AgFormerlyInIrving said:

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The left is killing this girl. I guess if they can't always kill them in the womb, kill them later in life.

Leftists are pure evil.

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Sterilizing at least

Admitted screed/rant incoming.
My nephew, at about the age of 16, decided that he wanted to become a she. He had been to lots and lots of therapy, all of it confirming that he was actually a she, for all intents and purposes from what I am told. The final say to give the "OK" for transgender hormone therapy was, guess what, a psychiatrist who was also transgender.
I basically STFU because I have a different faith, political leaning, and overall outlook on life that my sister-in-law and her family. I didn't spend a tremendous amount of time around my nephew, but nothing in his life ever would have made me think he wanted to be a girl. He was always a nice kid, a bit of a geek, but not off his rocker. His friends were pretty much wealthy kids who went to his same private quasi-religious school.

Fast forward to years later and my sister-in-law's best friend, whose daughter was transitioning to a boy, killed herself. Tragic. This threat was always what was hanging over my sister-in-law, pounded into her head by the team of "mental health experts" and endocrinologists all along the way. What happened to her best friend's cild was what my sister-in-law was always told would happen to her son if she did not let him transition.

As far as I know, my nephew never did any surgeries, but he did start Lupron, which blocks testosterone, and took female hormones before he was done with puberty. About 3-4 years later, my nephew decided he no longer wants to be a girl and he is absolutely FURIOUS with not only his parents but the community which cheered on his "transition". His own words - he now says that his parents should have institutionalized him until he let go of the ideas of transitioning. He also says he's mad at all of the "fake" woke people who cheered on his transition but at the end of the day don't really support or believe in it. It is an absolute nightmare for the family. I know that this is just an "N" of 1, but this is very close to me and I've had a front-row seat as it has unraveled. I cannot believe that this experience is all that unique within the trans world, either. Rant over.

annie88 said:

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This is just sad.

This is not okay.

Watch this young, confused person slowly destroy her body. This is what gender ideology does to people. Incredibly sad pic.twitter.com/y1T2JYqgRM

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) August 14, 2023

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You will never be a real man. You still look like a woman, act like a woman, and don't pass.

"Ringlets in the back". There has never been a natural born man who has ever said that at any point in time who wasn't also gay. This woman's future is being an invisible tiny effeminate manlet who will never be taken seriously as a man.

FTA 2001 said:

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I just cannot understand why you would want to take action that would increase suicide among transgender youth and adults.

It would make more sense if Republican legislatures were proposing increased funding for youth mental health services along with their legislation taking gender affirming care away from youths, but they are not doing this either. I really really pray this isn't the case, but its almost like they want these kids to kill themselves.


Suicide Risk Reduces 73% in Transgender, Nonbinary Youths with Gender-Affirming Care

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Transgender and nonbinary youths have particularly high rates of poor mental health outcomes compared with their cisgender counterparts. According to investigators, these disparities are likely a consequence of social rejection, lack of support from parents, bullying and discrimination.

Multiple sources of previously published research, found medical gender-affirming interventions to be helpful in improving the quality of life for transgender and nonbinary youths by decreasing rates of long-term mental health adverse outcomes

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https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/mental-health-benefits-associated-with-gender-affirming-surgery/

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Gender-affirming surgeries are associated with numerous positive health benefits, including lower rates of psychological distress and suicidal ideation.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2021/12/14/gender-affirming-care-linked-to-less-depression-lower-suicide-risk-for-trans-youth/?sh=6dc67d665d25

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Gender-Affirming Care Linked To Less Depression, Lower Suicide Risk For Trans Youth

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So much misinformation and lies

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-023-02576-9

'Methodologically Flawed': Key Studies That Inspired Trans Medicine Don't Hold Up, Doctors Argue


https://www.westernjournal.com/authors-largest-gender-transition-study-forced-admit-uncomfortable-truth/

A 2019 study that painted a rosy picture of the mental health benefits for individuals who undergo gender reassignment surgery was wrong, its authors have said in a published correction.

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/04/05/parents-report-declining-mental-health-in-post-transition-children-n541854

A new study from a psychology professor at Northwestern University appears to confirm something that many of us already suspected from more anecdotal data. Professor Michael Bailey reviewed survey data from more than 1,500 parents of children and young adults who had "transitioned" to the opposite gender. A large number of parents said that they felt "pressured" into supporting their children's transition.


And a majority said that the children displayed "worse mental health outcomes" after going through transgender treatments. This was most often observed in patients described as experiencing Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, where the condition seemingly "comes out of nowhere."


Further, European countries have restricted hormonal interventions to research settings, acknowledging the "very low" certainty of evidence for benefits. Finland's COHERE calls the use of puberty blockers and cross sex hormones to treat gender dysphoria in minors "an experimental practice."

Turban is one of the leading proponents of “minority stress” theory (or I should say, the minority stress insurance policy for doctors, since its end result is to ensure that any wrongful transitions were only wrong because “society is awful” and did not accept a person’s true…

— Leor Sapir (@LeorSapir) April 3, 2023

The Director of the Belgian Center for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBAM) Dr. Patrik Vankrunkelsven has joined a growing list of experts who are criticizing the highly medicalized "gender-affirming" treatment approach for minors with gender dysphoria as not evidence-based. /1


Europe is starting to realize giving hormone blockers to kids is not evidence based science, yet we are still doing it. Must be the money.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/huge-money-maker-video-reveals-vanderbilts-shocking-gender-care-threats-against-dissenting-doctors

"It's a lot of money," VUMC Clinic for Transgender Health's Dr. Shayne Sebold Taylor said at one Medicine Grand Rounds lecture, video reveals. "These surgeries make a lot of money."

Taylor noted that a "chest reconstruction" can bring in $40,000 per patient, and someone "just on routine hormone treatment, who I'm only seeing a few times a year, can bring in several thousand dollars … and actually makes money for the hospital."


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1642978692358889477.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2023/06/06/increasing-number-of-european-nations-adopt-a-more-cautious-approach-to-gender-affirming-care-among-minors/?sh=1fb2d0fb7efb

Increasing Number Of European Nations Adopt A More Cautious Approach To Gender-Affirming Care Among Minors

But caution with respect to gender-affirming care for minors may be warranted, as European experience indicates. A series of Europe-based systematic reviews of evidence for the benefits and risks of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones have shown a low certainty of benefits. Specifically, longitudinal data collected and analyzed by public health authorities in Finland, Sweden, the Netherlands and England have concluded that the risk-benefit ratio of youth gender transition ranges from unknown to unfavorable.

The thing that piwses me off about all these trans dudes is that they are over here rocking full beards and I cant grow half of one to save my damned life

Cute girl and this screams "just trying to be different" which leads teens to doing all sorts of regrettably dumb ****

TexAg1987 said:

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She doesn't know what she wants to be.

If she really wanted to be a boy, she would stop painting her nails and blowing kisses to the camera.

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It just wants attention. At any cost. So very, very sad.

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Highway6 said:

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At some point the law suits will start. That is the only thing to stop this insanity

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I think there is going to be all kinds of fallout. Lawsuits, suicides, murder/suicides...but also mass shooter type stuff...which we are already beginning to see it seems.

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It would be great if some of those who do this to themselves and later regret it would then retaliate against the doctors and others who played a role in it.

The kiss at the end was a nice manly touch.

I hope he has found peace with himself and how he fits into the world.

About 3-4 years later, my nephew decided he no longer wants to be a girl and he is absolutely FURIOUS with not only his parents but the community which cheered on his "transition". His own words - he now says that his parents should have institutionalized him until he let go of the ideas of transitioning. He also says he's mad at all of the "fake" woke people who cheered on his transition but at the end of the day don't really support or believe in it. It is an absolute nightmare for the family.

That poor kid. Shame on his parents, the doctors everyone. They all failed him.

It's all terrible. I love my sister-in-law (her husband is a bit of a D-bag to be honest), and I love my nephew. I got the news that he was transitioning in hindsight, and I have also gotten the news that he gave up the illusion in hindsight. There is no way to know exactly where everything went wrong. However, there were so many other things going on besides gender identity in his life. He not only rejected his gender, but he rejected the last year of high school. He rejected his faith and declared himself an atheist. He rejected capitalism and the U.S. and declared himself a Communist. But some geniuses in the medical community thought all would be good if he just followed what was natural and became a woman.

My sister- in-law moves in circles different from mine. She is very liberal, she and her friends trip over themselves to take up the banner of every Leftist cause they can and spray their fealty to Leftist causes over social media - BLM, killing the unborn, Gay Pride, you name it. They let their kids smoke pot at home because that's what all the other kids at his overprivileged quasi-religious school did. His Mom did NOT, however, celebrate his transitioning at all, and she is now furious about everything. All the while, her best friend was whispering in her ear, figuratively if not literally, about the risks of not allowing your child to transition. And, of course, the "expert" is there cheering it on. My nephew almost lost his life to childhood leukemia. That was REALLY hard on her and on the entire family. She then lost her son when he told her she never had a son in the first place, and now she is losing him by being blamed for letting him ruin years of his life. I hope anyone who cheers on what I think is a social contagion reads this and rethinks the wisdom of taking hormones or doing surgery at a time when their effects cannot be undone (pre completion of puberty).

FTA 2001 said:

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I just cannot understand why you would want to take action that would increase suicide among transgender youth and adults.

It would make more sense if Republican legislatures were proposing increased funding for youth mental health services along with their legislation taking gender affirming care away from youths, but they are not doing this either. I really really pray this isn't the case, but its almost like they want these kids to kill themselves.


Suicide Risk Reduces 73% in Transgender, Nonbinary Youths with Gender-Affirming Care

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Transgender and nonbinary youths have particularly high rates of poor mental health outcomes compared with their cisgender counterparts. According to investigators, these disparities are likely a consequence of social rejection, lack of support from parents, bullying and discrimination.

Multiple sources of previously published research, found medical gender-affirming interventions to be helpful in improving the quality of life for transgender and nonbinary youths by decreasing rates of long-term mental health adverse outcomes

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https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/mental-health-benefits-associated-with-gender-affirming-surgery/

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Gender-affirming surgeries are associated with numerous positive health benefits, including lower rates of psychological distress and suicidal ideation.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2021/12/14/gender-affirming-care-linked-to-less-depression-lower-suicide-risk-for-trans-youth/?sh=6dc67d665d25

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Gender-Affirming Care Linked To Less Depression, Lower Suicide Risk For Trans Youth

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Take the money you are blowing on expensive surgeries and hormones and instead spend it on the psychological care they really need. Any more questions?

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FTA 2001 said:

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I just cannot understand why you would want to take action that would increase suicide among transgender youth and adults.

It would make more sense if Republican legislatures were proposing increased funding for youth mental health services along with their legislation taking gender affirming care away from youths, but they are not doing this either. I really really pray this isn't the case, but its almost like they want these kids to kill themselves.


Suicide Risk Reduces 73% in Transgender, Nonbinary Youths with Gender-Affirming Care

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Transgender and nonbinary youths have particularly high rates of poor mental health outcomes compared with their cisgender counterparts. According to investigators, these disparities are likely a consequence of social rejection, lack of support from parents, bullying and discrimination.

Multiple sources of previously published research, found medical gender-affirming interventions to be helpful in improving the quality of life for transgender and nonbinary youths by decreasing rates of long-term mental health adverse outcomes

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https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/mental-health-benefits-associated-with-gender-affirming-surgery/

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Gender-affirming surgeries are associated with numerous positive health benefits, including lower rates of psychological distress and suicidal ideation.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2021/12/14/gender-affirming-care-linked-to-less-depression-lower-suicide-risk-for-trans-youth/?sh=6dc67d665d25

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Gender-Affirming Care Linked To Less Depression, Lower Suicide Risk For Trans Youth

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Take the money you are blowing on expensive surgeries and hormones and instead spend it on the psychological care they really need. Any more questions?

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Also, I believe there's been a lot of holes poked in studies like the one from Seattle/ Univ of Washington cited throughout the 1st article linked above, regarding whether gender reassignment / permanent mutilation surgeries or permanent sterilization hormone therapies for youths, whose brains aren't done developing yet, really reduces future suicide attempts or not.

Also, kinda like crushing a fetus's skull with forceps and throwing it in a trash can isn't "reproductive health care", chopping dicks or breasts off and attaching or inverting new body parts from other organs is not "gender reaffirming care".

frenchtoast said:

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I hope he has found peace with himself and how he fits into the world.

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Fun fact: not a he/him.

Encouraging groomers want to see the child's updates and she loves the groomer attention she gets for destroying her body.

My take is one that both sides will hate, but IMO this was handled much better 20 years ago.

Nobody's transitioning as a child or minor, and you live as the gender you feel you are for a full year before you get a drop of any sort of hormone or anything medical whatsoever. That's in addition to regular visits with a counselor who's unbiased either for or against making the switch (rare as the offspring of a unicorn and Pegasus, I know).

If at that point everything is good, life is well and makes sense now, congratulations. You are one of the very few people who genuinely need to go through with it. Other options have been exhausted, vetting has been done, society in general shouldn't be an ass about it.

But this will never happen because to the left this is 'literally literal hitler' because of gatekeeping and denial. And the right will hate it because studies of genetics, and physical and neural differences of the brain are quietly ignored. The voices at the end of one side or the other are the only ones heard.

BG Knocc Out said:

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Highway6 said:

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At some point the law suits will start. That is the only thing to stop this insanity

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I think there is going to be all kinds of fallout. Lawsuits, suicides, murder/suicides...but also mass shooter type stuff...which we are already beginning to see it seems.

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Suicide is rampant among this group and watching that video it's easy to see why.

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annie88 said:

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Did her parents support this?

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It has tattoos. So I'm assuming it is 18.

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I think that used to be a safe bet but I don't know if that holds true here in 2023.