Another corrupt idea from the Party of 10% for the Big GuyQuote:
The audit described a chaotic process, with more than a dozen canceled meetings, potential conflicts of interest in the selection of funding recipients, and lines of applicant evaluations left blank. Full distribution of the first biennial payout of cannabis tax revenue$302 million for harm reduction, housing, and other servicesdid not occur until late 2022, almost two years after Measure 110 passed. Figures released by the state last month show that, in the second half of 2022, recipients of Measure 110 funding provided some form of service to roughly 50,000 "clients," though the Oregon Health Authority has said that a single individual could be counted multiple times in that total.
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Advocates have celebrated a plunge in arrests. But critics say that sidelining law enforcement has made it harder to persuade some drug users to stop using. "Without accountability or the ability to drive a better choice, these individuals are left to their own demise."
C@LAg said:
ban drugs in oregon.
everywhere.
They need to open up "All You Can Use, No Resuscitation 'Clinics'" all over the state and let all problems quickly resolve themselves.Brittmoore Car Club said:
But some atheist anarcho-libertarians read "Freakonimics" and swore that easy access to highly addicting hardcore drugs would not increase overall usage and abuse.
Brittmoore Car Club said:
But some atheist anarcho-libertarians read "Freakonimics" and swore that easy access to highly addicting hardcore drugs would not increase overall usage and abuse.
DDub74 said:
A failure. Shocker I know.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-happened-when-oregon-decriminalized-hard-drugs/ar-AA1e4HA0
Overdoses up, crime up, accidental kid deaths up, treatment centers not up,
So open the hen house and then get upset when the fox walks in?Get Off My Lawn said:
If you want legalized drugs, you also need to ramp up enforcement of other laws. Eventually druggies run out of money for their habit and turn to theft. It'sa natural progression and either you end up with full jails or dangerous streets. I'll never understand the leftist mindset that government service isn't service toward those who foot the bill.
This.aTmAg said:
This is not a defense of Oregon. They are stupid in every way. But...
Refusing to convict drug users is not the same as legalization. That's the worst of both worlds. Since production and distribution is still illegal, then you still have the criminal element for that. And since the drugs are still technically illegal, you still have the "rebelliousness" aspect in effect. This policy is practically begging for the problem to get worse.
But it's not only the dregs of society.YouBet said:
Now thinking that this is just another depopulation strategy by the lefts puppet masters.
It's like the business philosophy of cutting the bottom 10% of your workforce every year. Keep the drugs flowing and let the dregs of society kill themselves and we will use the tax payers to do it.
Theft and crap is worse with them being illegal as it pushes the price up.Get Off My Lawn said:
If you want legalized drugs, you also need to ramp up enforcement of other laws. Eventually druggies run out of money for their habit and turn to theft. It'sa natural progression and either you end up with full jails or dangerous streets. I'll never understand the leftist mindset that government service isn't service toward those who foot the bill.
Science Denier said:
Remember, Camala said the government is trying to "control" the population.
This is outcome desired, not a problem as a result.
Ban Oregon. Everywhere.C@LAg said:
ban drugs in oregon.
everywhere.
Logos Stick said:Science Denier said:
Remember, Camala said the government is trying to "control" the population.
This is outcome desired, not a problem as a result.
Suppose the motivation for this is population control and reduction.
Do we care?
These people are making choices. If a person wants to kill himself with drugs, while I think it's abhorrent, it's his choice imo.
It's also their state.
I have no issues with the death and destruction going on there. Liberals are simply proving themselves to be braindead idiots once again. It happens every damn day. So much so that we can't separate reality from satire now.
True.agracer said:But it's not only the dregs of society.YouBet said:
Now thinking that this is just another depopulation strategy by the lefts puppet masters.
It's like the business philosophy of cutting the bottom 10% of your workforce every year. Keep the drugs flowing and let the dregs of society kill themselves and we will use the tax payers to do it.
Big Pharma has pushed opioids for years and people get addicted. Then they turn to hard drugs when they can no longer legally obtain the drugs their doctors over prescribed.
I've been saying this for years. Free transportation to a free drug use facility at an old military site...offer treatment to anyone who wants it. Give them food and shelter. They can take all the drugs they want, but they have to stay on site. All drugs are manufactured by the govt to keep the cartels from making money.BTKAG97 said:They need to open up "All You Can Use, No Resuscitation 'Clinics'" all over the state and let all problems quickly resolve themselves.Brittmoore Car Club said:
But some atheist anarcho-libertarians read "Freakonimics" and swore that easy access to highly addicting hardcore drugs would not increase overall usage and abuse.
It's my understanding that this has not be the case in Colorado with pot. Once the government got involved with regulations and taxation, the price of legal pot became higher than illegal, and the black market is flourishing.aTmAg said:
True legalization would bring the price down and would likely increase usage by a bit. But more people would be able to afford it while holding actual jobs rather than resort to crime.
Even better give 80% (The sane portion) of Oregon to Idaho.Adverse Event said:C@LAg said:
ban drugs in oregon.
everywhere.
Ban Oregon.
Fortunately our justice system doesn't work on "shoot first" principle.agracer said:So open the hen house and then get upset when the fox walks in?Get Off My Lawn said:
If you want legalized drugs, you also need to ramp up enforcement of other laws. Eventually druggies run out of money for their habit and turn to theft. It'sa natural progression and either you end up with full jails or dangerous streets. I'll never understand the leftist mindset that government service isn't service toward those who foot the bill.
How about don't open the hen house door to begin with and shoot the fox before he even gets on your property?
Life is good here outside of Multnomah County.Adverse Event said:Ban Oregon.C@LAg said:
ban drugs in oregon.
everywhere.
Some of my favorite things from that article...DDub74 said:
A failure. Shocker I know.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-happened-when-oregon-decriminalized-hard-drugs/ar-AA1e4HA0
Overdoses up, crime up, accidental kid deaths up, treatment centers not up,
Typical "we just need more time" appeal when the results are obviously not going how they'd hoped.Quote:
Many advocates say the new policy simply needs more time to prove itself, even if they also acknowledge that parts of the ballot measure had flaws; advocates worked closely with lawmakers on the oversight bill that passed last month. "We're building the plane as we fly it," Haven Wheelock, a program supervisor at a homeless-services provider in Portland who helped put Measure 110 on the ballot, told me. "We tried the War on Drugs for 50 years, and it didn't work … It hurts my heart every time someone says we need to repeal this before we even give it a chance."
So, we're doing what they're doing except we aren't.Quote:
Backers of Measure 110 said the law was modeled on drug policies in Portugal, where personal drug possession was decriminalized two decades ago. But Oregon's enforcement-and-treatment-referral system differs from Portugal's. Users caught with drugs in Portugal are referred to a civil commission that evaluates their drug use and recommends treatment if needed, with civil sanctions for noncompliance. Portugal's state-run health system also funds a nationwide network of treatment services, many of which focus on sobriety. Sutton said drafters of Measure 110 wanted to avoid anything that might resemble a criminal tribunal or coercing drug users into treatment. "People respond best when they're ready to access those services in a voluntary way," he said.
BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!Quote:
Portland's Democratic mayor, Ted Wheeler, went so far as to attempt an end run around Measure 110 in his city. Last month, Wheeler unveiled a proposal to criminalize public drug consumption in Portland, similar to existing bans on open-air drinking, saying in a statement that Measure 110 "is not working as it was intended to." He added, "Portland's substance-abuse problems have exploded to deadly and disastrous proportions." Wheeler withdrew the proposal days later after learning that an older state law prohibits local jurisdictions from banning public drug use.
