etxag02 said:

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Only investing 20% of funds in two years is normal?

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Dude…

LOL! Tell me you don't know how to invest without telling me you don't know how to invest...

Swing and a miss, lib. But if, hypothetically, there was corruption...precedent has been set. It doesn't matter, it's ok. Politicians can do whatever they want. Signed, you know who, plus countless members of congress worth tens of millions of $$$ on a $175k/yr salary.

Please tell me etx is not for East Tx.

etxag02 said:

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Only investing 20% of funds in two years is normal?

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Thank you for proving my point. Yes, it absolutely can be when dictated by the fund's objectives. To simplify it for you, if the fund's objective is to buy low and sell high, and almost all opportunities are overpriced, then investing in the 20% of opportunities that are priced appropriately is absolutely normal, in fact prudent. Again, educate yourself on how investment funds work. They're not remotely like stocks and bonds that the overwhelming majority of Americans have available to them.

etxag02 said:

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LOL! Tell me you don't know how to invest without telling me you don't know how to invest...

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Well, he's been doing billion dollar deals since college.

You've been trolling and failing on TexAgs for 3 years.

I'll take his opinion on investing before I take yours...

Well, the WSJ does not think it is normal, but what do they know. I'm sure AG81 knows best. LOL!

Could Jared's investment firm receiving money from investors to invest for them after Jared left the White House really be a kickback in disguise for past favors while Jared's father-in-law was running the White House? Perhaps we'll never know, but why then is this investment so public and transparent if it's actually nefarious corruption? Shouldn't he have used secrecy and shell companies if he wanted a corrupt kickback payment?

There's nothing wrong with getting money from foreign businesses, when you, gasp … do business with foreign businesses.

I realize some of the younger group don't understand this, but before the apprentice Trump was a businessman for 40 years.

etxag02 said:

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LOL! Tell me you don't know how to invest without telling me you don't know how to invest...

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Curious, which Securities licenses do you hold? Just trying to gauge YOUR expertise on the subject.

etxag02 said:

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Well, the WSJ does not think it is normal, but what do they know. I'm sure AG81 knows best. LOL!

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THAT is your basis for this? A WSJ story?

etxag02 said:

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Only investing 20% of funds in two years is normal?

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There's a saying in investment circles:

"When you see a train coming down the tracks, sometimes it's good to get off the tracks."

2022 was a train wreck. Many tactical firms were 100% cash through much of 2022 - PROTECTING their clients' investments. Even short term bond portfolios were hit hard due to rising rates eroding principal values. Advisers who weathered 2022 by only having their clients' down by the management fees WON BIG.

As "Joshua" famously said: "Sometimes the best move is not to play."

GAC06 said:

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Predictable deflections. Do better, Trumpians

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AG81 said:

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etxag02 said:

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LOL! Tell me you don't know how to invest without telling me you don't know how to invest...

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Curious, which Securities licenses do you hold? Just trying to gauge YOUR expertise on the subject.

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He has a license in talking **** and trolling on TexAgs...so he's got that going for him.

jrdaustin said:

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etxag02 said:

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Only investing 20% of funds in two years is normal?

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There's a saying in investment circles:

"When you see a train coming down the tracks, sometimes it's good to get off the tracks."

2022 was a train wreck. Many tactical firms were 100% cash through much of 2022 - PROTECTING their clients' investments. Even short term bond portfolios were hit hard due to rising rates eroding principal values. Advisers who weathered 2022 by only having their clients' down by the management fees WON BIG.

As "Joshua" famously said: "Sometimes the best move is not to play."

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That movie is LITERALLY on right now...saw it while I was channel surfing.

etxag02 said:

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Well, the WSJ does not think it is normal, but what do they know. I'm sure AG81 knows best. LOL!

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Yeah, that's not what the article said. Again, what investment licenses do you hold?

AG81 said:

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etxag02 said:

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Only investing 20% of funds in two years is normal?

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Thank you for proving my point. Yes, it absolutely can be when dictated by the fund's objectives. To simplify it for you, if the fund's objective is to buy low and sell high, and almost all opportunities are overpriced, then investing in the 20% of opportunities that are priced appropriately is absolutely normal, in fact prudent. Again, educate yourself on how investment funds work. They're not remotely like stocks and bonds that the overwhelming majority of Americans have available to them.

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And being discerning as a venture capitalist/market equity type (6 of 1000 pitches for instance referenced) is basic/good business.

If, on the other hand, Kushner was irresponsible, and made rapid terrible investments and lost a ton of money, while the Tel Aviv 125 stock market was off 25% for instance over the past 18 months, we all know what sort of headlines would be blasted about his liability for fiduciary duties/securities fraud/embezzlement charges that would flow like water over the Niagara Falls.

That he got all of the major arab $$$ countries to approve, on a special basis investing in Israeli companies is amazing, in itself.

Then, he was responsible with it, while building a new team, and firing some for being slow, and negotiating with funders vs. investors.

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A deal with Papaya came close, but was shelved after months of discussions.

"I think Jared is one of the brightest minds out there, and if I had an investment opportunity, he would definitely be one of my first calls," said Eynat Guez, the CEO at Papaya. "He started the fund when the market changed, and a lot of things did not happen because there is a huge valuation gap between investors and funders."
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While Affinity got off to a slow start, Kushner said he is now poised to take advantage of a more promising investment climate and is looking to invest another $800 million to $1 billion over the next year, with five or six deals on the horizon.

Kushner compared his work at Affinity to his White House work in the Middle East.

"If you would have asked: "Has Jared been successful in the Middle East after three years?" You would have said: no," he said. "But then in Year Four, all of the foundational hard work I put in during the previous three years manifested in breakthrough after breakthrough. I'm not worried about what others say about me. All I am worried about is delivering results."

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The article tries for some sensationalist angles, but is overall very positive in its portrayal of Jared, imho. It's bizarre to me that someone would use this as a slam/claim to some sort of ethical breach.

AG81 said:

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etxag02 said:

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Well, the WSJ does not think it is normal, but what do they know. I'm sure AG81 knows best. LOL!

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Yeah, that's not what the article said. Again, what investment licenses do you hold?

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In fairness, I'll start.

6, 7, 63, 65.

etxag02? Your turn now. Waiting....

Kvetch said:

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Muktheduck said:

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Kushner is a dirty rat. He and Hunter have been the most high profile of the last two presidencies, but don't kid yourself; there are plenty of people peddling influence in foreign countries to the tune of millions of dollars.

Our government is fantastically corrupt and self serving

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Except Kushner actually has a history of success, unlike some of the other nepo babies you libs turn a blind eye to.

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"You libs"

Kvetch said:

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Muktheduck said:

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Kushner is a dirty rat. He and Hunter have been the most high profile of the last two presidencies, but don't kid yourself; there are plenty of people peddling influence in foreign countries to the tune of millions of dollars.

Our government is fantastically corrupt and self serving

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Except Kushner actually has a history of success, unlike some of the other nepo babies you libs turn a blind eye to.

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For those of you in Austin who listen to Bob & Matt in the morning giving hell to the new "nepo baby" intern....


Yup, that my son.

etxag02 said:

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Only investing 20% of funds in two years is normal?

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That's correct. It's possibly a little low, but most big funds doing high diligence investments in swiftly growing companies take 4-5 years to make all of their initial investments, and it's common for them to save significant cash for follow up investments in the companies that are performing the best. Venture capital firms routinely hold 60%+ of the fund's money to make follow up investments in their winners during years 5-10. This isn't VC but it's not THAT different (invest in companies making huge expansions across certain geographic areas)

This is click bait BS written by arrogant journalists who didn't research the field they wanted to write about and therefore exposed themselves as partisan idiots willing to sell their professional credibility just to give gullible people like you the vapors.

I just wanted to add my take below.

Venture Capital is dumb money.

It's also perfect for all sorts of influence peddling and ethically questionable but legal money maneuvers. Sometimes by the funds, sometimes by the companies raising money.

Anyone in the business connected to powerful people is going to get more deal and money flow on their perceived network alone. Investors and founders are a bunch of lemmings and a lot of behavior is driven by perceived social status.

That doesn't mean well networked individuals are taking bribes. It just means they end up getting more interest because of their name recognition or their "brand".

TRADUCTOR said:

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President Trump did not help the kingdom. Debunked.

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Lots of deals between him and them.
Many presidents have had their bread buttered by their cash.

holy ***** did trump use his public office and his meager civil servant salary to get rich? ...damn. and I thought he was already rich and didn't even take a salary when he was in office.

Trump and his family were worth LESS than they were when Trump entered the White House.

First modern President that has happened to.

Facts.

but i thought Jared got PAID billions by the saudis for Trump favors!!!!!!!!

The thread is like a bug zapper reading the first page.

What's the point of this? Why should I care? Seems like a private dispute that isn't my business.

_mpaul said:

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What's the point of this? Why should I care? Seems like a private dispute that isn't my business.

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don't you care about corruption and protecting our democracy from the ex-president's son-in-law's investment firm that is trying to invest their clients' money?

nortex97 said:

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AG81 said:

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etxag02 said:

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Only investing 20% of funds in two years is normal?

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Thank you for proving my point. Yes, it absolutely can be when dictated by the fund's objectives. To simplify it for you, if the fund's objective is to buy low and sell high, and almost all opportunities are overpriced, then investing in the 20% of opportunities that are priced appropriately is absolutely normal, in fact prudent. Again, educate yourself on how investment funds work. They're not remotely like stocks and bonds that the overwhelming majority of Americans have available to them.

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And being discerning as a venture capitalist/market equity type (6 of 1000 pitches for instance referenced) is basic/good business.

If, on the other hand, Kushner was irresponsible, and made rapid terrible investments and lost a ton of money, while the Tel Aviv 125 stock market was off 25% for instance over the past 18 months, we all know what sort of headlines would be blasted about his liability for fiduciary duties/securities fraud/embezzlement charges that would flow like water over the Niagara Falls.

That he got all of the major arab $$$ countries to approve, on a special basis investing in Israeli companies is amazing, in itself.

Then, he was responsible with it, while building a new team, and firing some for being slow, and negotiating with funders vs. investors.

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A deal with Papaya came close, but was shelved after months of discussions.

"I think Jared is one of the brightest minds out there, and if I had an investment opportunity, he would definitely be one of my first calls," said Eynat Guez, the CEO at Papaya. "He started the fund when the market changed, and a lot of things did not happen because there is a huge valuation gap between investors and funders."
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While Affinity got off to a slow start, Kushner said he is now poised to take advantage of a more promising investment climate and is looking to invest another $800 million to $1 billion over the next year, with five or six deals on the horizon.

Kushner compared his work at Affinity to his White House work in the Middle East.

"If you would have asked: "Has Jared been successful in the Middle East after three years?" You would have said: no," he said. "But then in Year Four, all of the foundational hard work I put in during the previous three years manifested in breakthrough after breakthrough. I'm not worried about what others say about me. All I am worried about is delivering results."

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The article tries for some sensationalist angles, but is overall very positive in its portrayal of Jared, imho. It's bizarre to me that someone would use this as a slam/claim to some sort of ethical breach.

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I'm not surprised. Those who hate Trump do so to a point that they are no longer capable of rational thought.

jrdaustin said:

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AG81 said:

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etxag02 said:

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Well, the WSJ does not think it is normal, but what do they know. I'm sure AG81 knows best. LOL!

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Yeah, that's not what the article said. Again, what investment licenses do you hold?

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In fairness, I'll start.

6, 7, 63, 65.

etxag02? Your turn now. Waiting....

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Ditto......

And also waiting for etxag02 to put up. Maybe he chose to shut up instead.

TxTarpon said:

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TRADUCTOR said:

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President Trump did not help the kingdom. Debunked.

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Lots of deals between him and them.
Many presidents have had their bread buttered by their cash.

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Showing Trump as POTUS with the Saudis is disingenuous...

AG81 said:

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jrdaustin said:

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AG81 said:

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etxag02 said:

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Well, the WSJ does not think it is normal, but what do they know. I'm sure AG81 knows best. LOL!

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Yeah, that's not what the article said. Again, what investment licenses do you hold?

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In fairness, I'll start.

6, 7, 63, 65.

etxag02? Your turn now. Waiting....

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Ditto......

And also waiting for etxag02 to put up. Maybe he chose to shut up instead.

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Yeah...well...

How about 220, 221???

Glad he is making money above board unlike others we can't mention.

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Showing Trump as POTUS with the Saudis is disingenuous...

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better?

Oh yeah, Bush put a stop to the families in civil court.



As much as they hate Israel, you just know it has to be a good deal when the Saudis are giving a Jewish man cash.