CDUB98 said:

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The Communists want us disarmed. It is central to their ability to completely control the populace.

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Haha

A large number of people in the United States need to be disarmed to be quite honest. They are not properly trained with firearms, they are mentally ill or both.

A voluntary purchase back program from the government would be a good start in my view.

A Spartan should own his shield and spear, and have it be a natural right, provided he appropriately trained and isnt nuts.

Bill Clinternet said:

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CDUB98 said:

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The Communists want us disarmed. It is central to their ability to completely control the populace.

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Haha

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Can you explain how what he said is incorrect?

Bill Clinternet said:

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A large number of people in the United States need to be disarmed to be quite honest. They are not properly trained with firearms, they are mentally ill or both.

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Leftists?

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A voluntary purchase back program from the government would be a good start in my view.

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You can donate to that fund voluntarily. Keep my tax dollars far from it.

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A Spartan should own his shield and spear, and have it be a natural right, provided he appropriately trained and isnt nuts.

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Yes, it absolutely should be a right to purchase shield and spear.
Let me guess, the leftists or our power hungry government overlords get to decide what "appropriately trained" means or who is or isn't "nuts".

[You should know by now that trolling is out of bounds -- Staff]

Tea Party said:

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Bill Clinternet said:

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A large number of people in the United States need to be disarmed to be quite honest. They are not properly trained with firearms, they are mentally ill or both.

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Leftists?

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A voluntary purchase back program from the government would be a good start in my view.

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You can donate to that fund voluntarily. Keep my tax dollars far from it.

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A Spartan should own his shield and spear, and have it be a natural right, provided he appropriately trained and isnt nuts.

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Yes, it absolutely should be a right to purchase shield and spear.
Let me guess, the leftists or our power hungry government overlords get to decide what "appropriately trained" means or who is or isn't "nuts".

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Same with you. Screened, trained and disarmed if not meeting the requirements of both.

I usually roll my eyes when people talk about another civil war.

That would start one.

Bill Clinternet said:

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Tea Party said:

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Bill Clinternet said:

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A large number of people in the United States need to be disarmed to be quite honest. They are not properly trained with firearms, they are mentally ill or both.

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Leftists?

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A voluntary purchase back program from the government would be a good start in my view.

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You can donate to that fund voluntarily. Keep my tax dollars far from it.

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A Spartan should own his shield and spear, and have it be a natural right, provided he appropriately trained and isnt nuts.

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Yes, it absolutely should be a right to purchase shield and spear.
Let me guess, the leftists or our power hungry government overlords get to decide what "appropriately trained" means or who is or isn't "nuts".

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Same with you. Screened, trained and disarmed if not meeting the requirements of both.

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Awesome.

I get to screen you and decide if you are nuts or not.

Bill Clinternet said:

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Tea Party said:

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Bill Clinternet said:

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A large number of people in the United States need to be disarmed to be quite honest. They are not properly trained with firearms, they are mentally ill or both.

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Leftists?

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A voluntary purchase back program from the government would be a good start in my view.

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You can donate to that fund voluntarily. Keep my tax dollars far from it.

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A Spartan should own his shield and spear, and have it be a natural right, provided he appropriately trained and isnt nuts.

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Yes, it absolutely should be a right to purchase shield and spear.
Let me guess, the leftists or our power hungry government overlords get to decide what "appropriately trained" means or who is or isn't "nuts".

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Same with you. Screened, trained and disarmed if not meeting the requirements of both.

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Define the requirements as best you can for what you think is appropriate regarding sufficient weapon proficiency as well as your definition of mentality I'll to not have the right…

I'm curious if you have points worth debating or are trolling with obvious civil war consequences.

Aggie Infantry said:

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1. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
2. The right of the people to practice their religious beliefs shall not be infringed.
3. The right of the people to speak, publish, print, broadcast, or express opinion and news shall not be infringed.
4. The right of the people to petition their government through peaceable assembly shall not be infringed.
5. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, property, wealth, and data against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be infringed.
6. The right of the people to a speedy and public trial by their peers, to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation, and to confront the witnesses against them, shall not be infringed.
7. The right of the people to be protected from excessive bail, excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishments shall not be infringed
8. No person shall be subject to more than one trial or one punishment for the same offense.
9. No person shall be compelled in any criminal case, to be a witness against them self, nor be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law.
10. The powers delegated by the people, through this Constitution, to the government of the United States, shall be exercised as therein appropriated, so that the Legislative shall never exercise the powers vested in the Executive or Judicial; nor the Executive the powers vested in the Legislative or Judicial; nor the Judicial the powers vested in the Legislative or Executive.
11. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
12. Congress shall make no law exempting any class or group of people.
13. Congress shall not spend more than 80% of what is collected in taxation on average over the last 5 years.
14. Congress shall not delegate law or regulatory making authority to any agency.
15. Personal, inheritance, or corporate federal taxes shall not exceed 10%.

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The inheritance tax is an evil invention that needs to DIAF.

16. Any and all laws apply equally to congress as they do any other citizen
17. Government officials are subject to 1.5x the penalty for crimes commited as normal citizens because of the power granted to them by the citizens.
18. Congress is required to spend 50% minimum of their time in their home districts availing themselves to the people that they represent
19. State legislatures appoint senators
20. Congress, and the Executive Branch, are wholly responsible to secure and defend the borders of These United States and shall be held liable criminally for failure to perform said duty.
21. No nation shall be eligible for taxpayer money as long as the federal government carries debt.
22. The federal government is limited solely to what is outlined in the Constitution; any and all functions not specifically enumerated are deemed unconstitutional and shall not be funded or continued, including any federal agencies, programs, grants, or other items that require taxpayer dollars to operate.

What would drop the gun violence numbers more? Republicans not shooting anyone or Democrats simply not shooting other Democrats?

MouthBQ98 said:

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A constitutional convention is an extremely high risk/reward gamble if you have radical activists from both sides pushing it. You might get changes you really don't want or with unintended consequences, and it would be incredibly hard to undo.

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Even after the convention it faces ratification from the states. So it would go to a vote from the populace. It is not as dangerous as many would make it out to be.
For right leaning Americans it is far safer than it is for the commies in our midst.

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Newsom's proposed national amendment would end most gun ownership for those under 21, mandate universal background checks (and thus, a national gun registry), a minimum waiting period before a gun is transferred to a buyer, and ban "assault weapons and other weapons of war."

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This is where the Democrats can call for an outright ban on all firearms for any firearm can be considered a "weapon of war".