BREAKING: In a win for voters, U.S. Supreme Court issues a decision in Allen v. Milligan blocking Alabama's congressional map. The Court rules that the map violates the Voting Rights Act by diluting the voting strength of Black voters. More to come: https://t.co/wBbfGgF7Ba pic.twitter.com/NMqmfOFIxY

— Democracy Docket (@DemocracyDocket) June 8, 2023

WHOA! The Supreme Court's final decision of the day is a 5–4 ruling that AFFIRMS the Voting Rights Act's protection against racial vote dilution! Roberts and Kavanaugh join the liberals. This is a HUGE surprise and a major voting rights victory. https://t.co/qMN96f0FXr

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) June 8, 2023

The Supreme Court's surprise reaffirmation of the landmark Voting Rights Act will make it easier to remedy concerns in some states that the power of Black voters is being diluted by putting them in predominantly white districts. https://t.co/UiH41Vy00T

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 8, 2023

Big surprise from this morning.

Ag87H2O said:

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I have come to expect bad decisions like this from Roberts. It's a shame to see Kavanaugh channeling his inner Roberts and taking the same path.

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I could handle it if they were gaming the game to give the left enough minor wins to give the illusion of "balance" as they kept their eye on the prize - but it's clear that they're just squishes who believe in DC rather than her foundling's principles.

From what I understand, this ruling states that Alabama intentionally set the districts so that black voters, who encompass 26% of the state, would be massively underrepresented.

The strategy is a fairly open secret and applies to more than race at times. Still a bit of a surprise with the ruling, although Kavanaugh is known to have an independent streak.

In terms of Kavanaugh's mindset, this is pretty telling. Likely to lose him a chunk of support in certain circles.

Kavanaugh went WOKE pic.twitter.com/yVaPM2og7v

— felix (@Leftist_Kiwi) June 8, 2023

MouthBQ98 said:

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This presumes that black voters' individual political interests are and remain based upon their skin color and that they are not diverse political individuals who can effectively be represented by persons who do not look like them.

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I'm pretty sure that's exactly what the republicans who drew the lines concluded….

BassCowboy33 said:

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In terms of Kavanaugh's mindset, this is pretty telling. Likely to lose him a chunk of support in certain circles.

Kavanaugh went WOKE pic.twitter.com/yVaPM2og7v

— felix (@Leftist_Kiwi) June 8, 2023

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That was a quote from the District Court. The text posted in that tweet is from the summary, which Kavenaugh did not write.

Would encourage people to actually read the opinion. Even Alabama's own expert admitted that many of the drawn districts dilute black voters.

MouthBQ98 said:

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This presumes that black voters' individual political interests are and remain based upon their skin color

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Well said. The simple act of recognizing this premise, is racist...but that's what the ruling is based on.

I spent my entire youth being told not to see color. But it seems that (and sexual orientation) is all that's used to determine this country's path anymore.

The opinion summary quoted the District Court, who heard testimony on the numbers. Something like 92.3% of black voters tend to vote for one candidate.

Not a Bot said:

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The opinion summary quoted the District Court, who heard testimony on the numbers. Something like 92.3% of black voters tend to vote for one candidate.

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They're still free to vote for whomever they choose. Putting them in a racial box, and acting like they cannot think past skin color is racist and insulting to a large group of people.

It's similar to the discussion about voter ID, when many black voters were insulted by the insinuation they weren't capable of getting an ID.

Bad Trump

Not a Bot said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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In terms of Kavanaugh's mindset, this is pretty telling. Likely to lose him a chunk of support in certain circles.

Kavanaugh went WOKE pic.twitter.com/yVaPM2og7v

— felix (@Leftist_Kiwi) June 8, 2023

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That was a quote from the District Court. The text posted in that tweet is from the summary, which Kavenaugh did not write.

Would encourage people to actually read the opinion. Even Alabama's own expert admitted that many of the drawn districts dilute black voters.

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Who cares if it dilutes Democrat voters? Democrat's started the practice and its a good way to fight back.

MouthBQ98 said:

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This presumes that black voters' individual political interests are and remain based upon their skin color and that they are not diverse political individuals who can effectively be represented by persons who do not look like them, and should be free to make that choice without biases constructed into law.

Ie=. The law itself is racist and assumes the stereotype that all black people are the fundamentally the same and share the same political interests.

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That's been the political reality for the last 60 years.

The majority of Blacks that self identify as conservative still vote Democrat

MouthBQ98 said:

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So, racism is ok if it is the useful, patronizing and condescending type of racism?

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Black People > White People when it comes to voting and stuff in the south.

BassCowboy33 said:

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From what I understand, this ruling states that Alabama intentionally set the districts so that black voters, who encompass 26% of the state, would be massively underrepresented.

The strategy is a fairly open secret and applies to more than race at times. Still a bit of a surprise with the ruling, although Kavanaugh is known to have an independent streak.

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I have just skimmed through the summary, but I don't believe that is the holding. There is discussion about "intent vs. effect," the gist of which is that it doesn't matter what your intent is (in this case, Alabama said that its intent was to avoid splitting up the Gulf Coast, rather than to draw one less black district), if the effect is to draw less minority districts than could otherwise be drawn without getting into crazy shapes.

I don't like the ruling, but the Republicans can use it to their advantage and require packing of minorities into majority-minority districts that will make it harder for non-minority Democrats in other districts.

TexAgs91 said:

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Bad Trump

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Your TDS is showing!!!!1

twk said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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From what I understand, this ruling states that Alabama intentionally set the districts so that black voters, who encompass 26% of the state, would be massively underrepresented.

The strategy is a fairly open secret and applies to more than race at times. Still a bit of a surprise with the ruling, although Kavanaugh is known to have an independent streak.

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I have just skimmed through the summary, but I don't believe that is the holding. There is discussion about "intent vs. effect," the gist of which is that it doesn't matter what your intent is (in this case, Alabama said that its intent was to avoid splitting up the Gulf Coast, rather than to draw one less black district), if the effect is to draw less minority districts than could otherwise be drawn without getting into crazy shapes.

I don't like the ruling, but the Republicans can use it to their advantage and require packing of minorities into majority-minority districts that will make it harder for non-minority Democrats in other districts.

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Correct, The Court just voted FOR Gerrymandering.

This is NOT Gerrymandering:



Blacks constitute 26.59% of the population in Alabma which is 1.86 congressional seats out of 7.

Gerrymander the hell out of those districts so Blacks will get 1 seat and maybe a 2nd seat. Giving Blacks a guaranteed 2nd seat may be hard to do given racial population densities across the state.

District 7 is predominately Black and is the only Democrat House seat in the state. The remaining Black majority resides in Conecuh, Montgomery, Bullock, Macon, and Barbour Counties - which are ALL in District 2 which is an R+17 District. In order to make District 2 more competitive for Blacks then District 7 will have to be less competitive.

Maybe you can move Clarke and Choctaw counties from 7 into District 1 along with Conecuh county from District 2, but you're still diluting District 7.

https://bestneighborhood.org/race-in-alabama/

DenverAg91 said:

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The only discrimination that happens in redistricting happens on political lines not racial.

If black voters voted 90/10 Republican, Democrats would want to minimize the voting power of black voters and Republicans would want to give them as many districts as possible

Whether you like it or not, gerrymandering is a thing and if Democrats are going to gerrymander, we are fighting with one hand tied behind our backs if we don't do the same

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Republicans are much more vicious with the gerrymandering pen then democrats will ever be. The GOP controls way more state legislatures and is ruthless.

So Dems can't gerrymander districts that over urbanize the suburbs right, because that would dilute the white suburban vote?

Grapesoda2525 said:

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DenverAg91 said:

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The only discrimination that happens in redistricting happens on political lines not racial.

If black voters voted 90/10 Republican, Democrats would want to minimize the voting power of black voters and Republicans would want to give them as many districts as possible

Whether you like it or not, gerrymandering is a thing and if Democrats are going to gerrymander, we are fighting with one hand tied behind our backs if we don't do the same

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Republicans are much more vicious with the gerrymandering pen then democrats will ever be. The GOP controls way more state legislatures and is ruthless.

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Calling bull**** on the fabricated crap.

Grapesoda2525 said:

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DenverAg91 said:

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The only discrimination that happens in redistricting happens on political lines not racial.

If black voters voted 90/10 Republican, Democrats would want to minimize the voting power of black voters and Republicans would want to give them as many districts as possible

Whether you like it or not, gerrymandering is a thing and if Democrats are going to gerrymander, we are fighting with one hand tied behind our backs if we don't do the same

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Republicans are much more vicious with the gerrymandering pen then democrats will ever be. The GOP controls way more state legislatures and is ruthless.

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Illinois and Maryland prove otherwise. Spare me.

I wish our state government here in Alabama would grow a spine and tell the SCOTUS and the Feds to stick it.

The overwhelming majority here would support such a move.

TheEternalPessimist said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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DenverAg91 said:

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The only discrimination that happens in redistricting happens on political lines not racial.

If black voters voted 90/10 Republican, Democrats would want to minimize the voting power of black voters and Republicans would want to give them as many districts as possible

Whether you like it or not, gerrymandering is a thing and if Democrats are going to gerrymander, we are fighting with one hand tied behind our backs if we don't do the same

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Republicans are much more vicious with the gerrymandering pen then democrats will ever be. The GOP controls way more state legislatures and is ruthless.

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Illinois and Maryland prove otherwise. Spare me.

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This is fun.

What about Tennessee, Kansas, Oklahoma, Utah or Arkansas?

Everyone's favorite justice was hard at work today.

Clarence Thomas wrote damn near 50 pages of dissent to black people being able to vote. No I’m not exaggerating.

— Domo (@DapperDomo) June 8, 2023

Anybody who thinks this is gerrymandered is an idiot.