Yesterday, I and the other Gov/Econ teachers at my school had to take our classes down to our school's media center to listen to a presentation from the county Supervisor of Elections office about registering to vote.

The presenters were telling the kids why voting is important and why their vote matters. To provide an example, they referenced 2020 Amendment 2 to the Florida Constitution. This amendment raises the state minimum wage incrementally every year until it hits $15/hour (currently it's $11; jumps to $12 at the end of this month). One of the presenters went on and on about how they need to thank Florida voters for making sure they have a good wage.

This made my Econ teacher brain itch. The good thing is, I cover wages as a price next week and get to tear this argument up.

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I don't get your point, Rocky, and you appear t have misquoted him. Can you explain for those of us who aren't that sharp?

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ECON - Not English.

Proper English - the other party's name, title, or pronoun goes before yours.

"My brother and I went to the ballgame." NOT "I and my brother went to the ballgame."

He could have said …
"I went to… along with other teachers"

But you are correct…

New Title…
"Rocky The Grammar Nazi Dog" !!

Love ya' Rock !!!

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You got me. I'll delete myself and ban my post.

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New Title…

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...but don't ever cross Tanya!

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Proper English - the other party's name, title, or pronoun goes before yours.

"My brother and I went to the ballgame." NOT "I and my brother went to the ballgame."

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Maybe the OP identifies as "the other Econ teachers" and they identify as I.

Therefore OP referred to them first and himself second. In 2023 pronouns mean absolutely nothing and the rules, well, there just are no rules.

Complete anarchy!!!!!!

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You got me. I'll delete myself and ban my post.

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I'm sorry. Really. I didn't mean to derail your post. But it gores me when I read or hear educated people butcher the English language, especially the idiots who broadcast the local news nightly. I keep a list for laughs.

Back to the subject...

Glad we all talked it out and are friends again. Forgot that their was another mane point to be maid.

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Fresh bait...

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I'm sorry. Really. I didn't mean to derail your post. But it gores me when I read or hear educated people butcher the English language, especially the idiots who broadcast the local news nightly. I keep a list for laughs.

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Apology excepted.

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Apology excepted.

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Well, irregardless…

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Direct citizen voting in policy is a disaster long term and will ruin all states that practice this.

California and Florida are two states where voters can vote directly on legislation. I think Florida requires a 60% vote to pass most things, or for some things to be voted in and pass twice…? California leftists abuse the idiocy of their voters to get all sorts of dumb regulations passed purely in emotional appeals that are economically and socially destructive.

Direct voting on law also absolves the elected officials of responsibility for the laws that get enacted.

Direct democracy fails as the voters steal from each other through force by the laws they pass. One day there's no more left to steal, everyone is poor, and government controls everything since the voters enabled it so they could take away from their neighbors.

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Direct citizen voting in policy is a disaster long term and will ruin all states that practice this.

California and Florida are two states where voters can vote directly on legislation. I think Florida requires a 60% vote to pass most things, or for some things to be voted in and pass twice…? California leftists abuse the idiocy of their voters to get all sorts of dumb regulations passed purely in emotional appeals that are economically and socially destructive.

Direct voting on law also absolves the elected officials of responsibility for the laws that get enacted.

Direct democracy fails as the voters steal from each other through force by the laws they pass. One day there's no more left to steal, everyone is poor, and government controls everything since the voters enabled it so they could take away from their neighbors.

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Florida votes on constitutional amendments as referenda, but doesn't do direct votes on actual legislation.

But you're right. Direct democracy is idiotic.

I'm hearing "I's" lately instead of "my." Is that a thing?

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I'm hearing "I's" lately instead of "my." Is that a thing?

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Supposebly

(That one was for Rocky)

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...but don't ever cross Tanya!

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I'm hearing "I's" lately instead of "my." Is that a thing?

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Give me an example (or as one of my favorite English teachers used to say, 'eggs and ample').

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I'm hearing "I's" lately instead of "my." Is that a thing?

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Give me an example (or as one of my favorite English teachers used to say, 'eggs and ample').

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John's and I's opinion on that is that is X.

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Direct citizen voting in policy is a disaster long term and will ruin all states that practice this.

California and Florida are two states where voters can vote directly on legislation. I think Florida requires a 60% vote to pass most things, or for some things to be voted in and pass twice…? California leftists abuse the idiocy of their voters to get all sorts of dumb regulations passed purely in emotional appeals that are economically and socially destructive.

Direct voting on law also absolves the elected officials of responsibility for the laws that get enacted.

Direct democracy fails as the voters steal from each other through force by the laws they pass. One day there's no more left to steal, everyone is poor, and government controls everything since the voters enabled it so they could take away from their neighbors.

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I did not know this existed, thanks for the information.

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Give me an example (or as one of my favorite English teachers used to say, 'eggs and ample').

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Yeah, I hear that a lot. It's plain ignorance. That's one of the successes of the Dept. of Education. (I have a meme for that but can't find it).

The worst is the misuse of 'myself', which is a reflective pronoun. That means that only I can affect myself. Only you can affect yourself. Examples:

"I enjoyed myself at the party", NOT "I enjoyed me at the party".

But even worse...

"Myself and my wife drove to the airport", instead of "My wife and I drove to the airport."

"The boss gave myself a raise", instead of "My boss gave ME a raise".

"I was happy to do this for yourself", instead of "I was happy to do this for you".

"I watch the gold medal winner and I knew it wasn't myself…" Lezak, American swimmer at the Olympics on the Today Show (It wasn't me is correct)

"He stopped and said he didn't see myself or my dog…" Plaintiff, The People's Court

"The kids come to myself and ask if they are safe…" from a teacher in San Antonio Independent School District (she's white)

"Coach Pop has been doing great things with myself…" Spurs player Lonnie Walker

When a child reads a lot, they learn grammar too. When something such as the examples you posted just don't "sound right," it probably isn't.

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Happy side effect: as you break down the minimum wage argument, you also get to teach skepticism of authority.

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You got me. I'll delete myself and ban my post.

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I'm sorry. Really. I didn't mean to derail your post. But it gores me when I read or hear educated people butcher the English language, especially the idiots who broadcast the local news nightly. I keep a list for laughs.

Back to the subject...

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Rocky is a bullfighter? Who knew...

eta: sportscasters are making a serious run at the local news people, I think the online thesaurus is the problem. Some people apparently think synonym means words have the same connotations.