"Trump probe knocks DeSantis off course and to the back of the news"

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PanzerAggie06 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

Trump doing his utmost to make sure the Dems hold the WH till at least Jan 29. And his pathetic minions will make it happen. Low IQ clowns.


It takes real intelligence to call people dumb. You should write a book.


Done.

Will you be able to read it? I can add lots of pictures for you in order to simplify things. Maybe a pop up?


You guys are so blinded by your TDS I feel sorry for you. You can't even see that YOU are doing exactly what you blame everyone and everything on. You think the media is acting on behalf of the Democrats and propping Trump up, which is exactly what y'all do to EVERY thread. Even the ones specifically intended to talk about DeSantis. The left appreciates your allegiance to the common cause of destroying Trump.


Oh child….. so naive. It's sorta cute.

The left doesn't appreciate those conservatives pushing back on Trump by supporting De Santis. The left would be giddy at the prospect off those on the right getting behind loser Don and giving him the nomination. They know that means four more years of Biden. Sadly, the low IQ Trumpian doesn't grasp this simple concept. One I explained to my 8yo nephew who grasped what I was saying immediately.
You obviously can't be adult. Block me and do us both a favor.
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Waffledynamics said:

It Aint Easy Being Brown said:

It's Trumps fault that he's facing nonsense banana republic indictments & cnn salivates nonstop over his every fart
Trump knew what he was doing with his timing of announcing the charges. He knows what he did..



What's wrong with good timing and trying to make the best of a bad situation? Ridiculous post.
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FireAg said:

TexasAggiesWin said:

It's apparent that Trump and his followers want Biden 2024

So dumb writing **** like this…

It's like you're already conceding to Trump and looking for your "woe is me" crutch to lean on…

DeSantis needs to do better…stop projecting his failures to gain traction onto others…start demanding that DeSantis does better…

I promise it's not "woe is me". It's more like, what the **** is wrong with Trump supporters.
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I prefer DeSantis and will vote for him, but this is a weak thing to cry about. DeSantis and the Don are both trying to win the primary. Of course the Don is going to try to sway attention to himself over his opponent. That's politics.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

I prefer DeSantis and will vote for him, but this is a weak thing to cry about. DeSantis and the Don are both trying to win the primary. Of course the Don is going to try to sway attention to himself over his opponent. That's politics.

100% correct…

It's DeSantis's job to figure out how to change the narrative and grab the spotlight…
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Funky Winkerbean said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

Trump doing his utmost to make sure the Dems hold the WH till at least Jan 29. And his pathetic minions will make it happen. Low IQ clowns.


It takes real intelligence to call people dumb. You should write a book.
With the demorats rotting the country form the inside out, it takes a lack of intelligence to back a twit like Trump when there are far better options to beat the stinking filth that is the demorats

Trump is going to give the rats another 4 years to finish off what is left of this republic. And those that back Trump in the primaries will also be responsible.
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TexasAggiesWin said:

FireAg said:

TexasAggiesWin said:

It's apparent that Trump and his followers want Biden 2024

So dumb writing **** like this…

It's like you're already conceding to Trump and looking for your "woe is me" crutch to lean on…

DeSantis needs to do better…stop projecting his failures to gain traction onto others…start demanding that DeSantis does better…

I promise it's not "woe is me". It's more like, what the **** is wrong with Trump supporters.

More like "WTF is DeSantis doing since he is failing at changing the narrative and stealing the spotlight?"…
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ttu_85 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

Trump doing his utmost to make sure the Dems hold the WH till at least Jan 29. And his pathetic minions will make it happen. Low IQ clowns.


It takes real intelligence to call people dumb. You should write a book.
With the demorats rotting the country form the inside out, it takes a lack of intelligence to back a twit like Trump when there are far better options to beat the stinking filth that is the demorats

Trump is going to give the rats another 4 years to finish off what is left of this republic. And those that back Trump in the primaries will also be responsible.

Wrong…DeSantis is going to give the leftists 4 more years because he is failing at taking the spotlight off of Trump and putting it on himself…

You don't blame followers for failures…you always blame leaders, and if you want DeSantis to lead the R's for the next 4 years, then he'd better damn well step up and do something about Trump stealing the spotlight and keeping the momentum…
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FireAg said:

Yes…you and several others are absolutely crying about Trump's ability to steal the spotlight from DeSantis…hell that's the whole purpose behind this thread!

That you don't see that is what is laughable…

This isn't a "Trump" or "Cult45" problem…

It's a DeSantis problem and he needs to figure out how to do better…
What BS. No R candidates gets QUALITY air time by the demorat controlled networks. All they show 24/7 is Trumps drama. The reason is very simple, they are in the pocket of the DNC. Trump cant win the general. Whether you like it or not this is the truth.

The other candidates could have the perfect message say the right things and it be repeated only on their own media. The MSM will continue to cover Trump's antics like Jerry Springer covered low class idiots. Same dynamic that ensures another 4 years of rat rule.
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FireAg said:

People keep boasting about how DeSantis turned a purple Florida bright red…

And he absolutely did!

But what does it say when in Florida polls, he's currently getting curb-stomped by Trump?



I have only read this far and will see how long before someone blames Boomers.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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I dislike Trump a lot, but this doesn't move the needle for me. It's standard political game stuff. It's the lying and buffoonery that bothers me. Releasing news about him not only losing to the swamp in Washington, but also losing to the swamp in different STATES just to hog the press seems normal in comparison.
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For a man who promised we'd get tired of winning, he and his supporters sure do get off on showing how they are losing to the swamp all the damn time
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FireAg said:

People keep boasting about how DeSantis turned a purple Florida bright red…

And he absolutely did!

But what does it say when in Florida polls, he's currently getting curb-stomped by Trump?



Not much, Trump is from Florida.

Focusing on polls right now is a waste of time, at best they are a data point but treating them like they are super meaningful when we are 6 months from Iowa is a joke.
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FireAg said:

You might want to send them an email and let them know that message board posters like yourself are obviously very concerned about things, or you wouldn't be here trying to blame the other side for a loss that hasn't happened yet…

See…you're clearly worried about how things stand…and if you weren't, you wouldn't be trying so hard to convince a message board that you AREN'T worried…

You are literally a walking irony…and you don't even realize it…
Watch the news. How much time are they dedicating to this race? Hell even Podcasters are barely talking about it or if they are it's mainly about Trump and his legal issues. Panic by DeSantis is the last thing he needs to do. He is modeling his campaign after Obama in '08, Obama was down by 30 to Hillary into November then things shifted quickly as the first Primaries were coming up because he had built a ground game.

Panic is the last thing DeSantis needs to do. Outside of doing something really outrageous he is not getting news cycles right now and that's really ok. He's got $150 mill plus in the bank and is still raising a ton.
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He is modeling his campaign after Obama in '08, Obama was down by 30 to Hillary into November then things shifted quickly as the first Primaries were coming up because he had built a ground game.
Had Obama been white, do you really think he would have stood a chance against Hillary's carefully cultivated superdelegates for decades? They abandoned her solely because he was black.
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BTW, if you think it is a coincidence that Trump is doing minimal big rallies and is using Hannity for stuff like he did you aren't paying attention. Trump's campaign is running low on cash and they aren't getting big money donors. They are bragging about getting the small money folks and that's fine but Trump needs a LOT more cash. He's running his campaign on the cheap hoping for more free media because he is low on cash. Those rallies are really expensive but if he goes on Hannity then Fox picks up most if not the whole bill. Funny thing is he will then go on about how "Fox hates me!"

Dude knows how to grift, gotta respect the game.
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aggie93 said:

FireAg said:

You might want to send them an email and let them know that message board posters like yourself are obviously very concerned about things, or you wouldn't be here trying to blame the other side for a loss that hasn't happened yet…

See…you're clearly worried about how things stand…and if you weren't, you wouldn't be trying so hard to convince a message board that you AREN'T worried…

You are literally a walking irony…and you don't even realize it…
Watch the news. How much time are they dedicating to this race? Hell even Podcasters are barely talking about it or if they are it's mainly about Trump and his legal issues. Panic by DeSantis is the last thing he needs to do. He is modeling his campaign after Obama in '08, Obama was down by 30 to Hillary into November then things shifted quickly as the first Primaries were coming up because he had built a ground game.

Panic is the last thing DeSantis needs to do. Outside of doing something really outrageous he is not getting news cycles right now and that's really ok. He's got $150 mill plus in the bank and is still raising a ton.

Fair enough…then WHY are so many of your DeSantis brethren running around pissing and moaning about how Trump and his supporters are going to ruin the world before the damn primary even goes down?

One side of y'all's mouth screams "polls don't matter" while the other side of your mouth screams "Cult45 is going to ruin the world"…

You can't have it BOTH ways…
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aggie93 said:

BTW, if you think it is a coincidence that Trump is doing minimal big rallies and is using Hannity for stuff like he did you aren't paying attention. Trump's campaign is running low on cash and they aren't getting big money donors. They are bragging about getting the small money folks and that's fine but Trump needs a LOT more cash. He's running his campaign on the cheap hoping for more free media because he is low on cash. Those rallies are really expensive but if he goes on Hannity then Fox picks up most if not the whole bill. Funny thing is he will then go on about how "Fox hates me!"

Dude knows how to grift, gotta respect the game.

And however you and your brethren wanna label it, Trump is still leading bigly in the polls…so either that doesn't matter and you should stop worrying about what Trump is or isn't doing, or the polls actually do point to a major problem, and DeSantis is in trouble if he doesn't make a change…

It can't be both…y'all need to pick one…
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FireAg said:

aggie93 said:

BTW, if you think it is a coincidence that Trump is doing minimal big rallies and is using Hannity for stuff like he did you aren't paying attention. Trump's campaign is running low on cash and they aren't getting big money donors. They are bragging about getting the small money folks and that's fine but Trump needs a LOT more cash. He's running his campaign on the cheap hoping for more free media because he is low on cash. Those rallies are really expensive but if he goes on Hannity then Fox picks up most if not the whole bill. Funny thing is he will then go on about how "Fox hates me!"

Dude knows how to grift, gotta respect the game.

And however you and your brethren wanna label it, Trump is still leading bigly in the polls…so either that doesn't matter and you should stop worrying about what Trump is or isn't doing, or the polls actually do point to a major problem, and DeSantis is in trouble if he doesn't make a change…

It can't be both…y'all need to pick one…
You speak as if this isn't a joint effort by the Trump campaign, the media, and the Democrats. They are allies of convenience. They, you, and everyone else knows DeSantis would be an extremely effective president. This is all going to ensure the Democrats win.

Trump isn't playing the politics alone. He has help that will immediately destroy him in the general.

It is perfectly right and valid to be very frustrated and angry about this.
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FireAg said:

ttu_85 said:

FireAg said:

Yes…you and several others are absolutely crying about Trump's ability to steal the spotlight from DeSantis…hell that's the whole purpose behind this thread!

That you don't see that is what is laughable…

This isn't a "Trump" or "Cult45" problem…

It's a DeSantis problem and he needs to figure out how to do better…
What BS. No R candidates gets QUALITY air time by the demorat controlled networks. All they show 24/7 is Trumps drama. The reason is very simple, they are in the pocket of the DNC. Trump cant win the general. Whether you like it or not this is the truth.

The other candidates could have the perfect message say the right things and it be repeated only on their own media. The MSM will continue to cover Trump's antics like Jerry Springer covered low class idiots. Same dynamic that ensures another 4 years of rat rule.

Waaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!

Stop crying about it…start forcing your candidate o do something that changes the narrative…

DeSantis need to be better to get noticed…or are you already assuming he has lost before the primary vote?

Stop blaming others for the predicament and start asking your candidate to do something different to change the damn game…


Are you under the impression we work for DeSantis' campaign or have any control over his strategy?
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FireAg said:

aggie93 said:

FireAg said:

You might want to send them an email and let them know that message board posters like yourself are obviously very concerned about things, or you wouldn't be here trying to blame the other side for a loss that hasn't happened yet…

See…you're clearly worried about how things stand…and if you weren't, you wouldn't be trying so hard to convince a message board that you AREN'T worried…

You are literally a walking irony…and you don't even realize it…
Watch the news. How much time are they dedicating to this race? Hell even Podcasters are barely talking about it or if they are it's mainly about Trump and his legal issues. Panic by DeSantis is the last thing he needs to do. He is modeling his campaign after Obama in '08, Obama was down by 30 to Hillary into November then things shifted quickly as the first Primaries were coming up because he had built a ground game.

Panic is the last thing DeSantis needs to do. Outside of doing something really outrageous he is not getting news cycles right now and that's really ok. He's got $150 mill plus in the bank and is still raising a ton.

Fair enough…then WHY are so many of your DeSantis brethren running around pissing and moaning about how Trump and his supporters are going to ruin the world before the damn primary even goes down?

One side of y'all's mouth screams "polls don't matter" while the other side of your mouth screams "Cult45 is going to ruin the world"…

You can't have it BOTH ways…
good point also why is it ok to post Cult45 but nothing toward Destantis ?
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LarryElder said:

FireAg said:

aggie93 said:

FireAg said:

You might want to send them an email and let them know that message board posters like yourself are obviously very concerned about things, or you wouldn't be here trying to blame the other side for a loss that hasn't happened yet…

See…you're clearly worried about how things stand…and if you weren't, you wouldn't be trying so hard to convince a message board that you AREN'T worried…

You are literally a walking irony…and you don't even realize it…
Watch the news. How much time are they dedicating to this race? Hell even Podcasters are barely talking about it or if they are it's mainly about Trump and his legal issues. Panic by DeSantis is the last thing he needs to do. He is modeling his campaign after Obama in '08, Obama was down by 30 to Hillary into November then things shifted quickly as the first Primaries were coming up because he had built a ground game.

Panic is the last thing DeSantis needs to do. Outside of doing something really outrageous he is not getting news cycles right now and that's really ok. He's got $150 mill plus in the bank and is still raising a ton.

Fair enough…then WHY are so many of your DeSantis brethren running around pissing and moaning about how Trump and his supporters are going to ruin the world before the damn primary even goes down?

One side of y'all's mouth screams "polls don't matter" while the other side of your mouth screams "Cult45 is going to ruin the world"…

You can't have it BOTH ways…
good point also why is it ok to post Cult45 but nothing toward Destantis ?


Would you prefer L Don Hubbard?
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Phatbob said:

LarryElder said:

FireAg said:

aggie93 said:

FireAg said:

You might want to send them an email and let them know that message board posters like yourself are obviously very concerned about things, or you wouldn't be here trying to blame the other side for a loss that hasn't happened yet…

See…you're clearly worried about how things stand…and if you weren't, you wouldn't be trying so hard to convince a message board that you AREN'T worried…

You are literally a walking irony…and you don't even realize it…
Watch the news. How much time are they dedicating to this race? Hell even Podcasters are barely talking about it or if they are it's mainly about Trump and his legal issues. Panic by DeSantis is the last thing he needs to do. He is modeling his campaign after Obama in '08, Obama was down by 30 to Hillary into November then things shifted quickly as the first Primaries were coming up because he had built a ground game.

Panic is the last thing DeSantis needs to do. Outside of doing something really outrageous he is not getting news cycles right now and that's really ok. He's got $150 mill plus in the bank and is still raising a ton.

Fair enough…then WHY are so many of your DeSantis brethren running around pissing and moaning about how Trump and his supporters are going to ruin the world before the damn primary even goes down?

One side of y'all's mouth screams "polls don't matter" while the other side of your mouth screams "Cult45 is going to ruin the world"…

You can't have it BOTH ways…
good point also why is it ok to post Cult45 but nothing toward Destantis ?


Would you prefer L Don Hubbard?
Not sure but Rhonda Desantis supporters crying about Trump being indicated is high comedy
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aggiehawg said:

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He is modeling his campaign after Obama in '08, Obama was down by 30 to Hillary into November then things shifted quickly as the first Primaries were coming up because he had built a ground game.
Had Obama been white, do you really think he would have stood a chance against Hillary's carefully cultivated superdelegates for decades? They abandoned her solely because he was black.
No comparison is ever exact. Some things were harder for Obama (Hillary was far more powerful with the Dems than Trump with the Reps, Super Delegates, no real "Anti Hillary" faction within the Dem Party, Obama had no real record). Some things were much easier (Hillary didn't take Obama seriously until it was too late, The Black thing, Tremendous personality and star power).

Still the overall strategies compare. DeSantis is going against a big frontrunner with universal Name ID and a lot of built in advantages and is focusing on ground game and building a base of support hoping to peak as they go into Iowa and then the race is on.

Could go either way, we'll see.
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Nobody thrashes the libs like trump. Trump goes on CNN and rolls them. They're still hurting from there. Trump is the best at slamming libs heads into the pavement until they crack.

The man has a gift.
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FireAg said:

aggie93 said:

BTW, if you think it is a coincidence that Trump is doing minimal big rallies and is using Hannity for stuff like he did you aren't paying attention. Trump's campaign is running low on cash and they aren't getting big money donors. They are bragging about getting the small money folks and that's fine but Trump needs a LOT more cash. He's running his campaign on the cheap hoping for more free media because he is low on cash. Those rallies are really expensive but if he goes on Hannity then Fox picks up most if not the whole bill. Funny thing is he will then go on about how "Fox hates me!"

Dude knows how to grift, gotta respect the game.

And however you and your brethren wanna label it, Trump is still leading bigly in the polls…so either that doesn't matter and you should stop worrying about what Trump is or isn't doing, or the polls actually do point to a major problem, and DeSantis is in trouble if he doesn't make a change…

It can't be both…y'all need to pick one…
I'll keep that in mind for our next super secret DeSantis Club meeting! lol

I speak for myself and have for more than 25 years on this site. I call it like I see it based on analysis of the race from multiple sources and listening to the candidates and their strategists. Talking heads are pretty worthless for the most part, most are just trying to get views or clicks and are looking at things at a surface level. I have consistently said polls are pretty meaningless at this point and said it to you many times. They have some value but it's more about the deeper trends and underlying current than the national numbers. Anyone that knows anything about how a Primary season goes knows that everything changes after Iowa and then it shifts again after each of the early Primaries. DeSantis must do well in Iowa but he is doing everything he should do right now to make that happen, his ground game is tremendous and while he doesn't have a formal endorsement for other reasons he clearly has Reynolds and Earnst deep in his pocket as well as some of the most influential people in the State. Then NH, SC, and NV all have very different tests.

The most consistent thing that you see though, and this is of course common for a Party out of power, is that people want to win and will vote for the winner. As we get closer the factor of who is most likely to win becomes much more important. As of now polling favors Trump on that, people in the GOP see him as more likely to win. Anyone with a fraction of political analysis knows though that DeSantis has much better fundamentals than Trump against either Biden or Newsom though. DeSantis is going to hit on that day after day and try to chip away at Trump.

I have no idea if it will work or who will win and anyone who says they do is either hopecasting or naive. This race is going to continue to shift but it is unlikely to have major moves until late in the Fall at the earliest. If it does that is very, very bad for Trump. Why? Trump is at a money disadvantage and his biggest strength is a sense of inevitability. If DeSantis can fracture that Trump will lose and it could happen much faster than people think. Of course on the other side DeSantis has a very small margin for error and Trump may be reckless and undisciplined but he is smart and he knows how to play the game. DeSantis can't afford many significant mistakes. Fortunately he hasn't really made any (meaning a mistake that he can't recover from). He's kept it to policy and not personal with Trump. He hasn't lost his temper. He hasn't had a Rick Perry moment or a Howard Dean. He's being careful and disciplined and waiting for his opportunity. Trump is doing the opposite, he's going big early and trying to crush DeSantis and convince people the race is over before it starts.

From a pure political science perspective this is fascinating gamesmanship, two completely different strategies and campaigns from two very talented politicians that have so much in common policy wise but are completely opposite style wise. From a personal perspective it scares the hell out of me because I don't see any way Trump can win the General and I could see him losing very badly and dragging the GOP down with him with dire consequences for the country.

I try to keep the emotions out of the analysis as much as I can but I'm human too, it will be something to watch for sure. That said the "DeSantis must do something NOW!" stuff just gets old and makes me shake my head, it's just not how this thing works.
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Grapesoda2525 said:

Nobody thrashes the libs like trump. Trump goes on CNN and rolls them. They're still hurting from there. Trump is the best at slamming libs heads into the pavement until they crack.

The man has a gift.
Dude you are trolling so hard, must have gotten a hold of some quality weed.
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FireAg said:

People keep boasting about how DeSantis turned a purple Florida bright red…

And he absolutely did!

But what does it say when in Florida polls, he's currently getting curb-stomped by Trump?




Hillary curb-stomped Trump in the polls too. How did that turn out?
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FireAg said:

ttu_85 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

Trump doing his utmost to make sure the Dems hold the WH till at least Jan 29. And his pathetic minions will make it happen. Low IQ clowns.


It takes real intelligence to call people dumb. You should write a book.
With the demorats rotting the country form the inside out, it takes a lack of intelligence to back a twit like Trump when there are far better options to beat the stinking filth that is the demorats

Trump is going to give the rats another 4 years to finish off what is left of this republic. And those that back Trump in the primaries will also be responsible.

Wrong…DeSantis is going to give the leftists 4 more years because he is failing at taking the spotlight off of Trump and putting it on himself…

You don't blame followers for failures…you always blame leaders, and if you want DeSantis to lead the R's for the next 4 years, then he'd better damn well step up and do something about Trump stealing the spotlight and keeping the momentum…


You've been called out on this line of thinking multiple times, yet you stubbornly persist. Desantis doesn't own networks. He doesn't get to determine lineups. The media companies WANT to show trump. He's watched by the most people because so many hate him and many love him. He creates strong emotions, which is what we have been trained to tune into.

How does desantis do that? Should he say idiotic things like trump? Should he go back in time and be a bombastic billionaire for 40-50 years before running for president? You keep saying desantis need sit steal the spotlight while conveniently ignoring the fact that trump has had the spotlight for multiple decades. If you're not doing it on purpose, then take this as a chance to reevaluate your position.
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The Banned said:

FireAg said:

ttu_85 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

Trump doing his utmost to make sure the Dems hold the WH till at least Jan 29. And his pathetic minions will make it happen. Low IQ clowns.


It takes real intelligence to call people dumb. You should write a book.
With the demorats rotting the country form the inside out, it takes a lack of intelligence to back a twit like Trump when there are far better options to beat the stinking filth that is the demorats

Trump is going to give the rats another 4 years to finish off what is left of this republic. And those that back Trump in the primaries will also be responsible.

Wrong…DeSantis is going to give the leftists 4 more years because he is failing at taking the spotlight off of Trump and putting it on himself…

You don't blame followers for failures…you always blame leaders, and if you want DeSantis to lead the R's for the next 4 years, then he'd better damn well step up and do something about Trump stealing the spotlight and keeping the momentum…


You've been called out on this line of thinking multiple times, yet you stubbornly persist. Desantis doesn't own networks. He doesn't get to determine lineups. The media companies WANT to show trump. He's watched by the most people because so many hate him and many love him. He creates strong emotions, which is what we have been trained to tune into.

How does desantis do that? Should he say idiotic things like trump? Should he go back in time and be a bombastic billionaire for 40-50 years before running for president? You keep saying desantis need sit steal the spotlight while conveniently ignoring the fact that trump has had the spotlight for multiple decades. If you're not doing it on purpose, then take this as a chance to reevaluate your position.


Nothing but excuses for supposedly the best political candidate in decades.
Yet Desantis is the hands down to win the general
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The problem with Trump is not just his personality and leadership flaws. I don't like what we do as a country with him in the political sphere. He's bad for us. Whether he is the cause or the result (I think he is both) of the current political environment, he is the symptom, and facilitator, of destructive behavior as a country. Before you pile on, Obama was the same way.

This appeal to say "DeSantis needs to pull the spotlight away from Trump" is in one way true, but also it is us as the consumers of political products that needs to change what we demand from those producers. I don't want to be living in Idiocracy anymore. Just because Trump can successfully turn everything into a circus doesn't mean that is a good thing. WE need to be better than that. WE need to not be the freaking idiots who line up for the next hit of meth just because someone is handing it out.
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Phatbob said:

The problem with Trump is not just his personality and leadership flaws. I don't like what we do as a country with him in the political sphere. He's bad for us. Whether he is the cause or the result (I think he is both) of the current political environment, he is the symptom, and facilitator, of destructive behavior as a country. Before you pile on, Obama was the same way.

This appeal to say "DeSantis needs to pull the spotlight away from Trump" is in one way true, but also it is us as the consumers of political products that needs to change what we demand from those producers. I don't want to be living in Idiocracy anymore. Just because Trump can successfully turn everything into a circus doesn't mean that is a good thing. WE need to be better than that. WE need to not be the freaking idiots who line up for the next hit of meth just because someone is handing it out.


Agreed. Desantis can't "pull the spotlight away". We (both media and media consumers) need to stop paying alternation to trump. I understand why there is loyalty there, but I keep hoping people will wake up to the fact that he was absolutely owned by the swamp and almost all of his accomplishment la were via EOs that were changed the second Biden got into office. He needs to go away.
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The Banned said:

Phatbob said:

The problem with Trump is not just his personality and leadership flaws. I don't like what we do as a country with him in the political sphere. He's bad for us. Whether he is the cause or the result (I think he is both) of the current political environment, he is the symptom, and facilitator, of destructive behavior as a country. Before you pile on, Obama was the same way.

This appeal to say "DeSantis needs to pull the spotlight away from Trump" is in one way true, but also it is us as the consumers of political products that needs to change what we demand from those producers. I don't want to be living in Idiocracy anymore. Just because Trump can successfully turn everything into a circus doesn't mean that is a good thing. WE need to be better than that. WE need to not be the freaking idiots who line up for the next hit of meth just because someone is handing it out.


Agreed. Desantis can't "pull the spotlight away". We (both media and media consumers) need to stop paying alternation to trump. I understand why there is loyalty there, but I keep hoping people will wake up to the fact that he was absolutely owned by the swamp and almost all of his accomplishment la were via EOs that were changed the second Biden got into office. He needs to go away.


"Owned by the swamp"

The swamp includes a fair amount of the Republican Party. The same part of the Republican Party that is supporting Desantis now because they want Trump gone.
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AGHouston11 said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

Trump doing his utmost to make sure the Dems hold the WH till at least Jan 29. And his pathetic minions will make it happen. Low IQ clowns.


It takes real intelligence to call people dumb. You should write a book.
With the demorats rotting the country form the inside out, it takes a lack of intelligence to back a twit like Trump when there are far better options to beat the stinking filth that is the demorats

Trump is going to give the rats another 4 years to finish off what is left of this republic. And those that back Trump in the primaries will also be responsible.

Wrong…DeSantis is going to give the leftists 4 more years because he is failing at taking the spotlight off of Trump and putting it on himself…

You don't blame followers for failures…you always blame leaders, and if you want DeSantis to lead the R's for the next 4 years, then he'd better damn well step up and do something about Trump stealing the spotlight and keeping the momentum…


You've been called out on this line of thinking multiple times, yet you stubbornly persist. Desantis doesn't own networks. He doesn't get to determine lineups. The media companies WANT to show trump. He's watched by the most people because so many hate him and many love him. He creates strong emotions, which is what we have been trained to tune into.

How does desantis do that? Should he say idiotic things like trump? Should he go back in time and be a bombastic billionaire for 40-50 years before running for president? You keep saying desantis need sit steal the spotlight while conveniently ignoring the fact that trump has had the spotlight for multiple decades. If you're not doing it on purpose, then take this as a chance to reevaluate your position.


Nothing but excuses for supposedly the best political candidate in decades.
Yet Desantis is the hands down to win the general


It's not excuses. These are facts. A salad is better for you than fast food but what types of restaurants do we see on every street corner? It's commonly understood that people want to consume what's bad for them as long as it entertains/feels good/etc
 
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