U.S. Army Veteran Settles California Police Brutality Litigation

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InfantryAg
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Perhaps the OP should have posted that, rather than an inconclusive video.

I'm not defending anything. I said the video does not provide all the facts. You have an emotional tie to this, and still don't know the pertinent case law.
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Has anyone thought about the $14 million not being enough?

Once the attorney has taken his 30%, he'll have 14 million, or so,left. Healthcare prices are not leveling off or coming down, period. If he lives more than 10 years, I bet he doesn't have enough funds to pay for the care that will be necessary---I think!

I say I think because the care may be involved outside of the $14 million. Attorneys here can clarify my statement.


Attorneys can get 35% plus expenses so it will be more like $10 million left (quite sure this figure will go down on appeals). I'm still confused why a para is confined to the bed.
He's a quadriplegic. He does use a wheelchair but is mostly in bed due to pain.

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Of course, the penalty for not cooperating is not getting slammed to the ground so hard you break your neck and are paralyzed. If you were his lawyer and that was the case, wouldn't your video show that takedown over and over and over?

How do you think his neck and nose were broken if it wasn't by the cops?


If he was quad, he wouldn't be able to use his arms. He is a paraplegic which means he can get around in a wheelchair which means he is not bedridden. That was a lie by the attorney in order to get more money. Trying to claim he needs round the clock nursing to Jack up the payout. Simply not being able to use your legs would suffice Imo.

As I said before, the fact that he has a bloody nose indicates to me that he hit the ground face first which makes me doubt that as the cause of the broken neck. If he had gone down crown of the head first, it would have made a lot more sense. One of the reasons police are trained in this takedown is bc it is highly unlikely to cause a neck or back injury. I've repeatedly said that it seems more likely that he broke his neck in the car accident, which was either exacerbated by the takedown or caused by the takedown. If it WAS caused by the takedown then WHY didn't the lawyers video show that? Jury saw everything and we did not, so you would have to assume there was more proof that it was caused by the takedown.
Unreal.

I'll wait for you to post a link to support your claims. I've posted two. You should start by researching quadriplegia.


Maybe you should look up the definition of quadriplegic first
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If he was quad, he wouldn't be able to use his arms.
This is false. Here ya go, officer.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23974-quadriplegia-tetraplegia




Quad = 4 and refers to all the limbs. He clearly has use of two of them at least to some extent. Pointless to argue semantics
Some quadriplegics have use of their arms. His hands are affected. You can see the muscle wasting and awkward movements in them. It's not semantics. It's medicine. It's perplexing that you're even arguing this. Just admit you were wrong.

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There are also two main ways, complete and incomplete, that quadriplegia can happen.
  • Incomplete quadriplegia. This means that the quadriplegia blocks some but not all signals from getting through. That means a person might still have some ability to move, feel sensations or control automatic body processes (such as bowel and bladder function). This happens with about one-third of traumatic spinal cord injuries.
  • Complete quadriplegia. This means whatever causes the quadriplegia blocks all signals from getting through. That means a person loses muscle control, the ability to feel sensations and their brain can't manage any automatic processes that rely on brain signaling to work. This happens with about 20% of spinal cord injuries.



Educate yourself on quadriplegia lest you encounter one in your job and injure them out of ignorance.



Lmao!! I spent years volunteering at a rehab hospital and not a single person ever used THAT definition for quadriplegics. Now I'm in hospitals every day of the week and have still not ran into a nurse or doctor who uses the term in that way. I'll make sure I use the proper terminology in the future though lest I hurt someone's FEELINGS.
Unreal. This guy knows more than the freakin' Cleveland Clinic. And actual quadriplegics! You're embarrassing yourself at this point. But message Cole (YT guy above) and let him know he's not a quad. I'm sure he'll be excited to hear it!

How do so many people with egos so huge that they can't admit when they're wrong become cops? It's basically an epidemic at this point. Terrible.


Must be the same way people in your profession struggle to comprehend the phrase "pointless to argue semantics."
You said he couldn't be a quadriplegic because he can move his arms. That's categorically false. It has nothing to do with semantics. It's a medical classification based on where the spinal cord injury is.

I'm shocked you still come back to this board with the amount of times you've been proven completely wrong. Embarrassing.
Bocephus
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Mary Bailey said:

Bocephus said:

Mary Bailey said:

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Mary Bailey said:

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Mary Bailey said:

Bocephus said:

Mary Bailey said:

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Mary Bailey said:

Bocephus said:

fasthorse05 said:

Has anyone thought about the $14 million not being enough?

Once the attorney has taken his 30%, he'll have 14 million, or so,left. Healthcare prices are not leveling off or coming down, period. If he lives more than 10 years, I bet he doesn't have enough funds to pay for the care that will be necessary---I think!

I say I think because the care may be involved outside of the $14 million. Attorneys here can clarify my statement.


Attorneys can get 35% plus expenses so it will be more like $10 million left (quite sure this figure will go down on appeals). I'm still confused why a para is confined to the bed.
He's a quadriplegic. He does use a wheelchair but is mostly in bed due to pain.

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Of course, the penalty for not cooperating is not getting slammed to the ground so hard you break your neck and are paralyzed. If you were his lawyer and that was the case, wouldn't your video show that takedown over and over and over?

How do you think his neck and nose were broken if it wasn't by the cops?


If he was quad, he wouldn't be able to use his arms. He is a paraplegic which means he can get around in a wheelchair which means he is not bedridden. That was a lie by the attorney in order to get more money. Trying to claim he needs round the clock nursing to Jack up the payout. Simply not being able to use your legs would suffice Imo.

As I said before, the fact that he has a bloody nose indicates to me that he hit the ground face first which makes me doubt that as the cause of the broken neck. If he had gone down crown of the head first, it would have made a lot more sense. One of the reasons police are trained in this takedown is bc it is highly unlikely to cause a neck or back injury. I've repeatedly said that it seems more likely that he broke his neck in the car accident, which was either exacerbated by the takedown or caused by the takedown. If it WAS caused by the takedown then WHY didn't the lawyers video show that? Jury saw everything and we did not, so you would have to assume there was more proof that it was caused by the takedown.
Unreal.

I'll wait for you to post a link to support your claims. I've posted two. You should start by researching quadriplegia.


Maybe you should look up the definition of quadriplegic first
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If he was quad, he wouldn't be able to use his arms.
This is false. Here ya go, officer.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23974-quadriplegia-tetraplegia




Quad = 4 and refers to all the limbs. He clearly has use of two of them at least to some extent. Pointless to argue semantics
Some quadriplegics have use of their arms. His hands are affected. You can see the muscle wasting and awkward movements in them. It's not semantics. It's medicine. It's perplexing that you're even arguing this. Just admit you were wrong.

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There are also two main ways, complete and incomplete, that quadriplegia can happen.
  • Incomplete quadriplegia. This means that the quadriplegia blocks some but not all signals from getting through. That means a person might still have some ability to move, feel sensations or control automatic body processes (such as bowel and bladder function). This happens with about one-third of traumatic spinal cord injuries.
  • Complete quadriplegia. This means whatever causes the quadriplegia blocks all signals from getting through. That means a person loses muscle control, the ability to feel sensations and their brain can't manage any automatic processes that rely on brain signaling to work. This happens with about 20% of spinal cord injuries.



Educate yourself on quadriplegia lest you encounter one in your job and injure them out of ignorance.



Lmao!! I spent years volunteering at a rehab hospital and not a single person ever used THAT definition for quadriplegics. Now I'm in hospitals every day of the week and have still not ran into a nurse or doctor who uses the term in that way. I'll make sure I use the proper terminology in the future though lest I hurt someone's FEELINGS.
Unreal. This guy knows more than the freakin' Cleveland Clinic. And actual quadriplegics! You're embarrassing yourself at this point. But message Cole (YT guy above) and let him know he's not a quad. I'm sure he'll be excited to hear it!

How do so many people with egos so huge that they can't admit when they're wrong become cops? It's basically an epidemic at this point. Terrible.


Must be the same way people in your profession struggle to comprehend the phrase "pointless to argue semantics."
You said he couldn't be a quadriplegic because he can move his arms. That's categorically false. It has nothing to do with semantics. It's a medical classification based on where the spinal cord injury is.

I'm shocked you still come back to this board with the amount of times you've been proven completely wrong. Embarrassing.


I'm shocked you cannot define pointless
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Bocephus said:

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Mary Bailey said:

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Mary Bailey said:

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fasthorse05 said:

Has anyone thought about the $14 million not being enough?

Once the attorney has taken his 30%, he'll have 14 million, or so,left. %A0Healthcare prices are not leveling off or coming down, period. %A0If he lives more than 10 years, I bet he doesn't have enough funds to pay for the care that will be necessary---I think!

I say I think because the care may be involved outside of the $14 million. %A0Attorneys here can clarify my statement.


Attorneys can get 35% plus expenses so it will be more like $10 million left (quite sure this figure will go down on appeals). I'm still confused why a para is confined to the bed.
He's a quadriplegic. %A0He does use a wheelchair but is mostly in bed due to pain.

Quote:

Of course, the penalty for not cooperating is not getting slammed to the ground so hard you break your neck and are paralyzed. If you were his lawyer and that was the case, wouldn't your video show that takedown over and over and over?

How do you think his neck and nose were broken if it wasn't by the cops?


If he was quad, he wouldn't be able to use his arms. He is a paraplegic which means he can get around in a wheelchair which means he is not bedridden. That was a lie by the attorney in order to get more money. Trying to claim he needs round the clock nursing to Jack up the payout. Simply not being able to use your legs would suffice Imo.

As I said before, the fact that he has a bloody nose indicates to me that he hit the ground face first which makes me doubt that as the cause of the broken neck. If he had gone down crown of the head first, it would have made a lot more sense. One of the reasons police are trained in this takedown is bc it is highly unlikely to cause a neck or back injury. I've repeatedly said that it seems more likely that he broke his neck in the car accident, which was either exacerbated by the takedown or caused by the takedown. If it WAS caused by the takedown then WHY didn't the lawyers video show that? Jury saw everything and we did not, so you would have to assume there was more proof that it was caused by the takedown.
Unreal.

I'll wait for you to post a link to support your claims. %A0I've posted two. %A0You should start by researching quadriplegia.


Maybe you should look up the definition of quadriplegic first
Quote:

If he was quad, he wouldn't be able to use his arms.
This is false. %A0Here ya go, officer.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23974-quadriplegia-tetraplegia




Quad = 4 and refers to all the limbs. He clearly has use of two of them at least to some extent. Pointless to argue semantics
Some quadriplegics have use of their arms. %A0His hands are affected. %A0You can see the muscle wasting and awkward movements in them. %A0It's not semantics. %A0It's medicine. It's perplexing that you're even arguing this. %A0Just admit you were wrong.

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There are also two main ways, complete and incomplete, that quadriplegia can happen.
  • Incomplete quadriplegia. This means that the quadriplegia blocks some %A0but not all %A0signals from getting through. That means a person might still have some ability to move, feel sensations or control automatic body processes (such as bowel and bladder function). This happens with about one-third of traumatic spinal cord injuries.
  • Complete quadriplegia. This means whatever causes the quadriplegia blocks all signals from getting through. That means a person loses muscle control, the ability to feel sensations and their brain can't manage any automatic processes that rely on brain signaling to work. This happens with about 20% of spinal cord injuries.



Educate yourself on quadriplegia lest you encounter one in your job and injure them out of ignorance.



Lmao!! I spent years volunteering at a rehab hospital and not a single person ever used THAT definition for quadriplegics. Now I'm in hospitals every day of the week and have still not ran into a nurse or doctor who uses the term in that way. I'll make sure I use the proper terminology in the future though lest I hurt someone's FEELINGS.
Unreal. %A0This guy knows more than the freakin' Cleveland Clinic. %A0And actual quadriplegics! %A0 You're embarrassing yourself at this point. %A0But message Cole (YT guy above) and let him know he's not a quad. %A0I'm sure he'll be excited to hear it!

How do so many people with egos so huge that they can't admit when they're wrong become cops? %A0It's basically an epidemic at this point. %A0Terrible.


Must be the same way people in your profession struggle to comprehend the phrase "pointless to argue semantics."
You said he couldn't be a quadriplegic because he can move his arms. %A0That's categorically false. %A0It has nothing to do with semantics. %A0It's a medical classification based on where the spinal cord injury is.

I'm shocked you still come back to this board with the amount of times you've been proven completely wrong. %A0Embarrassing.


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Just admit you were wrong. It's not hard.
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Home videos of you and Bo? Cute!
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Some strong boot licker energy in here.

Let's pretend you have to take a basic aptitude/personality test to become a cop. One question is "You and another officer have a geriatric in handcuffs. Is it ok to paralyze the arrestee as a direct result of your choice of applied force?" It is impressive cognitive dissonance to answer "of course not!" in theory, but defend it in reality.

It's not even the crappy cops like this, but the brain dead "I support the thin blue line" who defend such indefensible behavior, that ruins what is an otherwise noble profession and perpetuates this kind of crap.
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DwightSchrute said:

Some strong boot licker energy in here.

Let's pretend you have to take a basic aptitude/personality test to become a cop. One question is "You and another officer have a geriatric in handcuffs. Is it ok to paralyze the arrestee as a direct result of your choice of applied force?" It is impressive cognitive dissonance to answer "of course not!" in theory, but defend it in reality.

It's not even the crappy cops like this, but the brain dead "I support the thin blue line" who defend such indefensible behavior, that ruins what is an otherwise noble profession and perpetuates this kind of crap.



People who use the phrase "boot licker" = too ***** to do the job and affect the kind of change they're always whining about.
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