucracies will not respond or if they do they will join the ranks of these moral savages.
There is a very clear battle of good and evil in the world right now. Universities are a tool of evil.
2+2=5
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 11:41a, 10/9/23
Agthatbuilds said:
If these are true, and I believe the are, the should be shown in the House of Representatives and the Senate. The videos need to be entered into the record showing the utter insanity of the fundamentalist Islamic psychopaths. These are barbaric and everyone involved need to be held accountable for their actions.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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11:41a, 10/9/23
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Unfortunately, there will be no "innocents" in this deal IMHO.... only survivors and the dead. Israel does not have the ability to protect their country and "innocents" simultaneously. That's what war is.
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In reply to fka ftc • 11:41a, 10/9/23
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fka ftc said:
Definitely Not A Cop said:
Israel's arrogance in wanting to simply exist without their citizens constantly being slaughtered sure is the problem here.


Palestinians have no right to exist?


Not if they continue to act they way they do. Animals should be treated like animals.
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In reply to fka ftc • 11:42a, 10/9/23
fka ftc said:
Definitely Not A Cop said:
Israel's arrogance in wanting to simply exist without their citizens constantly being slaughtered sure is the problem here.


Palestinians have no right to exist?
They just voided their right to exist in Gaza.

If you seriously believe Israel should just sit back and take it, then there really isn't much more to say here.

The best advice I can give to those savages is to follow Israel's advice and make their way to the UN camps where they will be unharmed.

Get in the way and Israel is not responsible for the consequences.

Two state solution is over. Living peacefully alongside each other is over as well.

There is no negotiation here, not after what this trash did this weekend.



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In reply to Claverack • 11:44a, 10/9/23
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Completely agree.

Tell them to get out and unleash hell.
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In reply to Teslag • 11:44a, 10/9/23
Teslag said:
fka ftc said:
Definitely Not A Cop said:
Israel's arrogance in wanting to simply exist without their citizens constantly being slaughtered sure is the problem here.


Palestinians have no right to exist?


Not if they continue to act they way they do. Animals should be treated like animals.


I actually agree with you on that. The ones initiating, carrying out and supporting such terroristic attacks should be eliminated.
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In reply to fka ftc • 11:45a, 10/9/23
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fka ftc said:
Teslag said:
fka ftc said:
Definitely Not A Cop said:
Israel's arrogance in wanting to simply exist without their citizens constantly being slaughtered sure is the problem here.


Palestinians have no right to exist?


Not if they continue to act they way they do. Animals should be treated like animals.


I actually agree with you on that. The ones initiating, carrying out and supporting such terroristic attacks should be eliminated.


And unfortunately that is the whole of Gaza. Raze it into the sea.
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In reply to halfastros81 • 11:46a, 10/9/23
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halfastros81 said:
They don't need a green light from anyone.


Yes they do, once they move into Gaza the media and west will turn on them snd say they need to show restraint
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In reply to Old May Banker • 11:47a, 10/9/23
Old May Banker said:
Completely agree.

Tell them to get out and unleash hell.
It is the only way.

Israel has put up with much since 1948. It extended its hand in friendship, only to be repeatedly invaded by the swine who live next to them.

They gave the Palestinians land, only to see them desecrate the graves of their ancestors and install missile units upon the land given them.

They continually respond to attack after attack after the fact. Never the instigator and always the responder.

This time, however, will be different. This has to end now and not in a way favorable to the scum who live in Gaza.



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11:48a, 10/9/23
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Flagged for derailing by continuing to gaslight what I clearly said.
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In reply to HowdyTAMU • 11:50a, 10/9/23
HowdyTAMU said:
The EU is a disaster and many countries are about to see some of the issues they've created for themselves.
Already happened when Paris was burning.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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11:51a, 10/9/23
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Has Hezbollah released a statement? This could be big
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11:54a, 10/9/23
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Gaza in its current form is built for the purpose of anti-Israel propaganda and terrorism. Like the left uses the inner city war zones as permanent reason to be in power, the "oppressed" Palestinians make for talking points and for soldiers. It's corrupt to the core and there is no desire for anyone that is in control for them to be a successful people. No one around them wants them for that very reason. It breeds violence and hate by design and they want to make sure it is directed at the non-Islamic state.
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