A tentative agreement has been reached between the Writers Guild of America and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, the labor union announced Sunday night.
Writers Guild of America reaches tentative agreement with Hollywood studios, suspends picketing

https://www.foxbusiness.com/entertainment/writers-guild-america-reaches-tentative-agreement-hollywood-studios-suspends-picketing

There was a strike?

Same **** quality as before. Never noticed.

Thank God.

This was definitely something that needed more prioritization in America!

GO HOLLYWOOD!

Great, now our movies and tv shows will suck even more.

The actors are still on strike so won't get anything back into production anytime soon.

Great! They can now resume writing their American-hating tripe.

If the writers went on strike and nobody noticed, does it matter?

BigRobSA said:

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There was a strike?

Same **** quality as before. Never noticed.

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But now you can spend more for it, I'm sure!

The writers maybe realized how utterly replaceable they are.

DrEvazanPhD said:

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If the writers went on strike and nobody noticed, does it matter?

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I guess the studios noticed, if it brought them to the table.

My understanding this mostly centered around medical benefits. Writers, along with most of the other functions/jobs in the entertainment industry are 1099.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

Kenneth_2003 said:

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My understanding this mostly centered around medical benefits. Writers, along with most of the other functions/jobs in the entertainment industry are 1099.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

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They need ditch digger's in Cali that probably have health insurance too! I'm just saying.

Kenneth_2003 said:

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My understanding this mostly centered around medical benefits. Writers, along with most of the other functions/jobs in the entertainment industry are 1099.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

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Of course, the very nature of their jobs makes it likely that they would be 1099 employees.

Who is going to hire a huge staff of writers and make them W-2 employees? No companies out there really need a STAFF of writers. They need writers as projects come up.

And the writers LIKE THAT. They would HATE being just employees who do the 9-5 job (or whatever hours they work).

Shoefly! said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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My understanding this mostly centered around medical benefits. Writers, along with most of the other functions/jobs in the entertainment industry are 1099.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

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They need ditch digger's in Cali that probably have health insurance too! I'm just saying.

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Learn to code...

MouthBQ98 said:

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The writers maybe realized how utterly replaceable they are.

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All Hollywood studios need is A.I. computers to "translate" British shows and they will be alright.

BigRobSA said:

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There was a strike?

Same **** quality as before. Never noticed.

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Until I read about it on here I didn't know it was happening. But good for someone about something because they got who cares.

Yay! We all have a tidal wave of "fresh" anti-Trump content to look forward to from the late night "comedy" shows. Happy happy! Joy joy!

Kenneth_2003 said:

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My understanding this mostly centered around medical benefits. Writers, along with most of the other functions/jobs in the entertainment industry are 1099.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

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I think the actors have a sweetheart deal where SAG covers their health insurance. I know of one Texas-based actor who works just enough Hollywood-related jobs to keep his SAG membership current.

Actual Talking Thermos said:

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DrEvazanPhD said:

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If the writers went on strike and nobody noticed, does it matter?

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I guess the studios noticed, if it brought them to the table.

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Or maybe the writers couldn't make enough money at their side hustle barista jobs

Rapier108 said:

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The actors are still on strike so won't get anything back into production anytime soon.

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I thought the actors only went on strike to support the writers?

torrid said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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My understanding this mostly centered around medical benefits. Writers, along with most of the other functions/jobs in the entertainment industry are 1099.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

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I think the actors have a sweetheart deal where SAG covers their health insurance. I know of one Texas-based actor who works just enough Hollywood-related jobs to keep his SAG membership current.

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I heard something along those lines and that's what the writers were wanting I think.

Again no dog in the fight.

torrid said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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My understanding this mostly centered around medical benefits. Writers, along with most of the other functions/jobs in the entertainment industry are 1099.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

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I think the actors have a sweetheart deal where SAG covers their health insurance. I know of one Texas-based actor who works just enough Hollywood-related jobs to keep his SAG membership current.

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They have to make at least $26,470 in annual compensation through acting work or work a minimum of 102 eligible days to qualify for health insurance. I read something like 86% of SAG/AFTRA members do not meet that threshold and have to obtain health insurance through other employment or the ACA.

https://www.sagaftraplans.org/health/eligibility/earned-eligibility

If those morons didn't vote for liberal policies over and over, then perhaps they could earn a living with their rightful wage.

Rapier108 said:

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The actors are still on strike so won't get anything back into production anytime soon.

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I thought the actors just went on strike to show "solidarity" with the writers union. They'll probably get back to work now that the writers strike is over.

It wasn't just medical.

A huge problem for the writers was that their residual payments were not accounting for streaming services. The prior contract was negotiated before streaming services really took off.

Not a Bot said:

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It wasn't just medical.

A huge problem for the writers was that their residual payments were not accounting for streaming services. The prior contract was negotiated before streaming services really took off.

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"We're not gonna pay you for your work on media properties if people consume it the way people overwhelmingly consume media" does seem like it would be a dealbreaker.

Ag with kids said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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My understanding this mostly centered around medical benefits. Writers, along with most of the other functions/jobs in the entertainment industry are 1099.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

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Of course, the very nature of their jobs makes it likely that they would be 1099 employees.

Who is going to hire a huge staff of writers and make them W-2 employees? No companies out there really need a STAFF of writers. They need writers as projects come up.

And the writers LIKE THAT. They would HATE being just employees who do the 9-5 job (or whatever hours they work).

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That's why newsom made gig workers illegal a few years back. Part of why I left.

AggieUSMC said:

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Rapier108 said:

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The actors are still on strike so won't get anything back into production anytime soon.

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I thought the actors just went on strike to show "solidarity" with the writers union. They'll probably get back to work now that the writers strike is over.

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Its a separate strike.

Not a Bot said:

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It wasn't just medical.

A huge problem for the writers was that their residual payments were not accounting for streaming services. The prior contract was negotiated before streaming services really took off.

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If that is how they are paid, residuals, then I'm a bit on the writers' side here.

Writers first struck in the 1950s when they were not getting residuals from movies being shown on TV. They then struck again in the 1980s for the same reason with videotape. The last strike was around 2008, I believe? Again a bone of contention was residuals from online, but streaming as we know still wasn't defined as we now know it.

If they are going to be paid by residuals, the technology or platform used should not preclude that.

Wouldn't it be great if the networks realized that no one really missed their late night talk shows?

Kenneth_2003 said:

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My understanding this mostly centered around medical benefits. Writers, along with most of the other functions/jobs in the entertainment industry are 1099.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

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I thought Obamacare solved the insurance issue for everyone?

The funny thing from my perspective is that I honestly didn't remember it was going on until they other day an idea hit me - "shouldn't Stranger Things final season be out by now?"

Google informed me it was delayed as a casualty. My disappointment lasted, I don't know, 30 seconds? Maybe?

I would equate the emotional impact somewhere around the same as my kid eating something I was saving in the fridge.

Ryan the Temp said:

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torrid said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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My understanding this mostly centered around medical benefits. Writers, along with most of the other functions/jobs in the entertainment industry are 1099.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

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I think the actors have a sweetheart deal where SAG covers their health insurance. I know of one Texas-based actor who works just enough Hollywood-related jobs to keep his SAG membership current.

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They have to make at least $26,470 in annual compensation through acting work or work a minimum of 102 eligible days to qualify for health insurance. I read something like 86% of SAG/AFTRA members do not meet that threshold and have to obtain health insurance through other employment or the ACA.

https://www.sagaftraplans.org/health/eligibility/earned-eligibility

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The minimum for writers is $41,773 per ever 4 quarters. If you don't make it by the 4th quarter (let's say you it that deal in the 5th quarter) then you have to wait a quarter for it to kick in again.

What's more frustrating is that studios are notorious for reporting late. So even if you make that money or sign a contract that would get you over the minimum, until it's reported you don't qualify. What ends up happening is that you lose coverage and once the studio finally reports your earnings, the insurance kicks in but it is applied retroactively.

So if I have to qualify in July to keep my coverage (and I do) but the studio doesn't report the earnings until September, my year of coverage doesn't start in September. It starts retroactively on August 1st. It just means having to pay out of pocket for that time and hope that I get reimbursed.

That's only a small part of many of the issues