damiond said:

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psychology is controlled by leftists

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go figure when one side of the culture war says that real men don't have inner lives of any complexity and the fact that women do makes them lesser than men

When I was a senior at A&M I took The Psychology of Human Sexual Development as an elective. Hoooolllllle **** balls. Everyone in that class was a total fruit bowl. And prof was just as crazy. This was 93 and I had no idea there were people like that at A&M.

Sims said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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Madagascar said:

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As a psychology major, I fully support this. The only psychology related topics that teenagers should be learning in HS are coping strategies for dealing with their stressors so they don't turn into big snowflakes.

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huh? High schoolers who know nothing of psychology outside of coping strategies are doomed. I'm not saying they need to be able to recite psych texts, but a basic understanding of what substances can do to a brain, ethical foundations, an ability to understand human behavioral drivers, an ability to recognize healthy vs unhealthy personalities…

I'm not saying those things must be taught exclusively in a psych class, but I'd argue that the "coping strategy" popularity is a bandaide on a sucking chest wound. Develop young people who are properly moored, and they'll ride through normal adversity without even noticing it. Develop men who can chew through the slings and arrows of life and they won't need to lean on "mental health breaks" and similar coping strategies.

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First thing that popped into my mind when I read your response was...

"Hey Dad, will you teach me about your life experiences and how I should behave?"

"No, son. Just download the psychology app from the app. store and go through that."

"Thanks Dad!"

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Fair - most of it doesn't come from a formal class. But things like the Stanford Prison Experiment help greatly in learning and understanding history (and its lessons).

My reply was as a rebuttal of the idea that HS'ers "only need coping strategies" insofar as psychology learning is concerned.

Kvetch said:

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If they're teaching "gender affirming care," it's good for everyone that the program is shut down. Last thing we need is more crackpot psychologists.

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It's not. The only thing they teach is "how sex and gender influence socialization and other aspects of development.". You can go and read everything they teach on the college board website.

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Psychology is not political but conservatives are forcing it to be.

In the CED? What is the suggested skill?

It's in the OP article.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Psychology is not political but conservatives are forcing it to be.

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lol

lb3 said:

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Texas and Florida should ban all AP courses until the AP removes the gender affirming care from their psychology tests. The loss of revenue from test takers from those two huge states would have them rolling over in short order.

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Is gender affirming care on their psych test?

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"We are sad to have learned that today the Florida Department of Education has effectively banned AP Psychology in the state by instructing Florida superintendents that teaching foundational content on sexual orientation and gender identity is illegal under state law," the College Board said. "The state has said districts are free to teach AP Psychology only if it excludes any mention of these essential topics."

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"Foundational content," huh?

Anti-taxxer said:

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I taught AP Psych for four years. Granted, I haven't taught the course since 2018, but I don't remember there being anything more than perhaps a sentence in the textbook about transgenderism or homosexuality or anything of the sort.

I genuinely don't even remember which chapter or unit it was a part of. We talked about it as a part of a discussion on hurdles teenagers are faced with. That's it.

This article makes it sound like there is an entire unit focused on this topic. Unless the course has been drastically revised I'm the last five years, that simply isn't the case.

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Given how much this topic has changed in the last 5 years, I would be shocked if it has not changed dramatically since the last time you taught it.

Shouldn't that be something that someone on here proves. I've seen no evidence that it has changed.

My daughter took AP Psychology last year - said there was nothing in it about sexual orientation, sexual identity.

MasonB said:

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My daughter took AP Psychology last year - said there was nothing in it about sexual orientation, sexual identity.

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Then it sounds like the College Board is lying to make a political statement. I know I am shocked.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Psychology is not political but conservatives are forcing it to be.

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Lots of things are not inherently political. But the notion that it is conservatives forcing these things to be political is laughably the most ridiculous thing I have seen today.

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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Psychology is not political but conservatives are forcing it to be.

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Lots of things are not inherently political. But the notion that it is conservatives forcing these things to be political is laughably the most ridiculous thing I have seen today.

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Wonder if AP Psych has a section on "projection" or if the lefties made them take it out for the trans unit

Haven't read the entire thread yet, but here's the facts from my perspective on the ground here. I teach AP Gov/Econ in central Florida, and the AP Psych teacher is in my department.

Florida's infamous (and highly misrepresented) "Don't Say Gay" bill (which I wholeheartedly support in its original form) was expanded to cover through 12th grade. The state requested that College Board remove the standards regarding gender and sexuality from the AP course outline. College Board refused because that stuff is taught in Psych 101 courses in college. So the state said last week that AP Psych can no longer be taught.

Now, there are still great alternatives for students wanting to take the course. They can take a dual enrollment course at the local community college. Our school just switched it over to the Cambridge AICE version, which doesn't cover the gender stuff. It's not near the end of the world it's being painted out to be.

All that said, I don't think the ban on gender/sexuality topics should have been extended to 12th grade. But I also know that if we allowed it a bunch of my idiot colleagues would take that as carte blanche to teach the far left crap that so many of them espouse.

swc93 said:

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Aug 3 (Reuters) - Florida has told school superintendents that an Advanced Placement psychology course offered to high school students violates a new state law prohibiting instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity, the nonprofit that develops the courses said on Thursday.

"The Florida Department of Education has effectively banned AP Psychology in the state," the College Board said in a statement, referring to the guidance.

The move is the latest by the administration of Republican Governor Ron DeSantis to limit instruction about LGBTQ issues and race in the state. DeSantis is challenging former U.S. President Donald Trump for the Republican nomination for president in 2024 and has made battles over cultural issues a centerpiece of his campaign.


Seems pretty straight (pun intended) forward to me.

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Reuters....lol

Also, you got exposed, anything else?

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Psychology is not political but conservatives are forcing it to be.

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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Psychology is not political but conservatives are forcing it to be.

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Within a generation of the establishment of what is now considered modern psychology, it was being used as a propaganda tool by the national socialists in Germany.

You're insane.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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Psychology is not political but conservatives are forcing it to be.

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it is back
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-backs-down-censoring-ap-150016110.html

damiond said:

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it is back
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-backs-down-censoring-ap-150016110.html

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Lol, first, good job linking to The Advocate. I'm sure they're giving a completely neutral, objective report on the issue.

Second that's a very misleading headline and the state did not back down. The education commissioner simply clarified the State's stance which has been the same since the beginning. The AP course has never been banned in FL. The course can and will be taught, it simply has to meet the state's guidelines per the recent legislation.

The problem is that the liberal MSM media sources (like the one you linked) intentionally kept reporting the course was effectively banned in FL. See how that works? Using the word "effectively" they can stir up anger by lying that the course has been banned.

So the state hasn't changed or backtracked. They're simply getting the truth out there so your favorite MSM sources like The Advocate can't control the narrative.

But nice try, I guess. Or maybe a half-ass try.

so are they teach more than one gender and gender fluidity or not
it looks like they are

damiond said:

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it is back
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-backs-down-censoring-ap-150016110.html

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As it should be.

damiond said:

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so are they teach more than one gender and gender fluidity or not
it looks like they are

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Evidence?

Martin Q. Blank said:

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Quote:

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Last thing we need is more crackpot psychologists.

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Way too late. Psychology has the highest concentration of liberals and atheists in all of academia.

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You misspelled "journalism".

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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damiond said:

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so are they teach more than one gender and gender fluidity or not
it looks like they are

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Evidence?

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ap psyc coarse section 6.7
"essentially gender is learned aspects of our sex"

damiond said:

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so are they teach more than one gender and gender fluidity or not
it looks like they are

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There is more than one gender. In fact, there are two. Hth

only two hth

What exactly did he say that you have an issue with?