If biden gets the ticket, who on here will vote for him no matter who the opponent is

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richardag
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Stlkofta said:

jrdaustin said:

Another point to ponder when it comes to Biden's "job growth"....

Near as I can figure quickly, we've had over 6 million migrants cross the border and are currently in country since Biden took office.

So those 13 million jobs are more than eaten up between pandemic recovery and illegal migration sanctioned by this government.

Saying that Biden has created jobs is like saying the Afghanistan withdrawal was successful. Or, like saying Biden wasn't "in business" with Hunter.
His foreign policy is an abject failure in the Carter tradition.

His domestic policy is such a complete disaster he has to resort to fantasist bunker-mentality distortions of reality in order to justify the trust granted him by 81,000,000 (or so) morons.

He can't run on his record. He has to run on the lies.

He only wins if the GOP candidate allows him to get away with the fraud.
Problem anyone running against the minion nominated by the Democratic National committee will be with the MSM that appears completely devoid of ethics and morals.
The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, the public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
-- Cicero, 55 B.C.
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Opalka said:

rocky the dog said:


You clearly did NOT read the question. And that's the trouble with folks on the right....always derailing the topic or deflecting. If you're not voting for him, go to another topic.
We had someone show up with a post declaring Biden created 13,000,000 new jobs...and you don't think that is going to be challenged on this forum?

Wages are down. Cost of living is up. People are struggling in this country.

And you, Pollyanna, are buying into everything Joe Biden tells you.

A sucker is born every minute.

My guess is you experience a rebirth every millisecond.

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richardag said:

Stlkofta said:

jrdaustin said:

Another point to ponder when it comes to Biden's "job growth"....

Near as I can figure quickly, we've had over 6 million migrants cross the border and are currently in country since Biden took office.

So those 13 million jobs are more than eaten up between pandemic recovery and illegal migration sanctioned by this government.

Saying that Biden has created jobs is like saying the Afghanistan withdrawal was successful. Or, like saying Biden wasn't "in business" with Hunter.
His foreign policy is an abject failure in the Carter tradition.

His domestic policy is such a complete disaster he has to resort to fantasist bunker-mentality distortions of reality in order to justify the trust granted him by 81,000,000 (or so) morons.

He can't run on his record. He has to run on the lies.

He only wins if the GOP candidate allows him to get away with the fraud.
Problem anyone running against the minion nominated by the Democratic National committee will be with the MSM that appears completely devoid of ethics and morals.
Very much true.

But now Biden has a record to defend, so long as the Republican nominee is willing to focus on that record and contrast it with the previous Republican POTUS.

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Birdwatcher said:

Ok, I'll play. Here are just a few of his accomplishments that come to mind.

[ol]
  • Most robust job growth in Americas history. (13,400,000)
  • Lowest consistent unemployment rate in over 5 decades. (3.4%)
  • 1,000,000 high paying manufacturing jobs created in Biden's last two years.
  • Real wages are higher than they were in 2019.
  • Record low unemployment for minorities
  • Most and second most small business jobs creations in US history during Biden's 3 years.
  • Strong GDP that recently blew past economists expectations.
  • Largest investment in green energy in our nation's history
  • Prime age working adults are flooding the job market at their highest levels since 2002.
  • Nasdaq had its best 6 month span in over 4 decades.
  • Lowest inflation rates among our G7 allies.
  • Most private manufacturing investment in history. (500,000,000,000+)
  • Longest stretch of sub 4.0% unemployment rate in over 50 years.
  • Job openings are at a 2 year low
  • [/ol]
    America is in an economic boom due to major legislative victories by Biden and this administration. None of this is by accident, it's a result of tangible and aggressive action from our democratic leaders and Biden.
    Do NOT allow republicans to control the narrative on our economy.

    VOTE, and bring 1 or 2 or 10 like minded friends and family with you.
    If you aren't registered, register here, it literally takes 2 minutes: https://www.vote.org
    Hullabaloonatic
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    Me either!
    richardag
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    nortex97 said:

    It's very difficult to find a subject that Joe Biden hasn't lied about at some point in the past 50 years.
    Agree completely.
    The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, the public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt.
    People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
    -- Cicero, 55 B.C.
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    Ellis Wyatt said:

    And using the government to jail political enemies and silence opposition is just the cherry on top, right?
    To be fair... Trump has claimed he'd do the same in the past. Both are terrible terrible options. My guess is that if that's all either side has to vote for....the voter turnout may be lower. People are tired of dealing with the political chaos that has gone on the last 7 years and just want to move on.
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    BluHorseShu said:

    Ellis Wyatt said:

    And using the government to jail political enemies and silence opposition is just the cherry on top, right?
    To be fair... Trump has claimed he'd do the same in the past.
    a. He didn't.
    b. Hillary is a criminal.
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    Stlkofta said:

    richardag said:


    …,,, deleted to save space
    Very much true.

    But now Biden has a record to defend, so long as the Republican nominee is willing to focus on that record and contrast it with the previous Republican POTUS.
    Very true. The Republican National committee should be making lists of very direct questions regarding the records and policy failures of any Democratic candidates that may be running for President in 2024.

    Make the campaigns about policy and historical records regarding the policies.
    The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, the public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt.
    People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
    -- Cicero, 55 B.C.
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    anybody that votes for braindead peepaw is a degenerate
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    BluHorseShu said:

    Ellis Wyatt said:

    And using the government to jail political enemies and silence opposition is just the cherry on top, right?
    To be fair... Trump has claimed he'd do the same in the past. Both are terrible terrible options. My guess is that if that's all either side has to vote for....the voter turnout may be lower. People are tired of dealing with the political chaos that has gone on the last 7 years and just want to move on.
    Disagree on the bolded part. Trump may be a terrible person, but up until Covid, he was a decent President. Biden has been an abysmal failure in every aspect of his presidency.

    That said, DeSantis in the primary, the (R) nominee in the general.
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    that's a huge but, almost as big as the one in the photoshopped trump tennis picture.
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    his own words
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    Manhattan said:

    that's a huge but, almost as big as the one in the photoshopped trump tennis picture.
    He's still a far better option than Biden, or any other Democrat for that matter. Democrats do nothing positive for we the people.
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    1 biden vote = up to 3 conservative votes depending on store locations
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    Birdwatcher said:

    Ok, I'll play. Here are just a few of his accomplishments that come to mind.

    [ol]
  • Most robust job growth in Americas history. (13,400,000)
  • Lowest consistent unemployment rate in over 5 decades. (3.4%)
  • 1,000,000 high paying manufacturing jobs created in Biden's last two years.
  • Real wages are higher than they were in 2019.
  • Record low unemployment for minorities
  • Most and second most small business jobs creations in US history during Biden's 3 years.
  • Strong GDP that recently blew past economists expectations.
  • Largest investment in green energy in our nation's history
  • Prime age working adults are flooding the job market at their highest levels since 2002.
  • Nasdaq had its best 6 month span in over 4 decades.
  • Lowest inflation rates among our G7 allies.
  • Most private manufacturing investment in history. (500,000,000,000+)
  • Longest stretch of sub 4.0% unemployment rate in over 50 years.
  • Job openings are at a 2 year low
  • [/ol]
    America is in an economic boom due to major legislative victories by Biden and this administration. None of this is by accident, it's a result of tangible and aggressive action from our democratic leaders and Biden.
    Do NOT allow republicans to control the narrative on our economy.

    VOTE, and bring 1 or 2 or 10 like minded friends and family with you.
    If you aren't registered, register here, it literally takes 2 minutes: https://www.vote.org


    Complete BS and dem distorted talking points, America is in horrible financial shape and the most politically divided in memory. Biden doesn't get to totally wreck the ship and then credit himself for saving a few passengers. Green energy investment is kind of like buying a Kia and bragging about reduced performance. Magoo is selling himself and his country down the drain.
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    BadMoonRisin said:

    nai06 said:

    I wish it was someone else, but if he's on the ticket I'll be voting for Biden


    Aren't you a teacher, too?

    Maybe that's Ghost of Andrew Eaton sipping out of your brain.

    The human centipede of teacher quality these days.

    You'll all be tossed to the curb when vouchers are legal. You provide zero educational value because you are not very smart, so what line of work are you going to choose after that? You got a bike lock? Maybe you can be ANTIFA.
    And here I thought personal attacks violated forum rules.
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    It was a rhetorical question.
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    aggieforester05 said:

    Kellso said:

    Ellis Wyatt said:

    Some people are completely detached from reality and morality.
    Ellis,

    You gotta pray hard for Trump.
    Quote:

    What made the Biden loss so difficult for the right to handle was that it ruined Trump's reputation as a winner.


    President Trump had become the hero for many Americans on the right.....and too see him get bent over and screwed in the ass by the Biden team was hard to take.
    2020 was American granting the Obama administration a 3rd term.

    Since that Presidential in 2020 the Left has taken great liberty in calling Trump and all his supporters losers.
    Its one thing to lose the Presidency to an Obama or Reagan...its another thing to lose (decisively) to a total joke of a politician like Joe Biden.

    If Trump loses to Biden for a second time then he will be more remembered for being inferior to Joe Biden than his victory over Hillary. History will just credit his victory in 2016 as a fluke over a woman that no one liked.


    You really couldn't be more wrong and if this is what you think, then you have a very poor understanding of the thought processes of those in the right. The right was upset that the left "won" the election under extremely shady and unethical circumstances combined with extreme propaganda saturation. They were even more concerned about the damage a Biden administration would and has done to this country. It was never all about Trump but standing up to liberal idiots and Democrat corruption /malfeasance and terrible policy positions. It was partly about the political/media machine that had worked overtime for four years to destroy Trump while proping up **** bag Democrats.
    Forrester,

    C'mon bro.....you don't have to lie to kick it. You guys were devastated over Trump losing in 2020 because his legacy was ruined.
    He lost to a geriatric candidate for POTUS who spent the entire year campaigning in his basement.

    If Trump lose again to Biden then everyone will forget his win in 2016 over Hillary.
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    Kellso said:

    aggieforester05 said:

    Kellso said:

    Ellis Wyatt said:

    Some people are completely detached from reality and morality.
    Ellis,

    You gotta pray hard for Trump.
    Quote:

    What made the Biden loss so difficult for the right to handle was that it ruined Trump's reputation as a winner.


    President Trump had become the hero for many Americans on the right.....and too see him get bent over and screwed in the ass by the Biden team was hard to take.
    2020 was American granting the Obama administration a 3rd term.

    Since that Presidential in 2020 the Left has taken great liberty in calling Trump and all his supporters losers.
    Its one thing to lose the Presidency to an Obama or Reagan...its another thing to lose (decisively) to a total joke of a politician like Joe Biden.

    If Trump loses to Biden for a second time then he will be more remembered for being inferior to Joe Biden than his victory over Hillary. History will just credit his victory in 2016 as a fluke over a woman that no one liked.


    You really couldn't be more wrong and if this is what you think, then you have a very poor understanding of the thought processes of those in the right. The right was upset that the left "won" the election under extremely shady and unethical circumstances combined with extreme propaganda saturation. They were even more concerned about the damage a Biden administration would and has done to this country. It was never all about Trump but standing up to liberal idiots and Democrat corruption /malfeasance and terrible policy positions. It was partly about the political/media machine that had worked overtime for four years to destroy Trump while proping up **** bag Democrats.
    Forrester,

    C'mon bro.....you don't have to lie to kick it. You guys were devastated over Trump losing in 2020 because his legacy was ruined.
    He lost to a geriatric candidate for POTUS who spent the entire year campaigning in his basement.

    If Trump lose again to Biden then everyone will forget his win in 2016 over Hillary.


    Feel free to be wrong. Idiotic Democrat policy positions, rampant Democrat corruption, and virtually no media or legal oversight of the Democrat party is what really terrifies conservatives. It should terrify you too!

    Liberals live in a near perfect echo chamber of confirmation bias, are highly emotional, think they're smarter than they really are, and have no ethical or moral boundaries. That's a terrible combination of qualities in an electorate. Their leadership is reflective of their values.
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    aggieforester05 said:

    nai06 said:

    I wish it was someone else, but if he's on the ticket I'll be voting for Biden


    Incredibly bad decision
    Have you seen the posting history. I'm surprised is not someone even further left.
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    Let's see ... My grandparents, thats 4, my great grandparents thats 8 more and I'm preaty sure my great great parents thats another 16 so that's 28 total.
    FJB
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    aggieforester05 said:

    Kellso said:

    aggieforester05 said:

    Kellso said:

    Ellis Wyatt said:

    Some people are completely detached from reality and morality.
    Ellis,

    You gotta pray hard for Trump.
    Quote:

    What made the Biden loss so difficult for the right to handle was that it ruined Trump's reputation as a winner.


    President Trump had become the hero for many Americans on the right.....and too see him get bent over and screwed in the ass by the Biden team was hard to take.
    2020 was American granting the Obama administration a 3rd term.

    Since that Presidential in 2020 the Left has taken great liberty in calling Trump and all his supporters losers.
    Its one thing to lose the Presidency to an Obama or Reagan...its another thing to lose (decisively) to a total joke of a politician like Joe Biden.

    If Trump loses to Biden for a second time then he will be more remembered for being inferior to Joe Biden than his victory over Hillary. History will just credit his victory in 2016 as a fluke over a woman that no one liked.


    You really couldn't be more wrong and if this is what you think, then you have a very poor understanding of the thought processes of those in the right. The right was upset that the left "won" the election under extremely shady and unethical circumstances combined with extreme propaganda saturation. They were even more concerned about the damage a Biden administration would and has done to this country. It was never all about Trump but standing up to liberal idiots and Democrat corruption /malfeasance and terrible policy positions. It was partly about the political/media machine that had worked overtime for four years to destroy Trump while proping up **** bag Democrats.
    Forrester,

    C'mon bro.....you don't have to lie to kick it. You guys were devastated over Trump losing in 2020 because his legacy was ruined.
    He lost to a geriatric candidate for POTUS who spent the entire year campaigning in his basement.

    If Trump lose again to Biden then everyone will forget his win in 2016 over Hillary.


    Feel free to be wrong. Idiotic Democrat policy positions, rampant Democrat corruption, and virtually no media or legal oversight of the Democrat party is what really terrifies conservatives. It should terrify you too!

    Liberals live in a near perfect echo chamber of confirmation bias, are highly emotional, think they're smarter than they really are, and have no ethical or moral boundaries. That's a terrible combination of qualities in an electorate. Their leadership is reflective of their values.
    I don't disagree with you at all.
    The problem with the Right....is that you guys just aren't that smart anymore.

    The Left is always playing chess, and seeing things 5 steps ahead of the Conservatives.
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    Kellso said:

    aggieforester05 said:

    Kellso said:

    aggieforester05 said:

    Kellso said:

    Ellis Wyatt said:

    Some people are completely detached from reality and morality.
    Ellis,

    You gotta pray hard for Trump.
    Quote:

    What made the Biden loss so difficult for the right to handle was that it ruined Trump's reputation as a winner.


    President Trump had become the hero for many Americans on the right.....and too see him get bent over and screwed in the ass by the Biden team was hard to take.
    2020 was American granting the Obama administration a 3rd term.

    Since that Presidential in 2020 the Left has taken great liberty in calling Trump and all his supporters losers.
    Its one thing to lose the Presidency to an Obama or Reagan...its another thing to lose (decisively) to a total joke of a politician like Joe Biden.

    If Trump loses to Biden for a second time then he will be more remembered for being inferior to Joe Biden than his victory over Hillary. History will just credit his victory in 2016 as a fluke over a woman that no one liked.


    You really couldn't be more wrong and if this is what you think, then you have a very poor understanding of the thought processes of those in the right. The right was upset that the left "won" the election under extremely shady and unethical circumstances combined with extreme propaganda saturation. They were even more concerned about the damage a Biden administration would and has done to this country. It was never all about Trump but standing up to liberal idiots and Democrat corruption /malfeasance and terrible policy positions. It was partly about the political/media machine that had worked overtime for four years to destroy Trump while proping up **** bag Democrats.
    Forrester,

    C'mon bro.....you don't have to lie to kick it. You guys were devastated over Trump losing in 2020 because his legacy was ruined.
    He lost to a geriatric candidate for POTUS who spent the entire year campaigning in his basement.

    If Trump lose again to Biden then everyone will forget his win in 2016 over Hillary.


    Feel free to be wrong. Idiotic Democrat policy positions, rampant Democrat corruption, and virtually no media or legal oversight of the Democrat party is what really terrifies conservatives. It should terrify you too!

    Liberals live in a near perfect echo chamber of confirmation bias, are highly emotional, think they're smarter than they really are, and have no ethical or moral boundaries. That's a terrible combination of qualities in an electorate. Their leadership is reflective of their values.
    I don't disagree with you at all.
    The problem with the Right....is that you guys just aren't that smart anymore.

    The Left is always playing chess, and seeing things 5 steps ahead of the Conservatives.


    Most Republican politicians and strategist are stupid and/or lazy. All Democrat politicians are either really stupid and/or completely and totally ethically devoid. Democrat strategist are smart, ethically devoid, and know they can act with complete impunity due to the lack of oversight. Both parties have voters that are on a spectrum from highly intelligent to people of Walmart.

    Democrat voters are completely brainwashed because their media sources are overwhelmingly dominant thanks to the entertainment and journalism industries attacting right brain types and being located in population centers. Republican voters have their propaganda but are also constantly inundated with liberal opinions thanks to the dominance of left wing media, it's inescapable. Liberals ignore anything labeled as right wing while thinking their hard left sources are fair and balanced. Liberals also have no morals so they don't mind their politicians breaking the laws and acting hypocriticaly. Republican voters are sick of watching Democrats get away with everything and largely become dismissive of allegations of wrong doing made against Republicans. Understandably so, especially after the last five years of unhinged attacks on Trump.

    Much of our problems could be solved simply by journalists holding Democrats to the same standards they hold Republicans to instead of being left wing activists. Is that really too much to ask?
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    aggieforester05 said:

    Kellso said:

    Ellis Wyatt said:

    Some people are completely detached from reality and morality.
    Ellis,

    You gotta pray hard for Trump.
    Quote:

    What made the Biden loss so difficult for the right to handle was that it ruined Trump's reputation as a winner.


    President Trump had become the hero for many Americans on the right.....and too see him get bent over and screwed in the ass by the Biden team was hard to take.
    2020 was American granting the Obama administration a 3rd term.

    Since that Presidential in 2020 the Left has taken great liberty in calling Trump and all his supporters losers.
    Its one thing to lose the Presidency to an Obama or Reagan...its another thing to lose (decisively) to a total joke of a politician like Joe Biden.

    If Trump loses to Biden for a second time then he will be more remembered for being inferior to Joe Biden than his victory over Hillary. History will just credit his victory in 2016 as a fluke over a woman that no one liked.


    You really couldn't be more wrong and if this is what you think, then you have a very poor understanding of the thought processes of those in the right. The right was upset that the left "won" the election under extremely shady and unethical circumstances combined with extreme propaganda saturation. They were even more concerned about the damage a Biden administration would and has done to this country. It was never all about Trump but standing up to liberal idiots and Democrat corruption /malfeasance and terrible policy positions. It was partly about the political/media machine that had worked overtime for four years to destroy Trump while proping up **** bag Democrats.
    This. It is not about Trump. Or Biden. It is about what the left is willing to do - and to sacrifice - in order to win. Those of you who vote for Biden are playing with fire, and here's why...

    The left now has control of corporate media, the educational system, and the inner workings of the administrative bureaucracy. So in reality, the Constitution doesn't matter. Truth doesn't matter. Integrity doesn't matter. As long as you win. Yet you fail to see how dangerous this is.

    Let's look at examples:
    • Harry Reid, when confronted 2017 about abject lies he told on the Senate floor re. Mitt Romney, basically said: "Well they worked, didn't they?"
    • Trump was impeached in 2019 for "Abuse of Power" and "Obstruction of Congress". Or more specifically, for DELAYING aid to Ukraine in requesting them to LOOK INTO the actions of Biden and his son Hunter. And also, for targeting a POTENTIAL opponent in the upcoming election.
    • The same Democrats who initiated the above now have ZERO interest in examining the current president for threatening to CANCEL aid to Ukraine in demanding them to FIRE the investigator looking into the company on who's Board of Directors Biden's son Hunter served. As well as targeting an ACTUAL opponent in the upcoming election.
    • The media constantly accused Trump and his DOJ during his administration of "creating a Constitutional crisis" by targeting political opponents - yet no indictments were ever served, no grand juries were empaneled, no opponents were indicted.
    • Contrast that to today, where the current DOJ targets mothers who question the actions of school board members, seeks to infiltrate houses of worship to find "dissidents", employs early morning raids resulting in fatalities against citizens who have posted things online in opposition to the government, and has coordinated among multiple jurisdictions to indict a current opposition candidate for President. And the Corporate media is silent.

    I will NEVER vote democrat for one reason. There is no principle, law, or foundational cornerstone of this Republic that the democrats aren't willing to sacrifice in order to achieve their short term goals. This lack of introspection and adherence to the fundamental foundations of our nation can easily result in its downfall.

    As Victor Davis Hanson has noted, we find ourselves today disturbingly parallel to Rome in its final years. Only time will tell if we can avoid Rome's fate.
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    You lie as well as the guy who plagiarized speeches during his presidential campaign, claimed his son died in Afghanistan, fabricated a story about his house fire damage, claimed he influenced Thurgood Marshall to vote for the Civil Rights Bill even though he wasn't in government at the time and Marshall never voted for the bill, and lied about not taking over $20 million in bribes from Ukraine and China.
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    nortex97 said:

    It's very difficult to find a subject that Joe Biden hasn't lied about at some point in the past 50 years.


    It is very difficult to find a subject or even an incident where joe biden has told the truth in the last 50+ years...
     
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