Right there with you. My Bosses are the same way.

Logos Stick said:

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Muktheduck said:

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The young people you mention have been dealing with it as a part of daily life. All of the woke nonsense has been socially enforced on the youth for their entire lives.

I'm glad older generations have finally realized what's been done; however, that attitude of "oh well I'm close to retirement so I'm not going to do anything about it, good luck with that" is weak. As a generation, you allowed this hijacking of society but don't feel any need to try and correct it? Even from a completely selfish viewpoint, do you really think this stuff will just stop affecting you after age 65?

You know what they say, "weak men create hard times.."

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The only thing I can do is vote with my money and vote on election day. That's my contribution.

What else would you have me do? Raise a stink and get canned. Not gonna happen. That won't change a darn thing. Nobody wants to hire old people, especially someone who is not going to conform with corporate insanity now.

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It's not going to stop until people do start standing up. Nobody wants to hire young white males either; that's what DEI is there for in the first place. Your logic is that everyone should just conform to it lest they be out of a job. So it will go on unchecked

I would think it would be easier to stand up to it with most of your career behind you instead of ahead of you. But maybe the younger guys know that if everyone just swallows it like they're told to, white males will be unhireable a decade from now anyways

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Logos Stick said:

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First time for me.

Even a full section on using correct pronouns. .

Glad I'm an old dude and only have a few years left in the workforce.

The future is gonna suck real hard for you young folk. You have my full sympathy.



Yeah I know, dear diary.

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Now woke priest says you can go to heaven

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But which heaven?

DD88 said:

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Blast them in the "anonymous" surveys.

If they have some type of Speak-Up program, challenge them to uphold religious liberties and seek more of a balance in HR.

Ask them when they will include protecting religious liberties in the "diversity" training.

Remind them of the recent SCOTUS decisions (Creative 303, Groff), especially if the company is opposing religious freedom legislation in various local, state, or national levels.

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The problem with "anonymous" is that there is no such thing as anonymous, especially when it goes against what the company is supporting 100%.

They will eventually find out.

Bird Poo said:

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I'm becoming convinced that DEI is a corporate strategy to pay people lower.

I'm looking at an internal position within my company and it's a lateral move. Reached out to the recruiter and she responded with a small lecture about equity, and would not commit to keeping my current pay even though it's the same job grade. I'm more than qualified and it's total BS.

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That is nonsensical. She's a liar or is incompetent.

What is the reasoning?

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DD88 said:

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Blast them in the "anonymous" surveys.

If they have some type of Speak-Up program, challenge them to uphold religious liberties and seek more of a balance in HR.

Ask them when they will include protecting religious liberties in the "diversity" training.

Remind them of the recent SCOTUS decisions (Creative 303, Groff), especially if the company is opposing religious freedom legislation in various local, state, or national levels.

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The problem with "anonymous" is that there is no such thing as anonymous, especially when it goes against what the company is supporting 100%.

They will eventually find out.

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I had my doubts as well, which is why I added the quotes.

But I didn't hold back on criticizing them on the surveys.

If they were to bring up something from the "anonymous" surveys, just document it and expose them to all the employees you could still communicate with.

I didn't complete the "anonymous" survey after a training. About a week later I get a follow up phone call " why haven't you competed the survey? "

"If it is anonymous, how would you know? "


They're never anonymous.

Rapier108 said:

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One reason I'm glad I work for a small company.

DEI/ESG/Woke **** will never happen here. The owner is so far right he makes Ronald Reagan look to the left of Marx.

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Sounds perfect. You hiring????

The oilfield hasn't changed. The owners calling the shots have changed.

Logos Stick said:

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First time for me.

Even a full section on using correct pronouns. .

Glad I'm an old dude and only have a few years left in the workforce.

The future is gonna suck real hard for you young folk. You have my full sympathy.



Yeah I know, dear diary.

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You should have refused the training on religious grounds. If not you then who?

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Beat40 said:

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Bird Poo said:

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I'm becoming convinced that DEI is a corporate strategy to pay people lower.

I'm looking at an internal position within my company and it's a lateral move. Reached out to the recruiter and she responded with a small lecture about equity, and would not commit to keeping my current pay even though it's the same job grade. I'm more than qualified and it's total BS.

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I've been out of college and working for 15 years and it has been interesting watching how corporations have changed.

I remember in my college business classes discussing corporations' responsibility for sustainability as they saw corporations as being part of the community and, if they were completely honest, could use that as an advantage to build brand loyalty.

The problem is it leads to the inevitable if you chase public perception to help build your company - you become beholden to what the community thinks and believes, which can shift with the wind.

I think that is the root cause of DEI - companies focusing more on how they are perceived rather than trying to continually make the best possible product they can.

Add in capital being ESG dependent from capital investors and lenders and you've got yourself a mess.

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The amount of "carbon neutral" plans coming out is staggering right now. Everyone wants to switch to electrification and completely ignore where the electricity comes from.

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The people running these corporations will sacrifice some profit in order to keep in alignment with their values (which is to save the world by reducing CO2 emission).

Urban Ag said:

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My first real job was working at a rock mining plant. At the shop they had every Playboy Playmate centerfold stapled on the wall going back to the early 70's. This was 1992 so it was quite a collection.

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You should have seen the calendars the tool companies printed for several decades (until the mid-late 80's IIRC) and were hanging up in industrial workplaces all across the country.

Sure, there were the 'classy' ones, like the Ridgid Tool calendar, with clean-looking girls in skimpy swimsuits.



But then, there were some other companies who found girls/women who definitely weren't the type you'd take home to mom. They were the type you'd take home to dad!

Some of those pictures, poses and 'outfits' would peel the paint off of toolroom walls, or so I'm told.

Hell, hanging one of those up today would get you the chair (they'd bring it back just for you), and the vendor banned from ever getting any business.

Rapier108 said:

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One reason I'm glad I work for a small company.

DEI/ESG/Woke **** will never happen here. The owner is so far right he makes Ronald Reagan look to the left of Marx.

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Reagan would not be welcome in Trump's fanboy party.

Interesting, I did not know that. Where can I learn more about this academic? TIA

Let me find the reference, it may take some time, but I think a key word search might work. It was a female author of one of the earlier Intersectionality works, I will have to find the source reference in an interview I was listening to a couple years back.

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Workers have more power in this than they know.

I know of a recent DEI training in an oilfield company where the presenter ended up in tears and the workers walked out.

If you have an office job, you might get cancelled. If you are a roughneck they aren't running you and all your buddies off.

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Lmao, I cannot believe they continue to try this **** with oilfield workers who aren't corporate. It's amazing how out of touch HR is with them.

Logos Stick said:

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P.H. Dexippus said:

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How did you resist the indoctrination? What was your act of civil disobedience? TexAgs posting doesn't count, and we all have to do our part.

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Hard eye roll. Does that count?!

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You're old bro, have fun. Just let out a fart every time they say the word equity. Not a loud one, just loud enough that they wonder if it was a fart or someone shifting in their chair.

Muktheduck said:

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The young people you mention have been dealing with it as a part of daily life. All of the woke nonsense has been socially enforced on the youth for their entire lives.

I'm glad older generations have finally realized what's been done; however, that attitude of "oh well I'm close to retirement so I'm not going to do anything about it, good luck with that" is weak. As a generation, you allowed this hijacking of society but don't feel any need to try and correct it? Even from a completely selfish viewpoint, do you really think this stuff will just stop affecting you after age 65?

You know what they say, "weak men create hard times.."

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Yeah, and those "weak men" are dems... libs...

It sounds like you're heaving the responsibility of your failures upon us... the olds. Young people need to get off their dead asses and take the bull by the horns. Quit asking us olds to fix the **** you voted for. Fight your own battles. Yes... we're on the way out. It's your turn.

Jeezuz Christ, some people.

Logos Stick said:

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First time for me.

Even a full section on using correct pronouns. .

Glad I'm an old dude and only have a few years left in the workforce.

The future is gonna suck real hard for you young folk. You have my full sympathy.



Yeah I know, dear diary.

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I haven't sat through a pronoun one, but I know I am not going to be able to help myself from asking what other things the company thinks they can mandate that I play pretend about in order to placate some other adult they seem to think garners more respect for their choices than I do.

Not only is this stuff BS but it's dangerous. The hospital system I work for wanted to change the electronic chart so when a provider looks at it, it shows their "preferred gender" rather than their biological sex which you would have had to dig for to see

Thankfully enough providers told them that's both stupid and dangerous and that we don't care what they think of themselves but we need the correct biological, scientific information to make sure critical tests and results happen

This stupid "muh feelings first" is going to get people killed

P.H. Dexippus said:

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How did you resist the indoctrination? What was your act of civil disobedience? TexAgs posting doesn't count, and we all have to do our part.

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I'm a fan of the Soviet way. Just leave one bolt loose on the tank. **** adds up and it makes you feel like you're resisting.

Buck Turgidson said:

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There is a labor shortage that will persist for the next decade. Don't put up with woke **** from your employer.

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This. You need to create resistance among the staff and then leave. It is toxic and will require active resistance to prevent the practice.

Logos Stick said:

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First time for me.

Even a full section on using correct pronouns. .

Glad I'm an old dude and only have a few years left in the workforce.

The future is gonna suck real hard for you young folk. You have my full sympathy.



Yeah I know, dear diary.

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What pronouns did you chose?

Dude/Dude/Dude?

Thank the good Lord I'm self-employed and will never suffer through this bull****

DEI management training was horrible when i worked for a European company. Now I work for Japanese company and not a peep about equity, microagressions, etc. They do push diversity, but is in in the context of don't be biased, as you might miss out on a great productive employee.

Cyprian said:

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DEI management training was horrible when i worked for a European company. Now I work for Japanese company and not a peep about equity, microagressions, etc. They do push diversity, but is in in the context of don't be biased, as you might miss out on a great productive employee.

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Oh that reminds me...

They referred to them in my training as microinequities, not microaggressions.

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