I have mixed feelings about this, on one hand he was a murderer, on the other hand he was practically formed into one by the CIA during years of experimental torture.

He was also one of the greatest minds of the 20th century. Forget the conclusions he drew from his epiphanies, read his books for his insight, there is none more prescient on how technology impacted and will continue to impact western life.

https://apnews.com/article/ted-kaczynski-unabomber-dies-federal-prison-95fdd4f398fbfe20aaadf5d53a91dc26

RIP. I don't condone his violent actions or see eye to eye with him on everything, but he has been borderline prophetic. A very wise man.

And yes, the evil CIA did conduct warped experiments on him, and others.

Hope he found God.

Is there an address to mail condolences

Ya don't say……anyone know what was destroyed in that building?

Well in his honor I have to post the Al Gore or the Uni-Bomber quiz:

https://newcriterion.com/blogs/dispatch/a-little-quiz-the-al-and-ted-show

Really don't give a **** how great his mind was. He was a murderer!

Well, you can't eat your cake and have it, too.

NO! NO! NO!

Rot in hell, mother-****er.

When did he interact with the cia?

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Really don't give a **** how great his mind was. He was a murderer!

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Not defending this guy. I have not read any of his stuff, but I will point out that so was King David and Paul aka Saul the apostle killer. Murderer to redemption stories are good.

This guy probably falls under this version though: They say Mohamed was a reasonable guy, until he wasn't .

jt2hunt said:

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When did he interact with the cia?

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I believe they conducted experiments on him when he was at Harvard?

C@LAg said:

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Zarathustra said:

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Well, you can't eat your cake and have it, too.

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you have to have your cake before you can eat it.

otherwise you cannot reach it.

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The saying means you can't eat your cake and still possess it to be used later.

Once it is consumed its gone.

From a collection of proverbs from the 16th century earliest version:

Wolde ye bothe eate your cake, and haue your cake?

Brittmoore Car Club said:

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jt2hunt said:

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When did he interact with the cia?

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I believe they conducted experiments on him when he was at Harvard?

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He was a victim of MKULTRA.

As a minor and early teen at Harvard an MK Ukyra scientist used drugs, aversion therapy, electrocution, and emotional torture to **** with his mind.

That being said, his childhood behavior exhibited antisocial and borderline sociopathy..

Whether or not he would have become a mass murderer if he had not been the victim of the CIA and MKUltra is debatable.

There are alot of highly productive psychopaths in society. Most CEO's are.

What's the backstory on the CIA torture?

Went to Harvard as a teen. Because of his age and intelligence he had no peers and was abit of a social pariah.

A psychologist at Harvard who was in the MKUltra program befriended him and convinced him to take part in the program. Then used the fact that he was Ted's only friend to manipulate him into being a test subject for torture and further isolate him from anyone who might have been a peer.

The ******* basically groomed him and could do so because of Ted's low social awareness and the fact that Ted was a vulnerable youth.

Ags4DaWin said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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jt2hunt said:

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When did he interact with the cia?

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I believe they conducted experiments on him when he was at Harvard?

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He was a victim of MKULTRA.

As a minor and early teen at Harvard an MK Ukyra scientist used drugs, aversion therapy, electrocution, and emotional torture to **** with his mind.

That being said, his childhood behavior exhibited antisocial and borderline sociopathy..

Whether or not he would have become a mass murderer if he had not been the victim of the CIA and MKUltra is debatable.

There are alot of highly productive psychopaths in society. Most CEO's are.

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I definitely agree that most big business CEO's, politicians, and Hollywood types are psychopaths. Many with hyper narcissistic personality disorder.

Ags4DaWin said:

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C@LAg said:

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Zarathustra said:

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Well, you can't eat your cake and have it, too.

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you have to have your cake before you can eat it.

otherwise you cannot reach it.

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The saying means you can't eat your cake and still possess it to be used later.

Once it is consumed its gone.

From a collection of proverbs from the 16th century earliest version:

Wolde ye bothe eate your cake, and haue your cake?

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The story goes that he was a big stickler for this phrase and would correct everyone who said it wrong. His brother contacted the CIA after reading it in his manifesto. Everyone says it backwards.

Ags4DaWin said:

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Went to Harvard as a teen. Because of his age and intelligence he had no peers and was abit of a social pariah.

A psychologist at Harvard who was in the MKUltra program befriended him and convinced him to take part in the program. Then used the fact that he was Ted's only friend to manipulate him into being a test subject for torture and further isolate him from anyone who might have been a peer.

The ******* basically groomed him and could do so because of Ted's low social awareness and the fact that Ted was a vulnerable youth.

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Gee that sounds familiar

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Now ur just being silly.

The proverb literally means you can not have your cake after you eat all of it.

Bounded harmonic functions will never be the same.

Waffledynamics said:

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The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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Life expectancy has gone up dramatically as has quality of life. Women no longer have to have 12 pregnancies in order to get a couple of children to live to adulthood. You will likely not due of something as simple as diabetes, vitamin deficiency, or pneumonia.

On the negative side- more people have been killed in wars since the revolution. Depression rates have skyrocketed as has suicide. It seems like we hate ourselves more than ever.

Double edged sword.

No surprise the OP sees Kaczynski as some kind of hero.

Greatest minds don't get caught./donald

I read there are celebratory rainbow cakes available for tax payers happy to no longer pay for the murderer's housing.

Rapier108 said:

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No surprise the OP sees Kaczynski as some kind of hero.

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No, just the Unabomber from a different perspective.

Ags4DaWin said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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Life expectancy has gone up dramatically as has quality of life. Women no longer have to have 12 pregnancies in order to get a couple of children to live to adulthood. You will likely not due of something as simple as diabetes, vitamin deficiency, or pneumonia.

On the negative side- more people have been killed in wars since the revolution. Depression rates have skyrocketed as has suicide. It seems like we hate ourselves more than ever.

Double edged sword.

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I would argue that quality of life peaked in the 80's and 90's…when had sufficient technology, but not enough to handicap us mentally or divide us.

Depression, suicide, prescription drug dependency and alcohol and hard drug addiction, as you mentioned, are at all time highs and likely will only get much worse. Young people are forgoing marriage and real relationships at alarming rates. Most people are literally addicted to their phones.

I think it could be argued that, even with its benefits, the internet was maybe the worst thing to happen to mankind. We were never going to be the same after that.

Very few children today will even get a slight taste of the happiness, freedom and adventure we experienced as 80's and 90's children. They will be slaves/addicts to technology and to their over protective fearful parents. I am hellbent on making sure this is not the case for mine.

Go watch videos of spring breakers in the 80's and 90's. Not a single technological device in sight, just people vibing together and connecting organically and nothing but smiles.

Brittmoore Car Club said:

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jt2hunt said:

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When did he interact with the cia?

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I believe they conducted experiments on him when he was at Harvard?

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He's still fully responsible for his own actions.

Situational ethics is crazy.

eric76 said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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jt2hunt said:

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When did he interact with the cia?

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I believe they conducted experiments on him when he was at Harvard?

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He's still fully responsible for his own actions.

Situational ethics is crazy.

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I agree. That's why I condemned his actions.

Did he drink bud light or shop at Target ?

Brittmoore Car Club said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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Life expectancy has gone up dramatically as has quality of life. Women no longer have to have 12 pregnancies in order to get a couple of children to live to adulthood. You will likely not due of something as simple as diabetes, vitamin deficiency, or pneumonia.

On the negative side- more people have been killed in wars since the revolution. Depression rates have skyrocketed as has suicide. It seems like we hate ourselves more than ever.

Double edged sword.

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I would argue that quality of life peaked in the 80's and 90's…when had sufficient technology, but not enough to handicap us mentally or divide us.

Depression, suicide, prescription drug dependency and alcohol and hard drug addiction, as you mentioned, are at all time highs and likely will only get much worse. Young people are forgoing marriage and real relationships at alarming rates. Most people are literally addicted to their phones.

I think it could be argued that, even with its benefits, the internet was maybe the worst thing to happen to mankind. We were never going to be the same after that.

Very few children today with even get a slight taste of the happiness, freedom and adventure we experienced as 80's and 90's children. They will be slaves/addicts to technology and to their over protective fearful parents.

Go watch videos of spring breakers in the 80's and 90's. Not a single technological device in sight, just people vibing together and connecting organically and nothing but smiles.

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Yep, it was a Golden Age looking back on it.

The internet and social media riding piggyback on that will be our downfall.