GisselMcDonald said:

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Wouldn't a good leader get everyone rowing in the same direction to get the mission done?

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The ONLY mission these politicians are on is the one to impoverish and strip the rights from We The People!

GisselMcDonald said:

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Wouldn't a good leader get everyone rowing in the same direction to get the mission done?

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That's why I am voting for Ron in the Primary

The pigs are squealing...

GisselMcDonald said:

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1. Lock her up
2. Drain the Swamp
3. Repeal and replace Obamacare
and this one:

President Trump: "If I lose to [Joe Biden], I don't know what I'm going to do -- I will never speak to you again. You'll never see me again." pic.twitter.com/jQ2RRfHIyH

— The Hill (@thehill) September 19, 2020

What other campaign promises did he fail on?

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1. He had no power to lock her up because the deep state protects/protected those who are (D)ifferent from conservatives.
2. His attempts to drain the swamp were often stopped by corrupt RINOs in power, like Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney, OR after 2019, the Democrats who had the House.
3. He would have repealed Obamacare if turncoat political traitor McCain had not give his vindictive and vengeful thumbs down ...... despite his promises to his constituency that he would always vote to repeal it.
4. He did not legitimately lose the last election. I have no doubt he lost the total number of ballots cast cumulatively across the country, but the election was stolen from him in 5 metro areas - Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Phoenix. He should have only 'gone away' on the basis of that promise if we had a fully transparent and fair election which we didn't because the left 'fortified' it.... by their own admission.

TheEternalPessimist said:

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1. He had no power to lock her up because the deep state protects/protected those who are (D)ifferent from conservatives.
2. His attempts to drain the swamp were often stopped by corrupt RINOs in power, like Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney, OR after 2019, the Democrats who had the House.
3. He would have repealed Obamacare if turncoat political traitor McCain had not give his vindictive and vengeful thumbs down ...... despite his promises to his constituency that he would always vote to repeal it.
4. He did not legitimately lose the last election. I have no doubt he lost the total number of ballots cast cumulatively across the country, but the election was stolen from him in 5 metro areas - Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Phoenix. He should have only 'gone away' on the basis of that promise if we had a fully transparent and fair election which we didn't because the left 'fortified' it.... by their own admission.

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So you are saying he is incapable of fulfilling his campaign promises...

He was obstructed from day 1. It's not his fault. Nobody could govern like that, especially not with the MSM and blue checkmarks making up lies about him.

Republicans just need to wake up to the fact that Trump cannot give you what you want. He doesn't have the skills, the temperament, the principles, or the electoral capacity to accomplish the things you want him to do.

Instead of the typical "Now do Biden" response... do some critical thinking about who the right person is to do the job. Sometimes we like to cling to things we love that are outdated and can't accomplish the tasks properly, but this isn't the kind of thing we can afford to do.

We need to replace Biden... BADLY. We have the evidence we need to know that Trump CANNOT DO THAT.

BMX Bandit said:

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1. Lock her up didn't even try. gave up on that in november 2016.
2. Drain the Swamp didn't even try. just added his own swamp rats.
3. Repeal and replace Obamacare he would have, but Mccain screwed us all

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#3 is an indictment on trump, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe would have voted against it either way, but it seems to me he hated trump more than he loved doing what is right. Only trump can elicit a response like that

Ellis Wyatt said:

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GisselMcDonald said:

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1. Lock her up
2. Drain the Swamp
3. Repeal and replace Obamacare
and this one:

President Trump: "If I lose to [Joe Biden], I don't know what I'm going to do -- I will never speak to you again. You'll never see me again." pic.twitter.com/jQ2RRfHIyH

— The Hill (@thehill) September 19, 2020

What other campaign promises did he fail on?

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I am no Trumpster, but this list is dumb.

1. Trump is not the DOJ and was immediately hamstrung by the democrats and Jeff Sessions. Where were republicans?

2. We saw how the Swamp completely crippled him and fought him every single day. Where were republicans?

3. Trump is not Congress. Where were republicans?

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So, then what good will come from getting Trump back in the WH if he'll have even less support than last time, and he couldn't get this done with the support he had then?

How's he going to "own the libs" or even "get revenge" then?

GisselMcDonald said:

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Wouldn't a good leader get everyone rowing in the same direction to get the mission done?

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A good leader would
1. Recognize RINO's in the party will stand in the way of anything that helps America
2. Campaign to get rid of these folks
3. Do his best to bring in politicians that will help America.

See article above that Trump got rid of 45% of republican house/senate members.

He needs 4 more years to finish the job.

Oh thank God! Now that we have the Senate and an insurmountable lead in the House, we can do all sorts of cool *****

I'm no Trump apologist, but the (R) swamp fought him the first 2 years. He had everything, but the swamp was too thick with thieves.

Phatbob said:

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Republicans just need to wake up to the fact that Trump cannot give you what you want. He doesn't have the skills, the temperament, the principles, or the electoral capacity to accomplish the things you want him to do.

Instead of the typical "Now do Biden" response... do some critical thinking about who the right person is to do the job. Sometimes we like to cling to things we love that are outdated and can't accomplish the tasks properly, but this isn't the kind of thing we can afford to do.

We need to replace Biden... BADLY. We have the evidence we need to know that Trump CANNOT DO THAT.

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Great points, but maga is all about the feelz Trump gives them. They've got no use for stupid things like critical thinking, evidence, skills, temperament, principles, or any other such nonsense. Those things don't give them the feelz. They need the mean tweets and 24/7 assault on anything not maga, including Republicans in office that don't sweat fealty to him.

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CoppellAg93 said:

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Now do Biden.

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Lol. Biden said he would cure cancer

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Biden did cut the orange cancer out of the WH.

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And brought in naked, mentally ill trans people cavorting on the WH lawn, made someone (who we don't know but I'm sure the feds know) feel comfortable enough to walk in the WH with cocaine and is allowing a 53 year old drug addicted tax cheat and gun felon to live in luxury at taxpayer expense.

Science Denier said:

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GisselMcDonald said:

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Wouldn't a good leader get everyone rowing in the same direction to get the mission done?

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A good leader would
1. Recognize RINO's in the party will stand in the way of anything that helps America
2. Campaign to get rid of these folks
3. Do his best to bring in politicians that will help America.

See article above that Trump got rid of 45% of republican house/senate members.

He needs 4 more years to finish the job.

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Lol yes, he did such a great job as the leader of the party that the republicans *checks notes* lost 19 seats in the house between 2016 and 2022 and lost the senate. Can't wait for four more years of winning!

Science Denier said:

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GisselMcDonald said:

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Wouldn't a good leader get everyone rowing in the same direction to get the mission done?

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A good leader would
1. Recognize RINO's in the party will stand in the way of anything that helps America
2. Campaign to get rid of these folks
3. Do his best to bring in politicians that will help America.

See article above that Trump got rid of 45% of republican house/senate members.

He needs 4 more years to finish the job.

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If by "finish the job" you mean get rid of the rest of the Republican house/senate members, giving the Democrats a majority of both houses, I think you might have a point.

whatthehey78 said:

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Biden / Kamala...lolololololololololololoolololololololololololololololololololololololololol, breathe. lololololololololololololololololololololololololololol, 81 MM votes...lolololololololololololololololol
lololololololololololololo

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I guess you have never heard of the Electoral College and that maximizing the total number of votes does not win Presidential elections.

No Spin Ag said:

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Phatbob said:

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Republicans just need to wake up to the fact that Trump cannot give you what you want. He doesn't have the skills, the temperament, the principles, or the electoral capacity to accomplish the things you want him to do.

Instead of the typical "Now do Biden" response... do some critical thinking about who the right person is to do the job. Sometimes we like to cling to things we love that are outdated and can't accomplish the tasks properly, but this isn't the kind of thing we can afford to do.

We need to replace Biden... BADLY. We have the evidence we need to know that Trump CANNOT DO THAT.

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Great points, but maga is all about the feelz Trump gives them. They've got no use for stupid things like critical thinking, evidence, skills, temperament, principles, or any other such nonsense. Those things don't give them the feelz. They need the mean tweets and 24/7 assault on anything not maga, including Republicans in office that don't sweat fealty to him.

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So it seems like the only ones who don't vote with feelz are desantis supporters?

AggieVictor10 said:

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So it seems like the only ones who don't vote with feelz are desantis supporters?

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There is a difference between having emotions and allowing your emotions to overrule all evidence to the contrary.

CoppellAg93 said:

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Now do Biden.

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Funny how the numerous failed promises (and bad policy promises kept) from our current POTUS go ignored by some…but they can't stop bringing up Trump.

Watching pro establishment "conservatives" blame trump for not draining swamp or repealing Obamacare

Franklin Comes Alive! said:

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Watching pro establishment "conservatives" blame trump for not draining swamp or repealing Obamacare

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I don't give a damn about "blame". I care about capacity to do the job. Trump couldn't do it when he had the chance, and now that he has even more baggage, there is no way in hell he is going to be more capable this time around. And no, when it comes down to dealing with reality, it doesn't matter where the baggage comes from, it's still his to deal with, and we know he can't deal with the baggage and accomplish anything at the same time.

Do we know if someone else can? We haven't seen that yet, but we do know who CAN'T do it, and that is Donald Trump, so it seems asinine to choose the one person who has demonstrated that they can't do it to try it again.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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GisselMcDonald said:

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1. Lock her up
2. Drain the Swamp
3. Repeal and replace Obamacare
and this one:

President Trump: "If I lose to [Joe Biden], I don't know what I'm going to do -- I will never speak to you again. You'll never see me again." pic.twitter.com/jQ2RRfHIyH

— The Hill (@thehill) September 19, 2020

What other campaign promises did he fail on?

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I am no Trumpster, but this list is dumb.

1. Trump is not the DOJ and was immediately hamstrung by the democrats and Jeff Sessions. Where were republicans?

2. We saw how the Swamp completely crippled him and fought him every single day. Where were republicans?

3. Trump is not Congress. Where were republicans?

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McCain voted with the Dems to stop #3.

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Trump is not the DOJ and was immediately hamstrung by the democrats and Jeff Sessions. Where were republicans?

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Explain how Sessions hamstrung Trump on the "lock her up" issue please.

PA24 said:

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If Desantis loses the Republican primary to Trump, he will be labeled a loser and his career finished.

Just like the last Florida governor that Trump beat.

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So what does that make Trump if he loses again to Biden?

PA24 said:

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If Desantis loses the Republican primary to Trump, he will be labeled a loser and his career finished.

Just like the last Florida governor that Trump beat.

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2. He said he won't have time to play golf if elected president.

But he has made more than 250 visits to his golf clubs since he took officea record for any presidentincluding more trips during the pandemic than meetings with Dr. Fauci.

Phatbob said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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So it seems like the only ones who don't vote with feelz are desantis supporters?

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There is a difference between having emotions and allowing your emotions to overrule all evidence to the contrary.

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Reads like more condescension from a desantis-type about anyone anywhere who isn't ron desantis, pretty common on this board

Ellis Wyatt said:

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GisselMcDonald said:

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1. Lock her up
2. Drain the Swamp
3. Repeal and replace Obamacare
and this one:

President Trump: "If I lose to [Joe Biden], I don't know what I'm going to do -- I will never speak to you again. You'll never see me again." pic.twitter.com/jQ2RRfHIyH

— The Hill (@thehill) September 19, 2020

What other campaign promises did he fail on?

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I am no Trumpster, but this list is dumb.

1. Trump is not the DOJ and was immediately hamstrung by the democrats and Jeff Sessions. Where were republicans?

2. We saw how the Swamp completely crippled him and fought him every single day. Where were republicans?

3. Trump is not Congress. Where were republicans?

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just to be clear- Trump defenders defend him by stating the Swamp was simply too powerful and stopped him.

and yet will lie about anything and anyone

to put the same guy who COULDN'T GET THE JOB DONE OVER FOUR YEARS back to try it again.

nothing says "let's rehire the same guy who failed the first time!!" more than the Cultists.

Yes he's the first president who couldn't keep campaign promises what dumb thread

AggieVictor10 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Phatbob said:

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Republicans just need to wake up to the fact that Trump cannot give you what you want. He doesn't have the skills, the temperament, the principles, or the electoral capacity to accomplish the things you want him to do.

Instead of the typical "Now do Biden" response... do some critical thinking about who the right person is to do the job. Sometimes we like to cling to things we love that are outdated and can't accomplish the tasks properly, but this isn't the kind of thing we can afford to do.

We need to replace Biden... BADLY. We have the evidence we need to know that Trump CANNOT DO THAT.

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Great points, but maga is all about the feelz Trump gives them. They've got no use for stupid things like critical thinking, evidence, skills, temperament, principles, or any other such nonsense. Those things don't give them the feelz. They need the mean tweets and 24/7 assault on anything not maga, including Republicans in office that don't sweat fealty to him.

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So it seems like the only ones who don't vote with feelz are desantis supporters?

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Most Desantis supporters waited to see if he was more than just anti covid lockdown. Once he continued racking up real legislative win after win, they saw he was more action than words and jumped on his bandwagon. And once he pulled in tons of dems to help him win by crazy numbers, the rest were all in.

Their feelz are only there because he provided them real things to warrant them. Things that will last after he's out of office.

aggie93 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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I am no Trumpster, but this list is dumb.

1. Trump is not the DOJ and was immediately hamstrung by the democrats and Jeff Sessions. Where were republicans?

2. We saw how the Swamp completely crippled him and fought him every single day. Where were republicans?

3. Trump is not Congress. Where were republicans?

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To be clear, you think that "The Republicans" are to blame and not Trump who was President and was actually in charge of the entire Executive Branch. You also don't think he is responsible for his own appointment in Sessions?

Amazing.

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To be clear, Trump being opposed by Congress is a poor reflection on Congress.

What did Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell do for any of these situations? Why do republican Congresses always oppose the will of the people?

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So, then what good will come from getting Trump back in the WH if he'll have even less support than last time, and he couldn't get this done with the support he had then?

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Where have I advocated for Trump to get back in the WH?

Im Gipper said:

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Trump is not the DOJ and was immediately hamstrung by the democrats and Jeff Sessions. Where were republicans?

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Explain how Sessions hamstrung Trump on the "lock her up" issue please.

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Comey did it. No one else did anything to lock her up. But Trump is not a law enforcement official or the DOJ. And unlike the current administration, Trump did not use the DOJ/FBI as his own personal army.