Can someone tell me what a ghost gun is ?

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Ags77
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I know lots of yall will know this. Is it as simple as "homemade " ?
Emotional Support Cobra
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A dead gun trapped here due to unfinished earthly business.
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American Hardwood
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A "ghost gun" is mostly a term used by the left to scare people into thinking we have a gun problem. See also "pistol braces", "bump stocks", "high-capacity magazines", "silencers", and "assault rifles".
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Ags77 said:

I know lots of yall will know this. Is it as simple as "homemade " ?


Gun made of the parts individually ordered with no serial numbers.
The_Waco_Kid
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Whatever politicians claim it is. Anything from homemade (legal) to no serial number (legal unless it was defaced) to black powder, squirt guns, airsoft, etc. There is no legal definition, unlike that for "assault rifle," which is "a select-fire rifle of intermediate caliber."
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partially manufactured firearm components, related firearm products, and other tools and materials
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an evil black rifle that has since shuffled loose its mortal coil, haunting the realm of man
Fireman
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A gun that only votes Democrat following it's demise.
GE
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Per the AI:
A "ghost gun" typically refers to a firearm that is homemade or assembled from parts, often without a serial number. These guns can be built using kits, 3D-printed components, or other methods, making them difficult to trace by law enforcement. The term "ghost gun" is often used in discussions about unregulated firearms that can bypass traditional gun control measures.
Cromagnum
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Obligatory

Ags77
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GE said:

Per the AI:
A "ghost gun" typically refers to a firearm that is homemade or assembled from parts, often without a serial number. These guns can be built using kits, 3D-printed components, or other methods, making them difficult to trace by law enforcement. The term "ghost gun" is often used in discussions about unregulated firearms that can bypass traditional gun control measures.


Thanks. I've been around guns my whole life and until recently, I had never heard the term "ghost" gun.

Sounds like it's mostly defined as being homemade made up of ordered parts.

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The only ghost gun I know is Grey Ghost Precision, a small gun manufacturer located in Wallace, ID.

Grey Ghost Precision
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Trump will fix it.
Burdizzo
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Ags77 said:

GE said:

Per the AI:
A "ghost gun" typically refers to a firearm that is homemade or assembled from parts, often without a serial number. These guns can be built using kits, 3D-printed components, or other methods, making them difficult to trace by law enforcement. The term "ghost gun" is often used in discussions about unregulated firearms that can bypass traditional gun control measures.


Thanks. I've been around guns my whole life and until recently, I had never heard the term "ghost" gun.

Sounds like it's mostly defined as being homemade made up of ordered parts.




Typically refers to AR style firearms. You can assemble those gus all day long with an infinite number parts available. The only part the ATF tracks with a serial number is the lower receiver. Any AR style lowe receiver that can have parts attached to it to make a functioning firearm must have a serial number. What the market figured out is that if you create a receiver that is 80% complete and unable to attach other parts, then it doesn't require a serial number. There is a market for these untraceable parts. People can buy them, and with some fairly common machine tools and little skill they can be finished into a complete lower receiver. From there you can add the rest of the parts to make it a functioning firearm with no serial number. You can even sell it to a friend with out a serial number. This is all legal. But if it looks like you are doing this frequently and selling to a lot of people then all the sudden you are a firearms manufacturer, and what you sell needs a serial number. These guns without numbers are what are often referred to as ghost guns.
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American Hardwood said:

A "ghost gun" is mostly a term used by the left to scare people into thinking we have a gun problem. See also "pistol braces", "bump stocks", "high-capacity magazines", "silencers", and "assault rifles".


Is it like the plastic Glock scare back in the day that the guns wouldn't be able to be detected by x-ray?
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Ags77 said:

GE said:

Per the AI:
A "ghost gun" typically refers to a firearm that is homemade or assembled from parts, often without a serial number. These guns can be built using kits, 3D-printed components, or other methods, making them difficult to trace by law enforcement. The term "ghost gun" is often used in discussions about unregulated firearms that can bypass traditional gun control measures.


Thanks. I've been around guns my whole life and until recently, I had never heard the term "ghost" gun.

Sounds like it's mostly defined as being homemade made up of ordered parts.


Like all things liberals do - it's meant to instill fear in the general populace. Therefore it is a term of "feelz" and not "facts".
Ags77
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Thanks for all the answers. I was watching a report on the Supreme Court's recent 5-4 vote and was trying to make sense of it.
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Burdizzo said:

Ags77 said:

GE said:

Per the AI:
A "ghost gun" typically refers to a firearm that is homemade or assembled from parts, often without a serial number. These guns can be built using kits, 3D-printed components, or other methods, making them difficult to trace by law enforcement. The term "ghost gun" is often used in discussions about unregulated firearms that can bypass traditional gun control measures.


Thanks. I've been around guns my whole life and until recently, I had never heard the term "ghost" gun.

Sounds like it's mostly defined as being homemade made up of ordered parts.




Typically refers to AR style firearms. You can assemble those gus all day long with an infinite number parts available. The only part the ATF tracks with a serial number is the lower receiver. Any AR style receiver stat can have parts attached to it to make a functioning firearm must have a serial number. What the market figured out is that if you create a receiver that is 80% complete and unable to attach other parts, then it doesn't require a serial number. There is a market for these untraceable parts. People can buy them, and with some fairly common machine tools and a a little skill thamey can be finished into a complete lower receiver. From there you can add the rest of the parts to make it a functioning firearm with no serial number. You can even sell it to a friend with out a serial number. This is all legal. But if it looks like you are doing this frequently and selling to a lot of people then all the sudden you are a firearms manufacturer, and what you sell needs a serial number. These guns without numbers are what are often referred to as ghost guns.
Also very common with Glock clones, especially now that the Gen 3 and older are off patent.
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Burdizzo said:

Ags77 said:

GE said:

Per the AI:
A "ghost gun" typically refers to a firearm that is homemade or assembled from parts, often without a serial number. These guns can be built using kits, 3D-printed components, or other methods, making them difficult to trace by law enforcement. The term "ghost gun" is often used in discussions about unregulated firearms that can bypass traditional gun control measures.


Thanks. I've been around guns my whole life and until recently, I had never heard the term "ghost" gun.

Sounds like it's mostly defined as being homemade made up of ordered parts.


Typically refers to AR style firearms. You can assemble those gus all day long with an infinite number parts available. The only part the ATF tracks with a serial number is the lower receiver. Any AR style receiver stat can have parts attached to it to make a functioning firearm must have a serial number. What the market figured out is that if you create a receiver that is 80% complete and unable to attach other parts, then it doesn't require a serial number. There is a market for these untraceable parts. People can buy them, and with some fairly common machine tools and a a little skill thamey can be finished into a complete lower receiver. From there you can add the rest of the parts to make it a functioning firearm with no serial number. You can even sell it to a friend with out a serial number. This is all legal. But if it looks like you are doing this frequently and selling to a lot of people then all the sudden you are a firearms manufacturer, and what you sell needs a serial number. These guns without numbers are what are often referred to as ghost guns.
Beto convinced me to toss a brand new lower in the river on my way home from work every time he spoke of confiscation. After about a dozen trips to the river to feed the catfish I realized that I had an awful lot of ATF background checks recorded and needed to diversify into paranormal catfish bait, jigs, and milling bits.
Ags77
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So these "ghost " guns are banned now ?
deddog
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Ags77 said:

I know lots of yall will know this. Is it as simple as "homemade " ?
Homemade weapon that requires at least some level of skill, money and resourcefulness.
Might need a 3D printer, or tools, drill bits etc.

Because you are working with "raw" material, you don't need a serial number.

This is not what your average criminal will use. Too much work.
Far more likely to be used by liberty minded law abiding citizens and hobbyists which is why it's being demonized.
schmellba99
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Legally speaking, if you manufacture a firearm (such as an AR from an 80% lower or a billet of T7071 aluminum if you are awesomer than me and have a CNC handy), you are not required as an individual to serialize that firearm until point of sale.

So if you make it for yourself and never sell it, there is no legal requirement to have a serial number, manufacturer, etc engraved on the lower. The second you decide to sell it, you must serialize it. Because rules and what not.

To politicians - that is a "ghost gun", because it is not serialized and therefore not capable of [easily] being traced through serial number tracking and the 4473 database that isn't supposed to exist but anybody with a shred of common sense knows actually does exist at the ATF.
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Cromagnum said:

Obligatory


Came to post this.
schmellba99
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Ags77 said:

Thanks for all the answers. I was watching a report on the Supreme Court's recent 5-4 vote and was trying to make sense of it.
Biden and his gestapo used an EO to ban the sale of 80% lowers. Naturally, this was challenged and a lower court ruled that the EO was illegal.

Biden and his government gestapo appealed the decision, and today the SC ruled that the temporary ban be reinstated so that the court can hear oral arguments. Basically they said "we want to rule on this, get back to the lower court and have an actual hearing so it can be appealed to us for final ruling".

Now, that might be a good thing, but I have little faith in Roberts and was kind of shocked that Barrett agreed with him on sending this back down. But I'm hoping the motive was to get it in the courts formally so it could be ruled upon instead of just fighting with injunctions and appeals, etc.
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Something criminals are to lazy to build so they just steal them from citizens that bought them legally but the left is dead set on limiting citizens from practicing the 2nd amendment.
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CanyonAg77
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Burdizzo with the full and complete answer
nortex97
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All we know is that John Roberts and the other leftists on SCOTUS are afraid of ghost guns and think it's fine for the government to discriminate against them on the basis of their lack of completeness/mean feelings.
Burdizzo
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Yes, thanks for adding that. I don't keep up with it that much.

And ftr, I have no issue with unserialized guns. I don't think it is the government's business what firearms I or anyone else owns.
Psycho Bunny
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Ags77 said:

I know lots of yall will know this. Is it as simple as "homemade " ?
Just ask one of your fed boy coworkers, I'm sure they have the answer.
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