Never heard of it. But apparently they have only been happening in Juno since 2011. Libs blame global warming. I blame poor planning. Apparently an ice damn broke up river. Why couldn't they have broke it sooner instead of letting it melt on its own?



https://www.ktoo.org/2023/08/05/city-recommends-evacuations-as-juneau-sees-record-flooding-from-glacial-outburst-flood/

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8LXBsaQ/

That TikTok is kind of amazing to watch. Only took 6 hours to was away all those trees and a house.

This is from the Mendenhall River Floods in Alaska.

This happened over a span of six hours. 😧

Can you imagine watching that happen to your home knowing there’s nothing that can save it? pic.twitter.com/VGxXMFlWqI

— Ryan Shead (@RyanShead) August 6, 2023

A tweet for those that don't China app

man lives next to river

man complains when river does river things

nature wins again

That's why I never found many arrowheads next to rivers. Creeks yes, but not rivers.

Indians had a lot more sense than the Whiteman,

The water is coming from an area called Suicide Basin (sounds aptly named) and has been happening annually since 2011 (because of climate change obviously).

It sucks that those folks lost their houses but... Building next to a river of glacial meltwater is probably not the best plan.

When I lived in Valdez, Alaska we had flooding from snowmelt every year which is why nobody lived next to Mineral Creek.

It's been happening annually since some people decided to live in the affected area long enough to experience a cycle of it….

Wyoming said:

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That's why I never found many arrowheads next to rivers. Creeks yes, but not rivers.

Indians had a lot more sense than the Whiteman,

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London has the Thames, Paris has the Seine, Egypt has the Nile.

Obviously we need to put up a giant curtain in space between us and the sun so people can live safely next to a glacially fed river in Alaska.

Luke 6
Everyone who comes to me and hears my words and does them, I will show you what he is like: he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when a flood arose, the stream broke against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built. But the one who hears and does not do them is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. When the stream broke against it, immediately it fell, and the ruin of that house was great."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke.6.47,Luke.6.48,Luke.6.49&version=ESV

River of tears brought on by climate hysteria

sts7049 said:

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man lives next to river

man complains when river does river things

nature wins again

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Juneau they weren't expecting to even have an issue.

Flash floods in mountain valleys... Who could have predicted it.

Man decides to play chicken with Nature in Alaska.

Man loses.

Democrats: Americans need to pay higher taxes to the UN to stop this from happening!

It happens.

BillYeoman said:

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Wyoming said:

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That's why I never found many arrowheads next to rivers. Creeks yes, but not rivers.

Indians had a lot more sense than the Whiteman,

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London has the Thames, Paris has the Seine, Egypt has the Nile.

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They all also flood to varying degrees, they are less of an issue now because of massive infrastructure put in place to minimize and control the impact. For instance prior to the Aswan Dam in Egypt the flooding of the Nile was considered a massive problem but it also provided the silt and nutrients to help with crop growth. The Thames and Seine have had severe flooding throughout history, especially in the deeper past before modern engineering and building codes. Though both of those rivers have tended to have a more gradual flooding as opposed to catastrophic flooding due to a variety of factors.

Inevitably there are limits to how much we will do and can do to control rivers and nature and if nature really wants to it will win. I remember a fateful conversation with a friend from New Orleans a couple years before Katrina where I told him that eventually a hurricane would hit in just the right spot and flood everything. He scoffed at me and talked about how bit the levees were and that it would never happen. People live next to something like that and they just get comfortable or they don't want to think about the unthinkable. Same with folks that live next to volcanoes. Nature is far more powerful than we are.

Someone, please tell me how much taxes we need to pay to get this glacier to freeze again?

ABATTBQ87 said:

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Luke 6
Everyone who comes to me and hears my words and does them, I will show you what he is like: he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when a flood arose, the stream broke against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built. But the one who hears and does not do them is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. When the stream broke against it, immediately it fell, and the ruin of that house was great."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke.6.47,Luke.6.48,Luke.6.49&version=ESV

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So, don't build your house in a wadi?

Zarathustra said:

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Someone, please tell me how much taxes we need to pay to get this glacier to freeze again?

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Whatever Al Gore, John Kerry, the Chinese and Indians tell us we need to pay. And maybe throw in a Ukraine donation while we're at it.

Reminds me of the episode on Survivor where they made camp in a river bed.

It didn't turn out well.

Why would an insurance company insure those properties?

Logos Stick said:

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Reminds me of the episode on Survivor where they made camp in a river bed.

It didn't turn out well.

Why would an insurance company insure those properties?

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I thought flood insurance was a federal program.

It would make sense that no company would be dumb enough to insure such places, but the government would

Conservative Christian Republican voters and Small Business owners caused this house to fall into the river.

Bigots.

When I retired, I started doing contract work for FEMA inspecting structures involved in natural disasters, mostly hurricanes. We had training sessions and the company doing the training was always going to Alaska to process claims for this....nearly every year! That was nearly twenty years ago. This is nothing new, it just happens to be associated with a glacier, so CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!

thanks for the reminder that mother nature is an awesome power.

obama's chef died from climate change....it's the new covid

CanyonAg77 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Reminds me of the episode on Survivor where they made camp in a river bed.

It didn't turn out well.

Why would an insurance company insure those properties?

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I thought flood insurance was a federal program.

It would make sense that no company would be dumb enough to insure such places, but the government would

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Thanks, I did not know that.

Rivers have been meandering for as long as water has been around, I suppose.

Wait until the Mississippi River changes course and runs down the Atchafalaya River. Our taxes will go through the roof to save us from CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!

I'm jumping on the "yeah, this happens" train. This year is worse but it is nothing new. I worked at the National Weather Service in Anchorage for 8 years. Along with the Alaska-Pacific River Forecast Center, we monitored several glacial dams that release at various times. Because the glacial dams release so quickly without warning, we had ways to monitor and let folks downstream know. You don't want to be wading in the water fishing when those flood waters arrive.

There is a neat website where you can see all of the glacial dams and the history of releases.

This one shows you Suicide Glacial Dam on Mendenhall. The observations go back to 2011 but I'm sure there were releases before that.

buzzardb267 said:

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Wait until the Mississippi River changes course and runs down the Atchafalaya River. Our taxes will go through the roof to save us from CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!

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Thanks to the Army Corps of Engineers and an un-Godly amoutn of tax dollars spent annually, we keep this from happening.

Then everybody wondrers why the swamps and marshes are showing incresing rates of decline from saltwater intrusion. They love to blame the O&G industry for it too with pipelines, but that has almost nothing to do with things.

sts7049 said:

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man lives next to river

man complains when river does river things

nature wins again

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Obviously we need to go up there and spend a few billion in taxpayer dollars building a dam, because rivers flooding is a bad thing in the eyes of modern man. Or something like that.

buzzardb267 said:

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Wait until the Mississippi River changes course and runs down the Atchafalaya River. Our taxes will go through the roof to save us from CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!

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Didn't that almost happen during a flood back in the 70's or something like that? I remember reading something about that a while back. I believe the Army corps of engineers came in and saved the day.

sts7049 said:

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man lives next to river

man complains when river does river things

nature wins again

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Needs another star

That video may be from my daughter's friend who is working a summer job in Juneau. I've been to Juneau a couple of times. The city is like 30 miles long and only a half mile wide. I hiked straight up out of town into mountains to pick salmon berries. You never know whom you might be competing with for those berries. When the plane took off from the airport, it immediately did a steep bank to avoid hitting Mendenhall Glacier. No way would I build a house in the path of that sucker. But the again, there may not be much land in Juneau that isn't on a steep hill, on the beach, or in the path of the glacier. Crazy to think that the state capital isn't accessible by car. They still have their legislative sessions in winter because it's the only time of year the mushers can make it to their flights in Anchorage. But maybe these days they can get flights from Kotzebue, Nome, Bethel, etc.

We were literally just at Mendenhall Lake and glacier last week. Freaky.