State GOP Level Dysfunction

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TRM
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Trouble in NV, MI, AZ, PA, WI.

What do we need to do organize at the state level and get things turned around? Seems like the National Chair should get involved to help them get on the right path, but she's MIA.

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https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/shareholders-allege-fraud-in-suit-where-this-gop-official-is-named-2802653/
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Clark County Republican Party Chairman Jesse Law is embroiled in a lawsuit as a member of a company's board of directors accused of defrauding shareholders and furthering their own self-interests.

Three shareholders of Vinco Ventures, a digital media, advertising and content technologies company, filed an initial lawsuit in April in the Clark County 8th Judicial District Court against the Vinco board of directors, the former chief executive officer and its secretary.

They allege the board of directors' loyalty lies with its former CEO, Theodore Farnsworth, who faces federal fraud charges stemming from a separate business, and as a result have worked to further his interests rather than the shareholders'.
AggieVictor10
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Dems cheat in every election but only one is called "election denial. "
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

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Lol,lmao
Decay
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The GOP is a mess. A mix of spineless political creatures and gung ho zealots. Shame we can't figure out how to lock everything up like the commies do.
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Waffledynamics
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Nah GOP just needs to keep on the strategy that's lost 3 consecutive election cycles. Maybe a 4th or 5th and a continuation of radical progressive rule would be fine.

Or just select DeSantis.
BTKAG97
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BTKAG97
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Someone feel free to photoshop the state names on the characters above.
Old May Banker
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The republican party cannot heal or be unified when the defacto leader for upwards of half of it is "hitting down" at everyone with any different ideas.

Real leadership there, huh....
Actual Talking Thermos
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Decay said:

The GOP is a mess. A mix of spineless political creatures and gung ho zealots. Shame we can't figure out how to lock everything up like the commies do.
Spoken like a person who has never been in a room with a handful of actual leftists in their life. Like actual self-described leftists who sincerely try to be good leftists. Not democrats, not liberals, leftists. Radicals. Any time those people try to organize anything bigger than a kombucha-brewing collective it devolves into everyone purging each other via an endless succession of ever more restrictive ideological purity tests.
Tea Party
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Decay said:

The GOP is a mess. A mix of spineless political creatures and gung ho zealots. Shame we can't figure out how to lock everything up like the commies do.
I'd rather my politicians not go in lock step in their two party system.

Politicians should vary among a spectrum rather than simply being rubber stamps for their team like the D's do. As much as I despise the R's, I at least respect that they can gripe amongst themselves. The D's have zero respect from me because it is win at all costs for them, which is incredibly anti-American.

We may as well quit trying to share a country with the D's if you are advocating for the mirror equivalent of the D's by being lock step for GOP regardless of principles.
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Jock 07
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Came to read about drunk dade destroying the TX GOP, left disappointed.
agz win
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The GOP remains filled with a cancerous death spiral so long as donald's lemmings run off the cliffs in support of their JFK. The result is likely the loss of the house, senate and the presidency in 2024 unless there's a come to Jesus moment in the GOP to re-unify and push to a younger generation of nominees and kick the 70 plus year olds to the curb.
ShaggySLC
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agz win said:

The GOP remains filled with a cancerous death spiral so long as donald's lemmings run off the cliffs in support of their JFK. The result is likely the loss of the house, senate and the presidency in 2024 unless there's a come to Jesus moment in the GOP to re-unify and push to a younger generation of nominees and kick the 70 plus year olds to the curb.
Donald's lemmings voting for a JFK is your hate filled fantasy world. Keep lying ol boy.
agz win
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Michael Protzman died.

Triggered and uninformed is not a good look.
ShaggySLC
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Googled Michael Protzman, glad you know who he is. Donald's lemmings aren't voting for JFKjr
The Banned
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Seems like there is a governor from a large state who did a good job of organizing the GOP into a machine. Maybe they should ask him how he did it
Funky Winkerbean
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Don't blame the parties, blame the crooks already in government. We are not the problem.
ts5641
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I'm starting to agree with those never Trumpers back in 2019 who predicted Trump will be the worst thing to ever happen to the GOP. He is a poison we can't get rid of.
ts5641
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Decay said:

The GOP is a mess. A mix of spineless political creatures and gung ho zealots. Shame we can't figure out how to lock everything up like the commies do.
Except for hardcore communists and leftists, people don't want to vote liberal. But the GOP is such a **** show that we don't provided a good enough alternative.
dmart90
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Don't blame the parties, blame the crooks already in government. We are not the problem.

No, we the voters are the problem. A handful of people run the county parties very few people bother to participate (guilty). We, the voters, do not demand better candidates. A tiny portion of registered voters actually bother to vote in the primaries - usually those voters have an agenda. So we end up with generally terrible candidates running against generally terrible candidates in the general.
Old May Banker
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You ain't wrong
ShaggySLC
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dmart90 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

Don't blame the parties, blame the crooks already in government. We are not the problem.

No, we the voters are the problem. A handful of people run the county parties very few people bother to participate (guilty). We, the voters, do not demand better candidates. A tiny portion of registered voters actually bother to vote in the primaries - usually those voters have an agenda. So we end up with generally terrible candidates running against generally terrible candidates in the general.


And has been that way for a long time.
Grapesoda2525
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Michigan GOP has been in a downward spiral since the flint water crisis. Gretchen whitmer has been dunking on them ever since.
TRM
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Waffledynamics
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TRM said:


Under DeSantis, the Democrats were basically routed entirely out of Florida.

Astounding that this man isn't revered across the GOP. Trump fans would salivate at that kind of victory and the seething that would happen if they could achieve it.
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Actual Talking Thermos said:

Decay said:

The GOP is a mess. A mix of spineless political creatures and gung ho zealots. Shame we can't figure out how to lock everything up like the commies do.
Spoken like a person who has never been in a room with a handful of actual leftists in their life. Like actual self-described leftists who sincerely try to be good leftists. Not democrats, not liberals, leftists. Radicals. Any time those people try to organize anything bigger than a kombucha-brewing collective it devolves into everyone purging each other via an endless succession of ever more restrictive ideological purity tests.
TexAgs91
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Must be good to be a Dem and have so many people help spread your lies.
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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dmart90 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

Don't blame the parties, blame the crooks already in government. We are not the problem.

No, we the voters are the problem. A handful of people run the county parties very few people bother to participate (guilty). We, the voters, do not demand better candidates. A tiny portion of registered voters actually bother to vote in the primaries - usually those voters have an agenda. So we end up with generally terrible candidates running against generally terrible candidates in the general.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
TRM
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On the menu today: The seemingly frozen-in-amber GOP presidential primary is getting most of the attention and headlines, but under the radar, in at least a quartet of key states, the state Republican parties are collapsing going broke and devolving into infighting little fiefdoms. Even worse for the GOP, these aren't just any states Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, and Minnesota all rank as either key swing states or once-purple states that would be tantalizing targets in a good year.
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In Arizona:

The Arizona Republican Party picked a bad time to run out of money.

There are two competitive House seats on the line as Republicans are looking to defend their slim majority in the lower chamber next year. Not to mention, Arizona is going to be a major swing state in the 2024 presidential election.

But the state GOP has just over $23,000 in cash on hand in its federal account, according to federal filings, and roughly $144,000 according to their [second-quarter] state filing. That pales in comparison to state parties in places like Wisconsin and Ohio, where both had more than $1 million in cash on hand at the end of the most recent quarter.


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Also in Colorado:

Stolen election conspiracist Dave Williams, the new state chairman, has announced the Colorado Republican State Central Committee (CRC) will vote on August 5 on whether to cancel the 2024 Republican primary election. And to accomplish this act of political suicide, they want to make a change in the committee's voting rules that would make the old Soviet Politburo proud.

Voters passed Proposition 108 in 2016 which allows unaffiliated voters to vote in the primary election of their choice.

Unaffiliated voters receive both parties' primary ballots in the mail and they can choose one. Voting in both primaries nullifies both ballots.
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In Minnesota:

Recent filings with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) reveal that Minnesota's Republican Party is financially struggling, with barely $54 cash on hand. Additionally, the state GOP has more than $335,000 in debt, according to the FEC paperwork filed in late June.

In Michigan:

At least four county parties in Michigan have been at open war with themselves, with members suing one another or putting forward competing slates that claim to be in charge. The night before an April state party meeting, two GOP officials got into a physical altercation in a hotel bar over an attempt to expel members. The state party's new chairwoman, Kristina Karamo, has struggled to raise money and abandoned the party's longtime headquarters.

Also in Michigan:

The Michigan Republican Party has about $93,000 in its bank accounts 16 months before the November 2024 presidential election, a revelation GOP insiders said paints an alarming financial picture for a political party that had full control of state government five years ago.
FJB
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Re: post above.

The open primary voting allows for weak GOP candidates to be selected by "unaffiliated" voters.

I see nothing wrong with wanting to limit a party's candidates to being selected by its membership and that's coming from someone who has zero political affiliation.
Who is John Galt?

2026
Rapier108
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In other words, MAGA is cancer on the GOP and this country.

And MAGA has every intention of finishing it off in 2024 because they have to give their god king one last victory in the primary.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Drahknor03
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Trump has nothing to do with AZ or CO. I can't speak for the other two.

Colorado's Governor basically did there what DeSantis did in FL.

In AZ, McCain drove the base into reactionary insanity long before Trump ever got into the picture.

State Parties need strong top-down leadership that works with the base. Look how long it took the VA GOP to bounce back after Jack Smith took out McDonald. You think this is bad? Give it a few cycles and Texas is going to be there too. And it will have nothing to do with Trump.
Rapier108
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Colorado got overwhelmed with California transplants.

Arizona one can say Trump had some part in it. You had the MAGA clowns spending the last 2.5 years trying to overturn two different election results. You have the McCain cabal, which still have massive control over the GOP, especially in Maricopa County, who have a visceral hatred of Trump. Many of them openly supported the Democrat candidates in 2020 and 2022 because of Trump.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Drahknor03
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Pick 1:

Colorado got overwhelmed by liberal California transplants and Florida got overwhelmed by conservative Blue State transplants.

OR:

Colorado and Florida both have incredibly shrewd governors that read the state spot on and consolidated an iron grip on the state parties.


Arizona cannot be blamed on Trump. The party hasn't been crazy for 2.5 years, it has been crazy since about 2012. I had a courtside seat from 2011-2017. There, Trump is just a symptom of the infighting between the McCainiacs and the Conservative base.
TRM
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CO GOP is going to be evicted from their building. The leadership is non-existent.

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