If you discount democrat cheating, this poll seems believable. Joe Biden has been a nightmare for this country.

I cant wait for Newsome to get in the race. Then we will see some fun polls.

TexAgs91 said:

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If you discount democrat cheating, this poll seems believable. Joe Biden has been a nightmare for this country.

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Likely why they are now undermining their own poll.

THose numbers definitely do NOT reflect ballot printing, 3am pipe bursts, counting by Dems only behind closed doors whilst poll watchers are locked outside, and statistically inexplicable voting results.

aggie93 said:

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BTW, the polls also show that is/when Trump is convicted his numbers fall through the floor and especially with Independents. Won't matter how ridiculous the charges are btw. People may think Trump is being unfairly prosecuted but they also believe he likely broke some laws. His behavior and lying doesn't help.

I guess we can FAFO though and just yell "They cheated!" again instead of running someone that actually appeals to voters that don't want a cartoon character pushing 80 loaded with baggage. He also has no money in his campaign, still has his surrogates calling for DeSantis to drop out and give him his money.

Dems and MSM are just praying we are this stupid.

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One could argue that the DOJ charging Menendez and Hunter, albeit this one kicking and screaming, makes it seem less likely that Trump's prosecution is unfair to independent voters.

Not just Joe Biden, Democrats have been a disaster for this country

fka ftc said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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If you discount democrat cheating, this poll seems believable. Joe Biden has been a nightmare for this country.

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Likely why they are now undermining their own poll.

THose numbers definitely do NOT reflect ballot printing, 3am pipe bursts, counting by Dems only behind closed doors whilst poll watchers are locked outside, and statistically inexplicable voting results.

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For the sake of argument, let's say the poll is true and the election ends up with Trump winning the popular vote 54%-46% (no third party candidate of note).

There would be no way Democrats could manufacture enough fraud to win the electoral college. An 8-10 point popular vote win is well outside the margin of fraud.

It isn't going to happen, and this poll is bunk, but the fraud the Democrats use works when it is close.

If you believe this poll, I have some ocean front property in Amarillo to sell you.

It's truly comical to read the desperation on these threads! The acrobatics and pretzel twisting are amazing.

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LOL...Trump's not giving up anything. Trump has never gone without....and wouldn't have run for office if there wasn't a huge upside for himself. His entire personality and career are built on 'What's in it for me?". But people still treat him like a messiah.

I mean if you want to believe this is reality, ok.

There are only two categories I could see Trump having higher support than 2020, outside of normal statistical fluctuation, rural and men.

Still not anywhere close to what this poll claims.

And the 2022 exit polls weren't much different than 2020.

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I mean if you want to believe this is reality, ok.

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It's the suburban vote that doomed Trump in 2020. And from what I see and hear that divide has only gotten worse with his antics over the last two years.

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aggie93 said:

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I mean if you want to believe this is reality, ok.

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It's the suburban vote that doomed Trump in 2020. And from what I see and hear that divide has only gotten worse with his antics over the last two years.

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No way dude, I mean these polls are saying they LOVE Trump now and Suburban types just can't wait to vote with him along with young people and minorities. If Trump could just be a little more crude on Truth Social and maybe get arrested a few more times he will lock this thing up!

Sounds like some folks getting really nervous.

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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aggie93 said:

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I mean if you want to believe this is reality, ok.

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It's the suburban vote that doomed Trump in 2020. And from what I see and hear that divide has only gotten worse with his antics over the last two years.

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No way dude, I mean these polls are saying they LOVE Trump now and Suburban types just can't wait to vote with him along with young people and minorities. If Trump could just be a little more crude on Truth Social and maybe get arrested a few more times he will lock this thing up!

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Agree. Even Laura Loomer thinks this poll is bull*****

I'll always go back to this point -

Trump supporters will shout from the rooftops of how Liberals manipulate everything.

Libs manipulated polls in 2015 & 2016 to show Clinton leading by huge numbers. Libs manipulate media coverage. Libs manipulate the legal system. Libs manipulate legislative actions. Libs manipulate election outcomes. Libs even manipulate world agendas.

Yet somehow random polls in 2023 are the last secure thing in the world that Libs haven't figured out how to manipulate. Somehow there's just no way that Liberals have figured out they can make Trump the nominee simply by manipulating polls to convince Republicans that Trump is unbeatable and loved by everybody. For some reason when it comes to polls conducted by Liberal sources the Liberals are full of integrity and wouldn't manipulate those polls to get the outcome they want.

Sure. Lol.

FL_Ag1998 said:

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I'll always go back to this point -

Trump supporters will shout from the rooftops of how Liberals manipulate everything.

Libs manipulated polls in 2015 & 2016 to show Clinton leading by huge numbers. Libs manipulate media coverage. Libs manipulate the legal system. Libs manipulate legislative actions. Libs manipulate election outcomes. Libs even manipulate world agendas.

Yet somehow random polls in 2023 are the last secure thing in the world that Libs haven't figured out how to manipulate. Somehow there's just no way that Liberals have figured out they can make Trump the nominee simply by manipulating polls to convince Republicans that Trump is unbeatable and loved by everybody. For some reason when it comes to polls conducted by Liberal sources the Liberals are full of integrity and wouldn't manipulate those polls to get the outcome they want.

Sure. Lol.

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Literally no one on this entire thread except for the DeSantis dreamers are thinking like this.

You are tilting at a windmill with your faux horse thinking that any Trump supporter is seeing this poll and thinking its total legit and Trump is preparing to waltz to victory.

Hell, I even pointed out that WaPo & ABC are pulling back and calling it an outlier.

Question is, why is the DeSantis crew vomiting all over this thread talking about Trump supporters - and not just talking but trying to get in some digs on what "Trumpers" shout from rooftops.

fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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I'll always go back to this point -

Trump supporters will shout from the rooftops of how Liberals manipulate everything.

Libs manipulated polls in 2015 & 2016 to show Clinton leading by huge numbers. Libs manipulate media coverage. Libs manipulate the legal system. Libs manipulate legislative actions. Libs manipulate election outcomes. Libs even manipulate world agendas.

Yet somehow random polls in 2023 are the last secure thing in the world that Libs haven't figured out how to manipulate. Somehow there's just no way that Liberals have figured out they can make Trump the nominee simply by manipulating polls to convince Republicans that Trump is unbeatable and loved by everybody. For some reason when it comes to polls conducted by Liberal sources the Liberals are full of integrity and wouldn't manipulate those polls to get the outcome they want.

Sure. Lol.

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Literally no one on this entire thread except for the DeSantis dreamers are thinking like this.

You are tilting at a windmill with your faux horse thinking that any Trump supporter is seeing this poll and thinking its total legit and Trump is preparing to waltz to victory.

Hell, I even pointed out that WaPo & ABC are pulling back and calling it an outlier.

Question is, why is the DeSantis crew vomiting all over this thread talking about Trump supporters - and not just talking but trying to get in some digs on what "Trumpers" shout from rooftops.

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Trump has campaign people out saying DeSantis should just drop out and give Trump all his money (while Loomer is saying DeSantis is broke, lol). All they do is talk polls.

fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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I'll always go back to this point -

Trump supporters will shout from the rooftops of how Liberals manipulate everything.

Libs manipulated polls in 2015 & 2016 to show Clinton leading by huge numbers. Libs manipulate media coverage. Libs manipulate the legal system. Libs manipulate legislative actions. Libs manipulate election outcomes. Libs even manipulate world agendas.

Yet somehow random polls in 2023 are the last secure thing in the world that Libs haven't figured out how to manipulate. Somehow there's just no way that Liberals have figured out they can make Trump the nominee simply by manipulating polls to convince Republicans that Trump is unbeatable and loved by everybody. For some reason when it comes to polls conducted by Liberal sources the Liberals are full of integrity and wouldn't manipulate those polls to get the outcome they want.

Sure. Lol.

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Literally no one on this entire thread except for the DeSantis dreamers are thinking like this.

You are tilting at a windmill with your faux horse thinking that any Trump supporter is seeing this poll and thinking its total legit and Trump is preparing to waltz to victory.

Hell, I even pointed out that WaPo & ABC are pulling back and calling it an outlier.

Question is, why is the DeSantis crew vomiting all over this thread talking about Trump supporters - and not just talking but trying to get in some digs on what "Trumpers" shout from rooftops.

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The OP of this thread is doing just that. He believes the poll is true. If it was Biden 52-42, then it would be declared fake news by the same people who currently believe it.

The ones calling it bull**** are the DeSantis supporters because we still use critical thinking, not emotional attachment to Trump.

Maybe this has been covered already but Dick Morris writes that old pro and colleague George Stephanopoulos has skewed the WAPO poll of 10 pts in favor of Trump in order to get the Dems to dump Biden. It is a coup de gra against Biden. He is not doing it because he wants Trump to be the nominee and easier for Biden to beat. He is doing it because he's given up hope that Biden can beat Trump.

fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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I'll always go back to this point -

Trump supporters will shout from the rooftops of how Liberals manipulate everything.

Libs manipulated polls in 2015 & 2016 to show Clinton leading by huge numbers. Libs manipulate media coverage. Libs manipulate the legal system. Libs manipulate legislative actions. Libs manipulate election outcomes. Libs even manipulate world agendas.

Yet somehow random polls in 2023 are the last secure thing in the world that Libs haven't figured out how to manipulate. Somehow there's just no way that Liberals have figured out they can make Trump the nominee simply by manipulating polls to convince Republicans that Trump is unbeatable and loved by everybody. For some reason when it comes to polls conducted by Liberal sources the Liberals are full of integrity and wouldn't manipulate those polls to get the outcome they want.

Sure. Lol.

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Literally no one on this entire thread except for the DeSantis dreamers are thinking like this.

You are tilting at a windmill with your faux horse thinking that any Trump supporter is seeing this poll and thinking its total legit and Trump is preparing to waltz to victory.

Hell, I even pointed out that WaPo & ABC are pulling back and calling it an outlier.

Question is, why is the DeSantis crew vomiting all over this thread talking about Trump supporters - and not just talking but trying to get in some digs on what "Trumpers" shout from rooftops.

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Virtually all of your statement is false, starting with the OP of this very thread.

Rapier108 said:

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fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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I'll always go back to this point -

Trump supporters will shout from the rooftops of how Liberals manipulate everything.

Libs manipulated polls in 2015 & 2016 to show Clinton leading by huge numbers. Libs manipulate media coverage. Libs manipulate the legal system. Libs manipulate legislative actions. Libs manipulate election outcomes. Libs even manipulate world agendas.

Yet somehow random polls in 2023 are the last secure thing in the world that Libs haven't figured out how to manipulate. Somehow there's just no way that Liberals have figured out they can make Trump the nominee simply by manipulating polls to convince Republicans that Trump is unbeatable and loved by everybody. For some reason when it comes to polls conducted by Liberal sources the Liberals are full of integrity and wouldn't manipulate those polls to get the outcome they want.

Sure. Lol.

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Literally no one on this entire thread except for the DeSantis dreamers are thinking like this.

You are tilting at a windmill with your faux horse thinking that any Trump supporter is seeing this poll and thinking its total legit and Trump is preparing to waltz to victory.

Hell, I even pointed out that WaPo & ABC are pulling back and calling it an outlier.

Question is, why is the DeSantis crew vomiting all over this thread talking about Trump supporters - and not just talking but trying to get in some digs on what "Trumpers" shout from rooftops.

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The OP of this thread is doing just that. He believes the poll is true. If it was Biden 52-42, then it would be declared fake news by the same people who currently believe it.

The ones calling it bull**** are the DeSantis supporters because we still use critical thinking, not emotional attachment to Trump.

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One somewhat sarcastic post by the OP and 3 pages of DeSaintusites crying and whining about how if Trump is the nominee the Country is doomed.

And I literally posted the link to an article calling the poll an outlier. And according to folks like you, I am just about the most loyal, avid, blinded by orange Trump supporter ever!!

But yea, this thread is all about Trumpers popping tops and celebrating with only a couple well-reasoned posts from DeSantis folks trying to talk sense to people.

That **** is funny. Self-awareness is totally lacking this Monday morning amongst the RonnieD crew.

FL_Ag1998 said:

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fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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I'll always go back to this point -

Trump supporters will shout from the rooftops of how Liberals manipulate everything.

Libs manipulated polls in 2015 & 2016 to show Clinton leading by huge numbers. Libs manipulate media coverage. Libs manipulate the legal system. Libs manipulate legislative actions. Libs manipulate election outcomes. Libs even manipulate world agendas.

Yet somehow random polls in 2023 are the last secure thing in the world that Libs haven't figured out how to manipulate. Somehow there's just no way that Liberals have figured out they can make Trump the nominee simply by manipulating polls to convince Republicans that Trump is unbeatable and loved by everybody. For some reason when it comes to polls conducted by Liberal sources the Liberals are full of integrity and wouldn't manipulate those polls to get the outcome they want.

Sure. Lol.

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Literally no one on this entire thread except for the DeSantis dreamers are thinking like this.

You are tilting at a windmill with your faux horse thinking that any Trump supporter is seeing this poll and thinking its total legit and Trump is preparing to waltz to victory.

Hell, I even pointed out that WaPo & ABC are pulling back and calling it an outlier.

Question is, why is the DeSantis crew vomiting all over this thread talking about Trump supporters - and not just talking but trying to get in some digs on what "Trumpers" shout from rooftops.

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Virtually all of your statement is false, starting with the OP of this very thread.

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Not even close their cowboy. Reread the 3 pages.

Only never-trumpers can be trusted, and they say ridiculous failure Trump can't win in the general.

fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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I'll always go back to this point -

Trump supporters will shout from the rooftops of how Liberals manipulate everything.

Libs manipulated polls in 2015 & 2016 to show Clinton leading by huge numbers. Libs manipulate media coverage. Libs manipulate the legal system. Libs manipulate legislative actions. Libs manipulate election outcomes. Libs even manipulate world agendas.

Yet somehow random polls in 2023 are the last secure thing in the world that Libs haven't figured out how to manipulate. Somehow there's just no way that Liberals have figured out they can make Trump the nominee simply by manipulating polls to convince Republicans that Trump is unbeatable and loved by everybody. For some reason when it comes to polls conducted by Liberal sources the Liberals are full of integrity and wouldn't manipulate those polls to get the outcome they want.

Sure. Lol.

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Literally no one on this entire thread except for the DeSantis dreamers are thinking like this.

You are tilting at a windmill with your faux horse thinking that any Trump supporter is seeing this poll and thinking its total legit and Trump is preparing to waltz to victory.

Hell, I even pointed out that WaPo & ABC are pulling back and calling it an outlier.

Question is, why is the DeSantis crew vomiting all over this thread talking about Trump supporters - and not just talking but trying to get in some digs on what "Trumpers" shout from rooftops.

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Virtually all of your statement is false, starting with the OP of this very thread.

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Not even close their cowboy. Reread the 3 pages.

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That's ok, pardner, already have. And just because you say something is so doesn't make it so.

FL_Ag1998 said:

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fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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I'll always go back to this point -

Trump supporters will shout from the rooftops of how Liberals manipulate everything.

Libs manipulated polls in 2015 & 2016 to show Clinton leading by huge numbers. Libs manipulate media coverage. Libs manipulate the legal system. Libs manipulate legislative actions. Libs manipulate election outcomes. Libs even manipulate world agendas.

Yet somehow random polls in 2023 are the last secure thing in the world that Libs haven't figured out how to manipulate. Somehow there's just no way that Liberals have figured out they can make Trump the nominee simply by manipulating polls to convince Republicans that Trump is unbeatable and loved by everybody. For some reason when it comes to polls conducted by Liberal sources the Liberals are full of integrity and wouldn't manipulate those polls to get the outcome they want.

Sure. Lol.

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Literally no one on this entire thread except for the DeSantis dreamers are thinking like this.

You are tilting at a windmill with your faux horse thinking that any Trump supporter is seeing this poll and thinking its total legit and Trump is preparing to waltz to victory.

Hell, I even pointed out that WaPo & ABC are pulling back and calling it an outlier.

Question is, why is the DeSantis crew vomiting all over this thread talking about Trump supporters - and not just talking but trying to get in some digs on what "Trumpers" shout from rooftops.

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Virtually all of your statement is false, starting with the OP of this very thread.

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Not even close their cowboy. Reread the 3 pages.

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That's ok, pardner, already have. And just because you say something is so doesn't make it so.

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You are right, but in this instance there are 3 pages of DeSaintusites *****ing about how Trumpers are reacting to the poll, just because the OP made a snarky post to start the thread off.

FL_Ag1998 said:

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fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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fka ftc said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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I'll always go back to this point -

Trump supporters will shout from the rooftops of how Liberals manipulate everything.

Libs manipulated polls in 2015 & 2016 to show Clinton leading by huge numbers. Libs manipulate media coverage. Libs manipulate the legal system. Libs manipulate legislative actions. Libs manipulate election outcomes. Libs even manipulate world agendas.

Yet somehow random polls in 2023 are the last secure thing in the world that Libs haven't figured out how to manipulate. Somehow there's just no way that Liberals have figured out they can make Trump the nominee simply by manipulating polls to convince Republicans that Trump is unbeatable and loved by everybody. For some reason when it comes to polls conducted by Liberal sources the Liberals are full of integrity and wouldn't manipulate those polls to get the outcome they want.

Sure. Lol.

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Literally no one on this entire thread except for the DeSantis dreamers are thinking like this.

You are tilting at a windmill with your faux horse thinking that any Trump supporter is seeing this poll and thinking its total legit and Trump is preparing to waltz to victory.

Hell, I even pointed out that WaPo & ABC are pulling back and calling it an outlier.

Question is, why is the DeSantis crew vomiting all over this thread talking about Trump supporters - and not just talking but trying to get in some digs on what "Trumpers" shout from rooftops.

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Virtually all of your statement is false, starting with the OP of this very thread.

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Not even close their cowboy. Reread the 3 pages.

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That's ok, pardner, already have. And just because you say something is so doesn't make it so.

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I'm skimming it, and FKA is right on this one. You just don't like the subject material of the OP I guess.

Trump will win if he has learned and has the people in place to cheat.\

That or West is on every state ballet might just be enough to swing it. Would feel better if another entered as well, like RFK or idiot from West Virginia

2023NCAggies said:

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Trump will win if he has learned and has the people in place to cheat.\

That or West is on every state ballet might just be enough to swing it. Would feel better if another entered as well, like RFK or idiot from West Virginia

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Trump already said he doesn't need to do anything different because he won in 2020 and MAGA is all he needs to win in 2024.

Yeah, not buying this. This poll reeks of Dems and their media partners wanting to dump Biden from the 24 election.

The Dems keep telling you who they want to be the GOP candidate (Trump) and who they don't (DeSantis)

It would be nice if we didn't oblige them

Maroon Dawn said:

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The Dems keep telling you who they want to be the GOP candidate (Trump) and who they don't (DeSantis)

It would be nice if we didn't oblige them

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So DeSantis secretly has the lead and only those with a RonnieD-Coder ring have access to the real data that shows he blows Trump away in the primaries and crushes Joe in the general.

And every single other news source out there from Newsmax / OAN to Fox to MSM to global periodicals are all part of the greatest con of all time to prop Trump up as the R nominee and Biden will get more than 81 million ballots recorded for him because Orange Man So Bad he causes people to show up in droves to have ballots printed against him so he never holds office again.

Is that what we are to believe?

That anyone supporting Trump or thinks he is the better option are just dumb sheeple gobbling up Dem talking points and misinformation?

Is that what you guys want to go with as the story of what is happening here?

Maroon Dawn said:

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The Dems keep telling you who they want to be the GOP candidate (Trump) and who they don't (DeSantis)

It would be nice if we didn't oblige them

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It's hard to understand how people believe **** like this.