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Here's what we can do. Send all the illegals back and let them enter legally, get their jobs back, work and support themselves for 10 years and then they can vote.

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Cutting off the nose to spite the face, or ruining the economy to own the libs.

The Bolsheviks that control the left would simply ignore the border security provisions and we'd be right back where we started in a few years. Why should we trust promises of border security for a regime that is orchestrating the mass illegal immigration to the border the last 3 years? They're enacting the "great replacement" before our eyes and we're supposed to legitimize it? Nah.

Let's secure the border and have a robust guest worker program but no path to citizenship for anyone who came here illegally.

Free market capitalism would say let in anyone who wants to work.

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Manhattan said:

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Manhattan said:

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I want more legal immigration, and to legally recognize the people here we have already decided to hire.

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Again, we don't need them or want them here. This is the second thread demonstrating that after you hijacked the fact that your Mayor can't handle anymore.

You're just looking for low IQ votes to harvest.

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Go read my responses on that thread about the mayor instead of trying to derail this one.

They are clearly wanted here as evidenced that 10,000,000 of them have been hired to work.

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They are not needed whatsoever. As has been stated on multiple threads, cut entitlements and Americans will go back to work. No more welfare, no more free healthcare, 0. We have the workers here.

You should go around NYC and tell hedge funds and banks that they need to hire illegals for their open positions. Start in your own house before dumping them on the rest of "flyover country."

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"Flyover country" are the ones hiring them!

As quoted twice and bolded once, the amnesty doesn't kick in until border protections are in place.

Of course. You never make a deal with the devil. They lie. It's what liberals do. It's baked in.

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Free market capitalism would say let in anyone who wants to work.

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It absolutely does not. It is predicated on a God fearing nation with borders. Again, enjoy the illegals we send you. I'm sure you can put them to work cleaning your 300 sqft apartment.

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As quoted twice and bolded once, the amnesty doesn't kick in until border protections are in place.

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Step 1 - border protection in place
Step 2 - amnesty
Step 3 - open borders

Manhattan said:

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As quoted twice and bolded once, the amnesty doesn't kick in until border protections are in place.

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A party that not only ignores border security completely but actively undermines it and encourages illegal immigration will absolutely not be concerned with the letter of the law. A radical like Mayorkas or whoever else the leftists have in place will do nothing but subvert the law.

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Manhattan said:

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Free market capitalism would say let in anyone who wants to work.

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It absolutely does not. It is predicated on a God fearing nation with borders. Again, enjoy the illegals we send you. I'm sure you can put them to work cleaning your 300 sqft apartment.

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Maybe you can tell the Mayor that you would take some in to snuggle with you at night too. After you put them to work, of course.

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That's the thing we have about 10,000,000 of them working her illegally so obviously we do need them.

So let's make them legal.

The bill would make them legal, make it harder for more to get in, and make it harder for business to hire undocumented workers.

And then make it easier for people with skills to immigrate here.

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Remove min wages and welfare. Then we wont need them.

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Rockdoc said:

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Here's what we can do. Send all the illegals back and let them enter legally, get their jobs back, work and support themselves for 10 years and then they can vote.

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Cutting off the nose to spite the face, or ruining the economy to own the libs.

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See. The votes are all that matters to you dems.

Manhattan said:

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Free market capitalism would say let in anyone who wants to work.

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We dont have that now.......

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Manhattan said:

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Free market capitalism would say let in anyone who wants to work.

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It absolutely does not. It is predicated on a God fearing nation with borders. Again, enjoy the illegals we send you. I'm sure you can put them to work cleaning your 300 sqft apartment.

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Maybe you can tell the Mayor that you would take some in to snuggle with you at night too. After you put them to work, of course.

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Why would I do that? I want them to work and get their own place.

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I want more legal immigration, and to legally recognize the people here we have already decided to hire.

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Good luck, hopefully that never happens.

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YouBet said:

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Manhattan said:

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That's the thing we have about 10,000,000 of them working her illegally so obviously we do need them.

So let's make them legal.

The bill would make them legal, make it harder for more to get in, and make it harder for business to hire undocumented workers.

And then make it easier for people with skills to immigrate here.

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Can we get rid of the millions that came here under the current open borders regime?

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What happens to the economy when you immediately remove 10,000,000, or approximately 6% of all the workers?

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Lots of job openings for Americans. Drastically reduce welfare and force the leeches to go to work.

Reduced burden on healthcare system.

Reduced burden on public school system.

Reduced crime.

Lower insurance rates.

Do I need to continue?

Look at the RGV shifting right…

Healthcare and education system would be getting significantly lower taxes especially in Texas where there is no state income tax, but high property and sales taxes.

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Healthcare and education system would be getting significantly lower taxes especially in Texas where there is no state income tax, but high property and sales taxes.

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Good, they need less spending. Spending has no benefit to performance, especially with education, its useless.

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Healthcare and education system would be getting significantly lower taxes especially in Texas where there is no state income tax, but high property and sales taxes.

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And they'd have significantly less expenses. You think illegals are paying their hospital bills? Lol

Sorry. You're just not gonna get away with that playbook.

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Healthcare and education system would be getting significantly lower taxes especially in Texas where there is no state income tax, but high property and sales taxes.

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And they'd have significantly less expenses. You think illegals are paying their hospital bills? Lol

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They are getting the benefit of food stamps as well, this is beyond dispute. Any C-store owner in Texas that takes food stamps has the proof. I have seen it

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Free market capitalism would say let in anyone who wants to work.

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It absolutely does not. It is predicated on a God fearing nation with borders. Again, enjoy the illegals we send you. I'm sure you can put them to work cleaning your 300 sqft apartment.

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Maybe you can tell the Mayor that you would take some in to snuggle with you at night too. After you put them to work, of course.

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Why would I do that? I want them to work and get their own place.

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You think they can afford to house 8-10 illegals in an NYC apartment while running a taco stand?

Fine, but only if the Left is also willing to compromise.

The United States can grant immediate citizenship to all illegals in this country, but they have to allow a vote for red states to peacefully secede from the United States.

That's the deal. Let it be so!

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So how many businesses immediately fail? I mean **** 'em right, they hired undocumented workers!

Oh wait that would destroy the economy.

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This what our government did during Covid, we told them all, "f*** you!" and they failed….liberals cheered that on…

3.6 million unfilled jobs would be a neat problem to have for a little while?

Might create incentive to pay more

Wouldn't that be a boon to the lower class?

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I want more legal immigration, and to legally recognize the people here we have already decided to hire.

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No, you want more power for your party and apparently more human trafficking, because that's what is REALLY going on down with the open border. Economic issues/arguments are a smokescreen. If you don't know that, you shouldn't be engaging in this topic since you're thoroughly uneducated about it.

I do believe you're knowledgable enough about the first part of what I said: power for your party. You may be enough of a UI (THAT IS A TERM -- LOOK IT UP, NOT AN AD HOMINEM, though I won't write it out here) to believe what they're telling you about the supposed economic perils (all false, by the way), but absent that, your arguments are either insincere or ignorant.

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So how many businesses immediately fail? I mean **** 'em right, they hired undocumented workers!

Oh wait that would destroy the economy.

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This what our government did during Covid, we told them all, "f*** you!" and they failed….liberals cheered that on…

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Yea exactly. We must have missed when the left gave a crap about businesses when threatening half the country to recieve experimental medicine or lose your job.

He doesn't give a s*** about people or businesses. He just wants his party to have its way no different than any other socialist useful idiot would.

/laughcry

We are on the same wavelength apparently. Except you are in the future by a minute or two.

Anastasia Beaverhaven said:

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Manhattan said:

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Free market capitalism would say let in anyone who wants to work.

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It absolutely does not. It is predicated on a God fearing nation with borders. Again, enjoy the illegals we send you. I'm sure you can put them to work cleaning your 300 sqft apartment.

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Maybe you can tell the Mayor that you would take some in to snuggle with you at night too. After you put them to work, of course.

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Why would I do that? I want them to work and get their own place.

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You think they can afford to house 8-10 illegals in an NYC apartment while running a taco stand?

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Clearly you have never been to Corona, Queens.

Manhattan said:

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That's the thing we have about 10,000,000 of them working her illegally so obviously we do need them.

So let's make them legal.

The bill would make them legal, make it harder for more to get in, and make it harder for business to hire undocumented workers.

And then make it easier for people with skills to immigrate here.

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We have way more than 10,000,000 here. We need to get rid of them.

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Sorry. You're just not gonna get away with that playbook.

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It's not a playbook, they pay the same tax as everyone else in income tax free states.

We have 10,000,000 working here.

Manhattan said:

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We have 10,000,000 working here.

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Yes, end welfare and those jobs would be filed. It's simple