Shocker: Locking Down the Country did more harm than good...

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LMCane
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Meantime, the lockdowns did have other significant effects on health.

Rates of smoking, drinking, and obesity increased.

The number of excess deaths from non-Covid causes in the U.S. rose by nearly 100,000 annually due to extra deaths from stroke, heart attack, diabetes, obesity, drug overdoses, alcohol-induced causes, homicide, and traffic accidents.

Many of these excess deaths, which occurred disproportionately among working-age adults, were presumably related to the lockdowns' disruptions in people's lives and in medical treatments. The delays in screening for heart disease and cancer will continue to have a deadly impact in the years ahead.

So will the economic and social consequences of the lockdowns, which showed up clearly in the Paragon Health Institute comparison of states' performance. The researchers found that states with the more stringent pandemic restrictions had worse declines in economic output and higher rates of unemployment, and that children in those states lost more days of in-person schooling.

These disruptions contributed to a substantial increase in domestic migration, the Paragon researchers found, as people escaped from the more restrictive states and moved to states with less stringent policies.

The lockdowns were the most radical experiment in the history of public health, implemented without evidence that they would work. (In fact, before Covid, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and other nations' health agencies had specifically advised against lockdowns in their plans for dealing with a pandemic.)

The experiment was promoted by computer modelers who projected that 2 million Americans would die by the end of the summer in 2020 unless governments mandated lockdowns, which they estimated would reduce mortality by 80 percent or more. Both estimates turned out to be absurdly wrongand so was the modelers' assumption that government mandates were the only way to change people's behavior.

Self-Inflicted Problems from the Government Lockdowns
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good discussion on excess mortality
MouthBQ98
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That doesn't even touch the economic damage that causes increased net suffering versus premature deaths.
Smittyfubar
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Gee. Who would of thought?
Stupe
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Not a single sentence in there about the other huge increase in cause of death: Suicide.
LMCane
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Stupe said:

Not a single sentence in there about the other huge increase in cause of death: Suicide.
definitely that has been statistically proven that there were many more suicides as a result of the lockdowns and inability to be around other humans.

I can confidently predict that the high school seniors graduating over the next 4 years will be amongst the stupidest and least educated in US history.

some states literally took students out of the classroom for a total of two years! 2 out of only a total of 12 years of education!
Stupe
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Even in states that didn't mandate school shutdowns for two years, there were school districts that did total shut down for 20-21.

You are correct about the kids that did a year or more at home because of being forced.

College Station went back to in person in the fall of 2020, but gave the option for online or hybrid. Less than 10% of the students chose that option. There was no way my kids were going to be at home instead of school.
They chose the best teachers that they had to run those programs and the strain of that caused a lot of them to leave public teaching.

CSISD School Board, aside from one Covid disciple, voted to end that nonsense after one year.

Both of my kids said that most of the kids that did the hybrid were way behind. Kids that had been in Honors, Pre-AP, or AP classes prior to choosing that option dropped the advanced classes after the first six weeks. Not all of them, but enough that they considered combining classes and changing schedules.


Power hungry people using kids as pawns.

RoadkillBBQ
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Covid harmed the world politically, economically and socially more than any other event in history.
It will have lingering effects for generations and shape history moving forward.
ts5641
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Saw a woman in a restaurant yesterday with a mask on. She would scoop a bite, remove her mask enough to take the bite, and put her mask back on when chewing, in 2023. .
The response to covid has completely broken some people.
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ts5641 said:

Saw a woman in a restaurant yesterday with a mask on. She would scoop a bite, remove her mask enough to take the bite, and put her mask back on when chewing, in 2023. .
The response to covid has completely broken some people.
I went on a cruise and came back with Covid.

It was a head cold. I was a little more tired than usual - probably jet lag and catching up on sleep from the travel.
waitwhat?
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RoadkillBBQ said:

The irrational response to Covid harmed the world politically, economically and socially more than any other event in history.
It will have lingering effects for generations and shape history moving forward.



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RoadkillBBQ said:

Covid harmed the world politically, economically and socially more than any other event in history.
It will have lingering effects for generations and shape history moving forward.



NIH and EcoHealth decision makers and funders should be on trial for crimes against humanity for their part in funding the Wuhan gain of function experiments. China should be pistol whipped for shutting down regional travel, but allowing internationals to continue.
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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MouthBQ98 said:

That doesn't even touch the economic damage that causes increased net suffering versus premature deaths.
That was a feature of the plan, not a bug.
JamesE4
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Kellso said:

LMCane said:

Meantime, the lockdowns did have other significant effects on health.

Rates of smoking, drinking, and obesity increased.

The number of excess deaths from non-Covid causes in the U.S. rose by nearly 100,000 annually due to extra deaths from stroke, heart attack, diabetes, obesity, drug overdoses, alcohol-induced causes, homicide, and traffic accidents.

Many of these excess deaths, which occurred disproportionately among working-age adults, were presumably related to the lockdowns' disruptions in people's lives and in medical treatments. The delays in screening for heart disease and cancer will continue to have a deadly impact in the years ahead.

So will the economic and social consequences of the lockdowns, which showed up clearly in the Paragon Health Institute comparison of states' performance. The researchers found that states with the more stringent pandemic restrictions had worse declines in economic output and higher rates of unemployment, and that children in those states lost more days of in-person schooling.

These disruptions contributed to a substantial increase in domestic migration, the Paragon researchers found, as people escaped from the more restrictive states and moved to states with less stringent policies.

The lockdowns were the most radical experiment in the history of public health, implemented without evidence that they would work. (In fact, before Covid, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and other nations' health agencies had specifically advised against lockdowns in their plans for dealing with a pandemic.)

The experiment was promoted by computer modelers who projected that 2 million Americans would die by the end of the summer in 2020 unless governments mandated lockdowns, which they estimated would reduce mortality by 80 percent or more. Both estimates turned out to be absurdly wrongand so was the modelers' assumption that government mandates were the only way to change people's behavior.

Self-Inflicted Problems from the Government Lockdowns
You should have been running things. Im certain that you had better protocols and Pandemic experience than the experts.
It s called common sense
TAMU1990
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Kellso said:

LMCane said:

Meantime, the lockdowns did have other significant effects on health.

Rates of smoking, drinking, and obesity increased.

The number of excess deaths from non-Covid causes in the U.S. rose by nearly 100,000 annually due to extra deaths from stroke, heart attack, diabetes, obesity, drug overdoses, alcohol-induced causes, homicide, and traffic accidents.

Many of these excess deaths, which occurred disproportionately among working-age adults, were presumably related to the lockdowns' disruptions in people's lives and in medical treatments. The delays in screening for heart disease and cancer will continue to have a deadly impact in the years ahead.

So will the economic and social consequences of the lockdowns, which showed up clearly in the Paragon Health Institute comparison of states' performance. The researchers found that states with the more stringent pandemic restrictions had worse declines in economic output and higher rates of unemployment, and that children in those states lost more days of in-person schooling.

These disruptions contributed to a substantial increase in domestic migration, the Paragon researchers found, as people escaped from the more restrictive states and moved to states with less stringent policies.

The lockdowns were the most radical experiment in the history of public health, implemented without evidence that they would work. (In fact, before Covid, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and other nations' health agencies had specifically advised against lockdowns in their plans for dealing with a pandemic.)

The experiment was promoted by computer modelers who projected that 2 million Americans would die by the end of the summer in 2020 unless governments mandated lockdowns, which they estimated would reduce mortality by 80 percent or more. Both estimates turned out to be absurdly wrongand so was the modelers' assumption that government mandates were the only way to change people's behavior.

Self-Inflicted Problems from the Government Lockdowns
You should have been running things. Im certain that you had better protocols and Pandemic experience than the experts.


The experts failed - that's the point. They all deserved to be fired, and some to be put in jail.
waitwhat?
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Kellso said:

LMCane said:

Meantime, the lockdowns did have other significant effects on health.

Rates of smoking, drinking, and obesity increased.

The number of excess deaths from non-Covid causes in the U.S. rose by nearly 100,000 annually due to extra deaths from stroke, heart attack, diabetes, obesity, drug overdoses, alcohol-induced causes, homicide, and traffic accidents.

Many of these excess deaths, which occurred disproportionately among working-age adults, were presumably related to the lockdowns' disruptions in people's lives and in medical treatments. The delays in screening for heart disease and cancer will continue to have a deadly impact in the years ahead.

So will the economic and social consequences of the lockdowns, which showed up clearly in the Paragon Health Institute comparison of states' performance. The researchers found that states with the more stringent pandemic restrictions had worse declines in economic output and higher rates of unemployment, and that children in those states lost more days of in-person schooling.

These disruptions contributed to a substantial increase in domestic migration, the Paragon researchers found, as people escaped from the more restrictive states and moved to states with less stringent policies.

The lockdowns were the most radical experiment in the history of public health, implemented without evidence that they would work. (In fact, before Covid, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and other nations' health agencies had specifically advised against lockdowns in their plans for dealing with a pandemic.)

The experiment was promoted by computer modelers who projected that 2 million Americans would die by the end of the summer in 2020 unless governments mandated lockdowns, which they estimated would reduce mortality by 80 percent or more. Both estimates turned out to be absurdly wrongand so was the modelers' assumption that government mandates were the only way to change people's behavior.

Self-Inflicted Problems from the Government Lockdowns
You should have been running things. Im certain that you had better protocols and Pandemic experience than the experts.


You actually believe the "experts" did all this because they genuinely believed it was right, and not to increase their personal wealth and power?

Bless your heart.
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Big Tech IS the empire of lies

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rw1987
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Anybody good have done a better job at managing this than this bunch who were either driven either by incompetency or self interest.
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Stupe said:

Not a single sentence in there about the other huge increase in cause of death: Suicide.
lost my brother to this during covid, couldn't even have a funeral for him.

never again.
MouthBQ98
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The wrong experts were apparently in charge. Many experts dissented and objected to the official policies but were suppressed and smeared for their efforts. The experts selling themselves as the solutions turned out to be charlatans operating in self service off of intuition instead of with wisdom.
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Kellso said:


You should have been running things. Im certain that you had better protocols and Pandemic experience than the experts.
Crowds at sporting events: BAD! SUPER SPREADER!
Riots: No big deal. Y'all go ahead and scream, yell, and spit. No issues here.

Funeral for Grandma, Grandpa, Mom, Dad: BAD! SUPER SPREADER!!!!!
Funeral for a felon: Politicians and large funeral is ok.

Yes, I could have had better protocols. It's called "If you are sick, stay home".

But that doesn't make money or gain control.

Stupe
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As far as that Fauci. My kid's pediatrician said from the outset that he should have been fired a long time ago. He also said the he would do anything to stay relevant as long as he could.

That was in April of 2020.
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In a just world there would be tribunals for these local officials.
What you say, Paper Champion? I'm gonna beat you like a dog, a dog, you hear me!
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Hindsight is always better than foresight.
By 2020 we knew for certain that COVID -19 was 99%+ survivable. At this point Biden should have shutdown the shutdown.

YouBet
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Based on computer models. Just like climate fear porn.

We've entered an age where science has been openly, politically weaponized and can't be trusted.

Just awesome.
Kellso
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TAMU1990 said:

Kellso said:

LMCane said:

Meantime, the lockdowns did have other significant effects on health.

Rates of smoking, drinking, and obesity increased.

The number of excess deaths from non-Covid causes in the U.S. rose by nearly 100,000 annually due to extra deaths from stroke, heart attack, diabetes, obesity, drug overdoses, alcohol-induced causes, homicide, and traffic accidents.

Many of these excess deaths, which occurred disproportionately among working-age adults, were presumably related to the lockdowns' disruptions in people's lives and in medical treatments. The delays in screening for heart disease and cancer will continue to have a deadly impact in the years ahead.

So will the economic and social consequences of the lockdowns, which showed up clearly in the Paragon Health Institute comparison of states' performance. The researchers found that states with the more stringent pandemic restrictions had worse declines in economic output and higher rates of unemployment, and that children in those states lost more days of in-person schooling.

These disruptions contributed to a substantial increase in domestic migration, the Paragon researchers found, as people escaped from the more restrictive states and moved to states with less stringent policies.

The lockdowns were the most radical experiment in the history of public health, implemented without evidence that they would work. (In fact, before Covid, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and other nations' health agencies had specifically advised against lockdowns in their plans for dealing with a pandemic.)

The experiment was promoted by computer modelers who projected that 2 million Americans would die by the end of the summer in 2020 unless governments mandated lockdowns, which they estimated would reduce mortality by 80 percent or more. Both estimates turned out to be absurdly wrongand so was the modelers' assumption that government mandates were the only way to change people's behavior.

Self-Inflicted Problems from the Government Lockdowns
You should have been running things. Im certain that you had better protocols and Pandemic experience than the experts.


The experts failed - that's the point. They all deserved to be fired, and some to be put in jail.
Who should we have listened to?
How often do pandemics happen?

Who would have experience in dealing with a pandemic?
agracer
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Kellso said:

LMCane said:

Meantime, the lockdowns did have other significant effects on health.

Rates of smoking, drinking, and obesity increased.

The number of excess deaths from non-Covid causes in the U.S. rose by nearly 100,000 annually due to extra deaths from stroke, heart attack, diabetes, obesity, drug overdoses, alcohol-induced causes, homicide, and traffic accidents.

Many of these excess deaths, which occurred disproportionately among working-age adults, were presumably related to the lockdowns' disruptions in people's lives and in medical treatments. The delays in screening for heart disease and cancer will continue to have a deadly impact in the years ahead.

So will the economic and social consequences of the lockdowns, which showed up clearly in the Paragon Health Institute comparison of states' performance. The researchers found that states with the more stringent pandemic restrictions had worse declines in economic output and higher rates of unemployment, and that children in those states lost more days of in-person schooling.

These disruptions contributed to a substantial increase in domestic migration, the Paragon researchers found, as people escaped from the more restrictive states and moved to states with less stringent policies.

The lockdowns were the most radical experiment in the history of public health, implemented without evidence that they would work. (In fact, before Covid, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and other nations' health agencies had specifically advised against lockdowns in their plans for dealing with a pandemic.)

The experiment was promoted by computer modelers who projected that 2 million Americans would die by the end of the summer in 2020 unless governments mandated lockdowns, which they estimated would reduce mortality by 80 percent or more. Both estimates turned out to be absurdly wrongand so was the modelers' assumption that government mandates were the only way to change people's behavior.

Self-Inflicted Problems from the Government Lockdowns
You should have been running things. Im certain that you had better protocols and Pandemic experience than the experts.
Did you miss this part or were you too busy with your 'gocha' moment?

(In fact, before Covid, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and other nations' health agencies had specifically advised against lockdowns in their plans for dealing with a pandemic.)

The "experts" had a plan and ignored it completely. So yes, the rest of us could have done a better job.
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JamesE4 said:

Kellso said:

LMCane said:

Meantime, the lockdowns did have other significant effects on health.

Rates of smoking, drinking, and obesity increased.

The number of excess deaths from non-Covid causes in the U.S. rose by nearly 100,000 annually due to extra deaths from stroke, heart attack, diabetes, obesity, drug overdoses, alcohol-induced causes, homicide, and traffic accidents.

Many of these excess deaths, which occurred disproportionately among working-age adults, were presumably related to the lockdowns' disruptions in people's lives and in medical treatments. The delays in screening for heart disease and cancer will continue to have a deadly impact in the years ahead.

So will the economic and social consequences of the lockdowns, which showed up clearly in the Paragon Health Institute comparison of states' performance. The researchers found that states with the more stringent pandemic restrictions had worse declines in economic output and higher rates of unemployment, and that children in those states lost more days of in-person schooling.

These disruptions contributed to a substantial increase in domestic migration, the Paragon researchers found, as people escaped from the more restrictive states and moved to states with less stringent policies.

The lockdowns were the most radical experiment in the history of public health, implemented without evidence that they would work. (In fact, before Covid, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and other nations' health agencies had specifically advised against lockdowns in their plans for dealing with a pandemic.)

The experiment was promoted by computer modelers who projected that 2 million Americans would die by the end of the summer in 2020 unless governments mandated lockdowns, which they estimated would reduce mortality by 80 percent or more. Both estimates turned out to be absurdly wrongand so was the modelers' assumption that government mandates were the only way to change people's behavior.

Self-Inflicted Problems from the Government Lockdowns
You should have been running things. Im certain that you had better protocols and Pandemic experience than the experts.
It s called common sense
Which is sadly uncommon these days. Modern politics mandate that we pander to the lowest common denominator, which means we had to pull the plug on the entire country to pacify the people who were convinced they were going to die from COVID (if global warming didn't get them first). These are the same people you still see wearing masks today.
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It became so political as well, I had a lot of people I thought were friends on the left stop talking to me. I will consider that a win if the government so easily manipulated them and they fell for it. Had a lot of fights with my then wife now ex about it as well. Come to think about it I was right about everything since I looked at facts and not feel good stories
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Kellso said:

TAMU1990 said:

Kellso said:

LMCane said:

Meantime, the lockdowns did have other significant effects on health.

Rates of smoking, drinking, and obesity increased.

The number of excess deaths from non-Covid causes in the U.S. rose by nearly 100,000 annually due to extra deaths from stroke, heart attack, diabetes, obesity, drug overdoses, alcohol-induced causes, homicide, and traffic accidents.

Many of these excess deaths, which occurred disproportionately among working-age adults, were presumably related to the lockdowns' disruptions in people's lives and in medical treatments. The delays in screening for heart disease and cancer will continue to have a deadly impact in the years ahead.

So will the economic and social consequences of the lockdowns, which showed up clearly in the Paragon Health Institute comparison of states' performance. The researchers found that states with the more stringent pandemic restrictions had worse declines in economic output and higher rates of unemployment, and that children in those states lost more days of in-person schooling.

These disruptions contributed to a substantial increase in domestic migration, the Paragon researchers found, as people escaped from the more restrictive states and moved to states with less stringent policies.

The lockdowns were the most radical experiment in the history of public health, implemented without evidence that they would work. (In fact, before Covid, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and other nations' health agencies had specifically advised against lockdowns in their plans for dealing with a pandemic.)

The experiment was promoted by computer modelers who projected that 2 million Americans would die by the end of the summer in 2020 unless governments mandated lockdowns, which they estimated would reduce mortality by 80 percent or more. Both estimates turned out to be absurdly wrongand so was the modelers' assumption that government mandates were the only way to change people's behavior.

Self-Inflicted Problems from the Government Lockdowns
You should have been running things. Im certain that you had better protocols and Pandemic experience than the experts.


The experts failed - that's the point. They all deserved to be fired, and some to be put in jail.
Who should we have listened to?
How often do pandemics happen?

Who would have experience in dealing with a pandemic?
basic common sense? The then-in-place WHO protocol for pandemic (isolate truly vulnerable and otherwise carry on with life)?

The "experts" made knee jerk decisions based on emotions and quickly realized that the finger wagging Karens and beta-ninnies (I.e. you) were more than happy to enable them to exercise whatever power they wanted.

And you understand that "expert" means "person with credentials that lawyers/politicians pay money to say whatever they want" right?
TheCurl84
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Yes but, Walensky's eyebrows!!
Rapier108
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As I said in March 2020 (partly taken from a former professor of mine) that in US history there were two events which left such a deep, psychological scar on the nation that it did not heal until almost everyone who experienced it had passed away.

The first was the Civil War.

The second was the Great Depression.

I said the third would be the response to the virus because we were going insane about it and if it continued for more than than a month or two, it would create long term, lasting damage that would take 70-100 years to completely heal from.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Kellso said:

TAMU1990 said:

Kellso said:

LMCane said:

Meantime, the lockdowns did have other significant effects on health.

Rates of smoking, drinking, and obesity increased.

The number of excess deaths from non-Covid causes in the U.S. rose by nearly 100,000 annually due to extra deaths from stroke, heart attack, diabetes, obesity, drug overdoses, alcohol-induced causes, homicide, and traffic accidents.

Many of these excess deaths, which occurred disproportionately among working-age adults, were presumably related to the lockdowns' disruptions in people's lives and in medical treatments. The delays in screening for heart disease and cancer will continue to have a deadly impact in the years ahead.

So will the economic and social consequences of the lockdowns, which showed up clearly in the Paragon Health Institute comparison of states' performance. The researchers found that states with the more stringent pandemic restrictions had worse declines in economic output and higher rates of unemployment, and that children in those states lost more days of in-person schooling.

These disruptions contributed to a substantial increase in domestic migration, the Paragon researchers found, as people escaped from the more restrictive states and moved to states with less stringent policies.

The lockdowns were the most radical experiment in the history of public health, implemented without evidence that they would work. (In fact, before Covid, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and other nations' health agencies had specifically advised against lockdowns in their plans for dealing with a pandemic.)

The experiment was promoted by computer modelers who projected that 2 million Americans would die by the end of the summer in 2020 unless governments mandated lockdowns, which they estimated would reduce mortality by 80 percent or more. Both estimates turned out to be absurdly wrongand so was the modelers' assumption that government mandates were the only way to change people's behavior.

Self-Inflicted Problems from the Government Lockdowns
You should have been running things. Im certain that you had better protocols and Pandemic experience than the experts.


The experts failed - that's the point. They all deserved to be fired, and some to be put in jail.
Who should we have listened to?
How often do pandemics happen?

Who would have experience in dealing with a pandemic?
We could have started with listening to the countless doctors that were championing Ivermectin as a safe alternative
We could have started with listening to the facts that were KNOWN in March of 2020
  • The virus escaped from the Wuhan Lab
  • The US was funding the research in the Lab
  • Fauci knew it came from lab, covered it up
  • Only people with comorbidities were dying
  • Children were NOT at risk
  • Masks were not effective
  • ...

PLEASE stop with the "OH MY, HOW COULD WE HAVE KNOWN"... It is intellectually dishonest at best, criminal at worst
Logos Stick
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I'd like someone to explain this to me. That red line is current deaths. The black line is the average from 2015-2019.

We have way too many excess deaths now - about 5k per week - and most are not COVID. The red line should have fallen back closer to the black line by now yet it remains much higher.


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Shooter McGavin said:

ts5641 said:

Saw a woman in a restaurant yesterday with a mask on. She would scoop a bite, remove her mask enough to take the bite, and put her mask back on when chewing, in 2023. .
The response to covid has completely broken some people.
I went on a cruise and came back with Covid.

It was a head cold. I was a little more tired than usual - probably jet lag and catching up on sleep from the travel.
I got back from a cruise two weeks ago, and while on it I saw people walking around outside in Alaska...wearing masks.

It's their choice, but man I just can't understand living like that.
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