Houston Independent School District to cut more than 2300 staff positions amid plummeting student enrollment

https://www.foxnews.com/media/houston-independent-school-district-to-cut-more-than-2300-staff-positions-amid-plummeting-student-enrollment

This is the way! Take your kids out of the liberal indoctrination camps!!

HiSD is just like the city of Houston. Being run by liberal democrats and it will struggle. If it were not for the energy industry and IT they would really hurt. I know it well. This is what happens when good intended people ignore what is happening and do not vote or get involved.

$80k for starting teachers, though.

techno-ag said:

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$80k for starting teachers, though.

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80k is a lot for a starting teacher… but to work in HISD it's probably still not worth it. They will have problems hiring good teachers there and probably have had problems for years

techno-ag said:

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$80k for starting teachers, though.

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Yeah, I doubt anyone but the true believers will take up some of those gigs. Doubt many want to get spit on, cussed out or stabbed by the "student" body

You couldn't pay me enough to teach in those "schools".

zooguy96 said:

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You couldn't pay me enough to teach in those "schools".

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agree. The District needs to be split into 4 seperate districts and some schools need to be closed because of low enrollment. HISD has been very top heavy for a long time. surrounding districts are getting the same way.
Administration buildings are overflowing at Katy, Cy- Fair, Ft. Bend, etc.

Democrat ran large sanctuary cities what could possibly go wrong. They are the demise of our country. No amount of money can fix the problem sadly. All are in a race to the bottom.

Who is next up to bat for Houston?

Sheila Jackson Lee

techno-ag said:

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$80k for starting teachers, though.

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Good lord. I started at teacher salary (in technology) at $27k in 2007 for an ESC. I know it's a bigger district and inflation but that's insane.

mustang1234 said:

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zooguy96 said:

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You couldn't pay me enough to teach in those "schools".

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agree. The District needs to be split into 4 seperate districts and some schools need to be closed because of low enrollment. HISD has been very top heavy for a long time. surrounding districts are getting the same way.
Administration buildings are overflowing at Katy, Cy- Fair, Ft. Bend, etc.

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Correct. I think the numbers across the nation are something like student populations up 7%, teaching positions up 5-6%, and admin positions up 87% over the last decade. It's nuts. Money grab.

Only 6 years ago, HISD was at $50k for new teachers + a $5k stipend for high needs fields like Math.

Looks like HISD is at $60k for new teachers now. On a 187 day plan.
https://www.houstonisd.org/salarytables

Edit: found the HS teacher salaries under NES
$70k for Fine Arts
$85k for Algebra
$90k for English
$76k for African American studies

And what is "Art of thinking"?
Sounds like sitting around the campfire with Dave Van Driessen smoking ganja

Yeah these mega districts are terrible for communities. We left Conroe for private school not because of the curriculum, but lack of discipline and control - I'm all for parents having a voice and ensuring our districts aren't littered with woke propaganda, but some of these schools cater so pathetically to every parent at the detriment of other kids. The number of accommodations allowed is incredibly stupid. You can't effectively manage 70 campuses and 80k students effectively. It's absolutely absurd. And what's sad is Conroe ISD is small compared to other districts.

HISD is a **** hole .. bunch of ******ed people run Houston.. the red ants you see in your yard have more Brains than most HSID employees ..

If you added all the iQs up for All the upper admin at HISD and put them together.. you would be lucky to get to 2

JDUB08AG said:

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Yeah these mega districts are terrible for communities. We left Conroe for private school not because of the curriculum, but lack of discipline and control - I'm all for parents having a voice and ensuring our districts aren't littered with woke propaganda, but some of these schools cater so pathetically to every parent at the detriment of other kids. The number of accommodations allowed is incredibly stupid. You can't effectively manage 70 campuses and 80k students effectively. It's absolutely absurd. And what's sad is Conroe ISD is small compared to other districts.

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I work for a technology reseller now and K12 is exclusively my customer.

One of the products I sell is a classroom management based out of UK. One of my peers here in the US went over to help deploy a new product and said that each campus is locally run (I.e. Conroe HS is it's own entity and has no control over Conroe MS or Conroe Elementary.)

He said it even for some of the bigger schools around London it was so much easier to deal with due to local control and less bureaucracy.

From somebody who deals the business side of a lot of schools your kids are in, there's a lot of people out there that care about your kids and want to do the right thing by your tax dollars and there are a lot that view you as a cash cow to line their friends' pockets and move up in the world. There are some that genuinely view you as the enemy and some that want to partner with you.

Democrat leadership will continue to have much of Houston circle the drain and it will wind up being another Chicago or Detroit. Decent people have been leaving and will continue to leave. What is left behind you won't want to be around. That exodus is why you have democrats in office.

What are y'all talking about?

I graduated from high school in inner city Houston with a good solid 5th grade education!

HollywoodBQ said:

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Only 6 years ago, HISD was at $50k for new teachers + a $5k stipend for high needs fields like Math.

Looks like HISD is at $60k for new teachers now. On a 187 day plan.
https://www.houstonisd.org/salarytables

Edit: found the HS teacher salaries under NES
$70k for Fine Arts
$85k for Algebra
$90k for English
$76k for African American studies

And what is "Art of thinking"?
Sounds like sitting around the campfire with Dave Van Driessen smoking ganja

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The fact they even teach "African American" studies tells you a lot about HISD.

one safe place said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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Only 6 years ago, HISD was at $50k for new teachers + a $5k stipend for high needs fields like Math.

Looks like HISD is at $60k for new teachers now. On a 187 day plan.
https://www.houstonisd.org/salarytables

Edit: found the HS teacher salaries under NES
$70k for Fine Arts
$85k for Algebra
$90k for English
$76k for African American studies

And what is "Art of thinking"?
Sounds like sitting around the campfire with Dave Van Driessen smoking ganja

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The fact they even teach "African American" studies tells you a lot about HISD.

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That's about 76k too high for that subject

80k for teaching English?


Maybe I will move back to Houston when Benny graduates from HS.

When I was in HISD in the late 90's none of the high achieving kids went to their zoned middle or high schools unless they just happened to live in the right neighborhood. I was zoned to Sharpstown so after private elementary I magnet transffered to the math, science, and computer program at Fondren middle School, then magnet transferred to Bellaire HS.

I could have slept through everything and walked into a valedictorian slot at Sharpstown HS... IF I didn't get stabbed in the hallway.

I'm sure it's the same today, and probably gotten even more skewed.

SunrayAg said:

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What are y'all talking about?

I graduated from high school in inner city Houston with a good solid 5th grade education!

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" Got a good Christian raisin' and an eighth grade education
Ain't no need in y'all a treatin' me this way"

goatchze said:

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SunrayAg said:

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What are y'all talking about?

I graduated from high school in inner city Houston with a good solid 5th grade education!

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" Got a good Christian raisin' and an eighth grade education
Ain't no need in y'all a treatin' me this way"

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Hillary, is that you?

DavysApprentice said:

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techno-ag said:

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$80k for starting teachers, though.

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80k is a lot for a starting teacher… but to work in HISD it's probably still not worth it. They will have problems hiring good teachers there and probably have had problems for years

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I taught there for eight years. Not even $150,000 would make me go back there.

outofstateaggie said:

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mustang1234 said:

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zooguy96 said:

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You couldn't pay me enough to teach in those "schools".

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agree. The District needs to be split into 4 seperate districts and some schools need to be closed because of low enrollment. HISD has been very top heavy for a long time. surrounding districts are getting the same way.
Administration buildings are overflowing at Katy, Cy- Fair, Ft. Bend, etc.

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Correct. I think the numbers across the nation are something like student populations up 7%, teaching positions up 5-6%, and admin positions up 87% over the last decade. It's nuts. Money grab.

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Yep, just a bloated system with a lot of no show and no work jobs for constituents.

HollywoodBQ said:

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Edit: found the HS teacher salaries under NES


And what is "Art of thinking"?
Sounds like sitting around the campfire with Dave Van Driessen smoking ganja

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$70k for Fine Arts - (Love it)
$85k for Algebra - (Very competitive, makes sense - even in WOKE Austin ISD, our Woke high school math teachers have been awesome )
$90k for English (Way too high for someone who's sole job is to indoctrinate kids into the Democrat party)
$76k for African American studies (Way too high for someone who's sole job is to indoctrinate kids into the Democrat party)

Tanya 93 said:

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80k for teaching English?


Maybe I will move back to Houston when Benny graduates from HS.

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$90K

You can get you a ****load more shoes every year.

Ag with kids said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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80k for teaching English?


Maybe I will move back to Houston when Benny graduates from HS.

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$90K



You can get you a ****load more shoes every year.

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Burberry and Prada!


Maybe a couple more Kate Spade purses!!!!

Tanya 93 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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80k for teaching English?


Maybe I will move back to Houston when Benny graduates from HS.

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$90K



You can get you a ****load more shoes every year.

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Burberry and Prada!


Maybe a couple more Kate Spade purses!!!!

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The 00's called, they want their fashion back.

AnScAggie said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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80k for teaching English?


Maybe I will move back to Houston when Benny graduates from HS.

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$90K



You can get you a ****load more shoes every year.

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Burberry and Prada!


Maybe a couple more Kate Spade purses!!!!

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The 00's called, they want their fashion back.

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I am 52.

I wear and carry what I want.

And Prada heels is what I love.


Along with avocado toast.

DrEvazanPhD said:

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techno-ag said:

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$80k for starting teachers, though.

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Yeah, I doubt anyone but the true believers will take up some of those gigs. Doubt many want to get spit on, cussed out or stabbed by the "student" body

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You mean it's not like your 90's "teacher with good intentions goes into bad school and awakens the inner student of all the gangbangers" movies?

HollywoodBQ said:

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Edit: found the HS teacher salaries under NES
$70k for Fine Arts
$85k for Algebra
$90k for English
$76k for African American studies

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WAIT A MINUTE! $90k for teaching whitey talk and only $76k for teaching African American studies?! That s#it ain't right! Sompin gonna hafta change! /Sheila Confederate Generals Names

DrEvazanPhD said:

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techno-ag said:

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$80k for starting teachers, though.

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Yeah, I doubt anyone but the true believers will take up some of those gigs. Doubt many want to get spit on, cussed out or stabbed by the "student" body

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Lol and that's their 1st graders.

outofstateaggie said:

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mustang1234 said:

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zooguy96 said:

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You couldn't pay me enough to teach in those "schools".

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agree. The District needs to be split into 4 seperate districts and some schools need to be closed because of low enrollment. HISD has been very top heavy for a long time. surrounding districts are getting the same way.
Administration buildings are overflowing at Katy, Cy- Fair, Ft. Bend, etc.

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Correct. I think the numbers across the nation are something like student populations up 7%, teaching positions up 5-6%, and admin positions up 87% over the last decade. It's nuts. Money grab.

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The local district where my wife teaches, we just passed either 2 or 3 out of 5 bond proposals. I voted against all 5, but sadly, 2 or 3 passed -- I can't remember. Anyway, one of which, and it was probably needed, was to tear down an older building that housed some admin and the bus barn. The busses, I'm told, are staying, but the admin (who probably shouldn't have been there in the first place) are being moved to various school campi. One is the one my wife is based at. The principal is running around moving classes OUT of these classrooms to make way for admin!

I go to church with a board member and will be telling her tomorrow. The mission of the ISD is something 'for the kids,' supposed. For the kids my ass.