Kamala misreps Florida history

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Rongagin71
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DeSantis is the target and lying is allowed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cnn-panelist-calls-out-vp-harris-over-completely-made-up-florida-slavery-curriculum-claim/ar-AA1eff4c?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=028c1414106149bab4a14a6888ce7384&ei=11
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Her defense to any accusation about lying though is great; she's too stupid to know she is lying.
Owlagdad
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Her lips are moving.
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There's a lot of folks on the left that owe VP Dan Quayle a huge apology.
fka ftc
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Owlagdad said:

Her lips are moving.
That doesn't mean she is lying, she could be interviewing for a new position or just getting "input" from her boss.
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fka ftc said:

Owlagdad said:

Her lips are moving.
That doesn't mean she is lying, she could be interviewing for a new position or just getting "input" from her boss.


I think her current boss has some input that doesn't work
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nortex97 said:

Her defense to any accusation about lying though is great; she's too stupid to know she is lying.
It does not matter if it is literally true, it is that she/liberals think it is true that counts.

That goes for most liberal agendas...
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I wonder if she'll address her family's slavery legacy...
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At least it started a conversation about how Kamala lies
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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JohnLA762
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She can't help but lie…

annie88
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All Democrats lie all the time. Literally like every time they open their mouth. And the media just sits there and ignores it or defends it.

Some Republicans do as well, but not nearly as many.
Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
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Remember when Trump was in office and there were leaks just about every month meant to hurt him? Recorded conversations and telephone calls with high ranking foreign leaders. Now we get nothing. Clear that there's a Washington machine that cares more about their team than the country
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Kamala Harris Is Brazenly Lying about Florida's Slavery Curriculum

Paywall, but there's the point:

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This is a brazen lie. It's an astonishing lie. It's an evil lie. It is so untrue so deliberately and cynically misleading that, in a sensible political culture, Harris would be obligated to issue an apology. Instead, NBC confirms that she will repeat the lie today during a speech in Jacksonville.


I have copied and pasted every single reference to slavery, slaves, abolitionism, civil rights, and African Americans that is in the document. For those interested, the full curriculum (along with the curriculum for the teaching of the Holocaust) is here.


There is simply no way of perusing this course and concluding that it "gaslights" people or whitewashes slavery. Among many, many other things, it includes sections on "the conditions for Africans during their passage to America"; "the living conditions of slaves in British North American colonies, the Caribbean, Central America and South America, including infant mortality rates"; "the harsh conditions and their consequences on British American plantations (e.g., undernourishment, climate conditions, infant and child mortality rates of the enslaved vs. the free)"; "the harsh conditions in the Caribbean plantations (i.e., poor nutrition, rigorous labor, disease)"; "how the South tried to prevent slaves from escaping and their efforts to end the Underground Railroad"; the "overwhelming death rates" caused by the practice; the many ways in which "Africans resisted slavery"; "the ramifications of prejudice, racism and stereotyping on individual freedoms"; and "the struggles faced by African American women in the 19th century as it relates to issues of suffrage, business and access to education." Many of these modules apply to Florida specifically.

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annie88 said:

All Democrats lie all the time. Literally like every time they open their mouth. And the media just sits there and ignores it or defends it.

Some Republicans do as well, but not nearly as many.
The funny thing here is that it's CNN identifying the lie. Shows how much they really want DeSantis to come back and beat Trump.
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it's not CNN though, it's a republican who is a contributor on CNN. the other panelists and the CNN viewership just laugh off they guy calling Kamala a liar and dismiss HIM as the liar.
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Science Denier said:

annie88 said:

All Democrats lie all the time. Literally like every time they open their mouth. And the media just sits there and ignores it or defends it.

Some Republicans do as well, but not nearly as many.
The funny thing here is that it's CNN identifying the lie. Shows how much they really want DeSantis to come back and beat Trump.


Come on, man. Do you really take whatever Desantis supporters or his campaign states and just try to spin it around to claim its actually the opposite (e.g. "Actually, the media really wants Desantis to beat Trump!")? Its lazy, unoriginal, and as transparent as can be.

The Dems clearly hate Trump (duh, water is wet) and obviously there's ton of evidence to that. There's no need to stretch reality beyond believability by spinning a ridiculous claim like the media is rooting for Desantis. If you were to claim the media is rooting for Ramaswamy or Scott or Christie, ok, that's believable. But dude, stuff like this is where you lose any credibility.
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Many slaves definitely benefited from slavery, but their direct offspring CERTAINLY did. Every single one.

My only point is that FL would not be wrong if they were teaching this, which they are not.
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oh no said:

it's not CNN though, it's a republican who is a contributor on CNN. the other panelists and the CNN viewership just laugh off they guy calling Kamala a liar and dismiss HIM as the liar.
That is exactly what happened.
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FL_Ag1998 said:

Science Denier said:

annie88 said:

All Democrats lie all the time. Literally like every time they open their mouth. And the media just sits there and ignores it or defends it.

Some Republicans do as well, but not nearly as many.
The funny thing here is that it's CNN identifying the lie. Shows how much they really want DeSantis to come back and beat Trump.


Come on, man. Do you really take whatever Desantis supporters or his campaign states and just try to spin it around to claim its actually the opposite (e.g. "Actually, the media really wants Desantis to beat Trump!")? Its lazy, unoriginal, and as transparent as can be.

The Dems clearly hate Trump (duh, water is wet) and obviously there's ton of evidence to that. There's no need to stretch reality beyond believability by spinning a ridiculous claim like the media is rooting for Desantis. If you were to claim the media is rooting for Ramaswamy or Scott or Christie, ok, that's believable. But dude, stuff like this is where you lose any credibility.
No. My point to the OP was that I agree with her that the media would never report this. You wouldn't see it anywhere. Many times in the past a panelist or individual interviewer would say something the media would not like, and it would just get buried.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Many slaves definitely benefited from slavery, but their direct offspring CERTAINLY did. Every single one.

My only point is that FL would not be wrong if they were teaching this, which they are not.
They are saying that slaves learned a trade and ussed that trade once slavery was over. At least, according to the Travis/Sexton show.

Harris is lying by saying they are teaching this was some sort of benefit of slavery. Nowhere in the book does it spin this as a benefit of slavery.
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CNN turning on Joe and Kamala lately. The powerful in the dim party must really want Newsome.
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Science Denier said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

Science Denier said:

annie88 said:

All Democrats lie all the time. Literally like every time they open their mouth. And the media just sits there and ignores it or defends it.

Some Republicans do as well, but not nearly as many.
The funny thing here is that it's CNN identifying the lie. Shows how much they really want DeSantis to come back and beat Trump.


Come on, man. Do you really take whatever Desantis supporters or his campaign states and just try to spin it around to claim its actually the opposite (e.g. "Actually, the media really wants Desantis to beat Trump!")? Its lazy, unoriginal, and as transparent as can be.

The Dems clearly hate Trump (duh, water is wet) and obviously there's ton of evidence to that. There's no need to stretch reality beyond believability by spinning a ridiculous claim like the media is rooting for Desantis. If you were to claim the media is rooting for Ramaswamy or Scott or Christie, ok, that's believable. But dude, stuff like this is where you lose any credibility.
No. My point to the OP was that I agree with her that the media would never report this. You wouldn't see it anywhere. Many times in the past a panelist or individual interviewer would say something the media would not like, and it would just get buried.


Based on what's been posted here, only one conservative contributor on this particular CNN piece tried defending Ron, while the rest balked at blaming Harris. So this incident is scant evidence that the media wants Desantis to take down Trump. The MSM hates both of them.

But what I do think is slowly happening is the media is allowing the Biden/Harris administration to look bad by simply not hiding their mistakes anymore. That'll be the MSM's subtle way of acclimating the public to the DNC's eventual switch to Newsome as the candidate.
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She is free to lie with impunity. It's not like the people who vote for her are going to hold her accountable.
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Just a slip of the tongue...
If you think I am a liberal, you are incorrect. Assume sarcasm on my part. Sorry if something I post has already been posted. Just the way it is!!
oh no
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The authors of the curriculum Kamala is so outraged about

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oh no said:

it's not CNN though, it's a republican who is a contributor on CNN. the other panelists and the CNN viewership just laugh off they guy calling Kamala a liar and dismiss HIM as the liar.

Gaslighting at its finest...
Logos Stick
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So when blacks were slaves they acquired skills?

Like farming, ranching, blacksmithing, carpentry, etc..

Hell, that sounds better than what they get in public school system today.
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Disney and ABC's The View was flooded with racism again on Monday, as the liberal ladies reacted to Florida adopting new standards for their black history courses and pushed misinformation peddled by Vice President Kamala Harris (D). During their unhinged and profanity-laced hot takes, racist co-host Sunny Hostin attacked ALL white people by insisting they "continue to reap the benefits" of slavery. Meanwhile, moderator Whoopi Goldberg suggested Governor Ron DeSantis (R-FL) was trying to bring back slavery.

Largely ignoring (in one case scoffing) the fact the curriculum was written by multiple black scholars, Goldberg claimed they put it together without talking to any black people. "I feel like they didn't talk to any African Americans because we could have told them about the history, and nor have any -- anyone seemingly gone to the Smithsonian to find out anything," she decried.

She went on to suggest they think slavery was a "lie."
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2023/07/24/view-all-white-people-continue-reap-benefits-slavery
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Whoopie don't know a damn thing about slavery.

And neither do 99.999999999% of blacks living today.

Whoopie has lived a better, more comfortable life than 99.9999% of white people.
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Logos Stick said:

Whoopie don't know a damn thing about slavery.

And neither do 99.999999999% of blacks living today.

Whoopie has lived a better, more comfortable life than 99.9999% of white people.
Na she knows a fair amount - just look at the people doing all her housework and constantly being yelled at and threatened.
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Owlagdad said:

Her lips are moving.


With Kamala, that means 1 of 2 things.
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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Philip J Fry said:

Remember when Trump was in office and there were leaks just about every month meant to hurt him? Recorded conversations and telephone calls with high ranking foreign leaders. Now we get nothing. Clear that there's a Washington machine that cares more about their team than the country


This!
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This is the best of the best, created by African American scholars... Kamala Harris is either dumb and didn't read anything about it, or she knows the truth and has decided to lie to the American people about it.
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