Fall92 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Now, the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance
'Cause the players tried to take the field
The marching band refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?

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Well done, sir.

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Even better, it was over in 15 seconds, unlike the awful song.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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I'm guessing you already know everything about this situation and why the officer reacted the way they did. If not, I guess that's too much to ask in 2023.

I'm in to see the video when it surfaces.

School district cops and those from outside jurisdictions working security clear out stadia quickly after games. It's a security thing.

I've been treated rudely by a district cop for standing and talking to other parents after a game. He was practically pushing people out the gates.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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Is it possible that a teacher and Band Director that is supposed to be an example to students complies with a reasonable request from a police officer to stop playing? I have no idea if the response was noted but make no mistake, the Band Director was definitely in the wrong here. The question is only if the cops overreacted by the level of rudeness and lack of professionalism the Band Director showed went from him just being a terrible example and leader into being a criminal.

But I guess that is too much to ask in 2023.

Heisenberg01 said:

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techno-ag said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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The director refused to respect the officer's authority. So it became a charged situation.

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I'm no lawyer, but having the band play too long after the game ends feels like more of a citation, than a tase the guy and arrest him type of thing.

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Citation for what?

This seems more appropriate to be a discussion with the director's boss on Monday.

kb2001 said:

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Citation for what?

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Trespassing? Told to leave, and didn't leave.

Sounds like a nice law suit will be Happening real soon

Heisenberg01 said:

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techno-ag said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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The director refused to respect the officer's authority. So it became a charged situation.

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I'm no lawyer, but having the band play too long after the game ends feels like more of a citation, than a tase the guy and arrest him type of thing.

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Well duh. He was too busy waving his arms to sign the citation.

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unlike the awful song.

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aggie93 said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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Is it possible that a teacher and Band Director that is supposed to be an example to students complies with a reasonable request from a police officer to stop playing? I have no idea if the response was noted but make no mistake, the Band Director was definitely in the wrong here. The question is only if the cops overreacted by the level of rudeness and lack of professionalism the Band Director showed went from him just being a terrible example and leader into being a criminal.

But I guess that is too much to ask in 2023.

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How reasonable was the request? Maybe they have a normal post game amount of playing they routinely do, and the cops just randomly decide 'that's not happening today'. Could be it was one of those. 'Yes, as soon as we're done' moments. The truth is, we don't really know.

Until you know the details, I think it's a bit premature to say 'the Band Director was definitely in the wrong here'. That's a bit like saying 'Well, if you were arrested, you must have been doing something wrong!' There are thousands of instances where that's just not the case.

You may be correct, but why not wait to hear the other side.

rwtxag83 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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Is it possible that a teacher and Band Director that is supposed to be an example to students complies with a reasonable request from a police officer to stop playing? I have no idea if the response was noted but make no mistake, the Band Director was definitely in the wrong here. The question is only if the cops overreacted by the level of rudeness and lack of professionalism the Band Director showed went from him just being a terrible example and leader into being a criminal.

But I guess that is too much to ask in 2023.

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How reasonable was the request? Maybe they have a normal post game amount of playing they routinely do, and the cops just randomly decide 'that's not happening today'. Could be it was one of those. 'Yes, as soon as we're done' moments. The truth is, we don't really know.

Until you know the details, I think it's a bit premature to say 'the Band Director was definitely in the wrong here'. That's a bit like saying 'Well, if you were arrested, you must have been doing something wrong!' There are thousands of instances where that's just not the case.

You may be correct, but why not wait to hear the other side.

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The reporting was that they were asked to leave repeatedly. I have trouble believing the cops just snuck up on the Band Director and tased him either, I can't imagine they didn't warn him and tell him to vacate.

That said I'm not defending the cops, seems dumb to have to use a taser. I'm just saying the Band Director should have left when he was told to do so. Can't imagine any excuse not to.

CanyonAg77 said:

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Now, the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance
'Cause the players tried to take the field
The marching band refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?

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This is a very powerful post, sir. It reached some places I hadn't visited in a long while. Good Bull.

94chem said:

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Fall92 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Now, the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance
'Cause the players tried to take the field
The marching band refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?

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Well done, sir.

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Even better, it was over in 15 seconds, unlike the awful song.

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The one song that Madonna couldn't ruin.

aggie93 said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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Is it possible that a teacher and Band Director that is supposed to be an example to students complies with a reasonable request from a police officer to stop playing? I have no idea if the response was noted but make no mistake, the Band Director was definitely in the wrong here. The question is only if the cops overreacted by the level of rudeness and lack of professionalism the Band Director showed went from him just being a terrible example and leader into being a criminal.

But I guess that is too much to ask in 2023.

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I get that. I hear what you are saying. I really do.

But I think there was probably a better way to handle the situation than tase the band director because the band wouldn't stop playing.

It's bunch of HS kids after a game and the band director gets tazed?

Why?

Because the band wouldn't stop playing.

I'm all for general law and order but there is no situation where that makes sense.

agz win said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Now, the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance
'Cause the players tried to take the field
The marching band refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?

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This is a very powerful post, sir. It reached some places I hadn't visited in a long while. Good Bull.

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The references to "sergeants" playing, and refusing to yield, reminded me of our attitude as BQs in the 70s.

The kids were probably happy as hell to see him get tased. The game was over, everyone was leaving….time to get out of the damn uniform and go party with friends.
Oh wait….They're band nerds. Never mind.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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aggie93 said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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Is it possible that a teacher and Band Director that is supposed to be an example to students complies with a reasonable request from a police officer to stop playing? I have no idea if the response was noted but make no mistake, the Band Director was definitely in the wrong here. The question is only if the cops overreacted by the level of rudeness and lack of professionalism the Band Director showed went from him just being a terrible example and leader into being a criminal.

But I guess that is too much to ask in 2023.

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I get that. I hear what you are saying. I really do.

But I think there was probably a better way to handle the situation than tase the band director because the band wouldn't stop playing.

It's bunch of HS kids after a game and the band director gets tazed?

Why?

Because the band wouldn't stop playing.

I'm all for general law and order but there is no situation where that makes sense.

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Not playing defense for cops, just saying the Band Director could have just stopped playing and left when a freaking police officer showed up. I just can't imagine any reason for him not doing so besides being a moron and a terrible example as a teacher unless the cops snuck up on him and tased him without warning. Pretty sure that didn't happen.

I just get tired of excuse making and lack of personal responsibility. Doesn't mean the cops aren't crap too.

Heisenberg01 said:

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techno-ag said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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The director refused to respect the officer's authority. So it became a charged situation.

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I'm no lawyer, but having the band play too long after the game ends feels like more of a citation, than a tase the guy and arrest him type of thing.

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Actually it sounds like more of a just empty the stadium and turn off the lights type of thing. Let them play all night in the ****ing dark. Who cares.

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That Corps guy got kicked out of school even though the SMU guy started the fight. I remember when I was OD they told me if we pulled out our sabre we would be expelled because of that guy. You can only take responsibility for yourself.

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Again, who told black people that complying with a lawful command from a police officer was optional? They act surprised that they keep getting their asses kicked by cops after refusing to comply with lawful orders.

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The concept was designed and sold to the masses by one Barrack Hussein Obama and his top-notch racist AG Eric Holder.

Hey but he made sure to get all those votes going forward!

Before I care, I need to know the skin color.

MemphisAg1 said:

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techno-ag said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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The director refused to respect the officer's authority.

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So the officer has authority to tell a band to stop playing simply so they can expedite emptying of the stands and go home? If there was a true emergency in the moment I could understand, but this seems like a reach. Police have authority to protect the public but it's not without limits. I don't support fighting the police either, but man sometimes they force unnecessary harm to their public image, which can undermine the support they need during tough times.

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Exactly. The reason the band director had to get out shouldn't be "because the officer said so". If there's no reason the "officer said so", then he has no business ordering anyone to do anything. If this became a trespassing issue because the school district wanted everyone out by a certain time, that's different That's the reason. But if there's no reason, the cop can STFU.

TexAgs91 said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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techno-ag said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Is is possible for police to leave people alone and not escalate a situation into one where someone gets shot or tazed?

Not everything requires a police response.

There is something called officer discretion.

But I guess thats too much to ask in 2023.

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The director refused to respect the officer's authority.

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So the officer has authority to tell a band to stop playing simply so they can expedite emptying of the stands and go home? If there was a true emergency in the moment I could understand, but this seems like a reach. Police have authority to protect the public but it's not without limits. I don't support fighting the police either, but man sometimes they force unnecessary harm to their public image, which can undermine the support they need during tough times.

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Exactly. The reason the band director had to get out shouldn't be "because the officer said so". If there's no reason the "officer said so", then he has no business ordering anyone to do anything. If this became a trespassing issue because the school district wanted everyone out by a certain time, that's different That's the reason. But if there's no reason, the cop can STFU.

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We always locked the gates after games to keep vandals out. Hell, all the schools do. We had to go over the fence to burn a big W at midfield before our game with the Donna Redskins.
When the authorities say it's time to go…it's time to go. Tase the mf'er and drag him out!

agdad4x said:

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the band played too long...

how 'bout turning the lights off and everyone else goes home ?

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Likely a liability thing- they aren't turning off lights and/or locking up, etc until the premises are cleared.

The second you turn those lights off, you know the fat tuba player is going to trip going down the stairs and sue the ISD.

On the same token- balancing liability- on no planet is it worth tasing the band director for his actions. Threaten to report him to his AD and superintendent... Heck, even give a trespassing citation. But tasing is a completely silly of escalation of things. I think the officer forget the response needs to be proportionate/reasonable to the threat and always be working to deescalate. Very basic fundamentals of good policing out the window here.

I can just about guarantee that he wasn't tased for "playing too long." Several large ISD's have a policy of getting people off the field quickly and cops enforce it.

For all we know, this could have been one of those games where there's no team handshake or player-parent meetup after the game, just straight to the busses.

Lol.

He found out.

Beautiful hustling here by CNN.

Just a few paragraphs in a you'll learn he was not tased for refusing to.stop playing, he was tased for a physical altercation.

The other band director didn't get tased because he stopped playing, as requested.

This seems really simple. Stop playing when asked, don't be so defiant you're willing tomriskmyoirnbody over a simple request.

Shut up and leave