Very good interview, listening to it now. Nuke power is the future, and Oliver Stone is releasing a film showing all the fear mongering the MSM has done to kill the industry over the past 90 years.

His comments on the HBO/Sky Chernobyl show being complete "fiction" is odd. I've read a lot of books on chernobyl and it largely stuck to the real events.

Absolutely, agree and I probably don't agree with Stone on much if anything. But he is right nuke power has had the weirdest bad pr campaign. I wonder if it is one of those where there are both groups on the left and right who are against it.

I know some environmental types are all for it. I think people don't realize how safe it can be. They think Chernobyl without realizing what a cluster the ussr and russia are when it comes to safety and quality.

I am all for increased nuclear power and domestic oil production. Whatever frees us from having to deal with the rats nest that is the middle east, I am interested in.

I think the biggest complaint with it was that they boiled down the decisions of entire organizations of people and scientists into individual characters for plot purposes. So it made certain people seem very stupid or way too decisive, when the reality was they were dealing with a giant bureaucracy of people with individual opinions.

I think Chernobyl is some of the best TV in the past 10 years, but it definitely doesn't leave a great feeling in your stomach about nuclear after watching it.

It was fictionalized for dramatic purposes but the story is generally correct. You can't be reckless with nuclear power, but properly managed it it pretty safe and relatively clean.

Oliver should focus on how safe the new designs are. There are certain Thorium and Salt reactors that are physically incapable of creating an environmental disaster. If broken down it would be inert component materials that could be found at a typical hardware store. If there are real people that want power and a clean environment, then nuclear is the answer. Modern enviro-whackos mostly just hate humanity and want most of us to be culled, "for the sake of Gaia Earth". It's just old fashioned nature worship.

Chernobyl is a great series, but it's mostly about the folly of the communist state than any anti-nuclear message. Dude needs to pick his battles.

To be clear, the Chernobyl thing was a one off comment, mostly to emphasize how the modern culture portrays nuclear as something to fear. He has spent the majority of the podcast so far making the arguments you are saying.

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It was fictionalized for dramatic purposes but the story is generally correct. You can't be reckless with nuclear power, but properly managed it it pretty safe and relatively clean.

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In a world that is merit based, where we hire the best and brightest, I am absolutely 110% PRO nuclear. But in a world where you have to fill racial quotas and hire a certain % of mentally ill people who want to chop their peckers off or have their breasts removed, I am not so sure we shouldn't just stick to what we have been doing.

I think the issue with nuclear power is that too many special interest groups benefit from its failure. Oil & Gas industry doesn't want nuclear to succeed because it cuts their profits. "Green" energy doesn't want it to succeed because you can't get rich off nuclear subsidies like you can with wind and solar.

Without lobbyists with deep pockets that can pay off politicians, nuclear power is stuck in the mud.

Agreed. The one thing I think that is changing is Gates is in on it now.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/bill-gates-future-nuclear-energy-ai/story?id=99160110

It takes so long for it to scale to be profitable, you almost need a type like Gates or Musk behind it.

In an ideal world, in 50 years Musk has solved all battery storage issues and Gates has solved the nuclear scaling issue. When those two things happen, we are ready for space faring civilizations.

Good episode and worth a listen.

Concept of standardized power stations that take up the same amount of space as a walmart was interesting. Crazy that we are spending so much on solar and wind. Seems like a drop in the bucket.

What scares me about nuclear is the people in charge. Biden put in mentally ill man in charge of nuclear waste.

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Very good interview, listening to it now. Nuke power is the future, and Oliver Stone is releasing a film showing all the fear mongering the MSM has done to kill the industry over the past 90 years.

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If you believe in global warming then the Chernobyl incident was the single biggest event to contribute to global warming in human history.

The funny (sad) thing is I bet all those "environmentalists" that killed nuclear 40 years ago in their 20's are now the same clowns in their 60's promoting global warming and the green new deals.

We've been operating Nuclear powered submarines since the 1960's without incident.

The Pepsi Syndrome !!!

The Three Mile Island accident in 1979 just furthered the fear that was being driven by anti-nuke media.

The movies "The China Syndrome" and "Silkwood" and the No Nukes concerts/album effort with Jackson Browne and Musicians United for Safe Energy were all very powerful influences.

Without that one-sided messaging, we would likely have far more nuclear power here in the U.S.

He's gonna get Obamacided...


Destroy the earth by digging up lithium or gtfo!!!!

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This.

F nuclear until we start purging absolute psychos from the upper echelons of government and industry.

Does he discuss the fear mongering of fossil fuels and global warming?

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His comments on the HBO/Sky Chernobyl show being complete "fiction" is odd. I've read a lot of books on chernobyl and it largely stuck to the real events.

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I've read about all I can on Chernobyl and TMI (and most other major nuclear incidents). Chernobyl was the result of absolute stupidity and hubris, along with the secretive nature of the USSR covering up a catastrophic design flaw. I could see the same thing if China becomes a big user of nuclear. TMI was the result of poor training, slow warnings, and poor design - and even then, did not result in a large release.

Nuclear can be done safely and it should be.

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The Three Mile Island accident in 1979 just furthered the fear that was being driven by anti-nuke media.

The movies "The China Syndrome" and "Silkwood" and the No Nukes concerts/album effort with Jackson Browne and Musicians United for Safe Energy were all very powerful influences.

Without that one-sided messaging, we would likely have far more nuclear power here in the U.S.

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You would think The Simpsons would do a better job of selling it to people as well.

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It was fictionalized for dramatic purposes but the story is generally correct. You can't be reckless with nuclear power, but properly managed it it pretty safe and relatively clean.

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In a world that is merit based, where we hire the best and brightest, I am absolutely 110% PRO nuclear. But in a world where you have to fill racial quotas and hire a certain % of mentally ill people who want to chop their peckers off or have their breasts removed, I am not so sure we shouldn't just stick to what we have been doing.

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The word "we" is used a lot in this thread. Do any of you guys in favor of nuclear actually deal with or are familiar with what's involved in plant safety? I'm a chemical plant manager and I agree with the post above. We are not getting better and more competent as a society. The people are just not there. Look at our colleges. I know very little about nuclear specifically, but I have no faith in our ability to manage very complex systems. There' more than enough nat gas out there for energy. No need to put ourselves at risk with nuclear. Have you guys forgotten about Sam Brinton already?

I do want to listen to Rogan, maybe I'm off on how safe this can be.

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It was fictionalized for dramatic purposes but the story is generally correct. You can't be reckless with nuclear power, but properly managed it it pretty safe and relatively clean.

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In a world that is merit based, where we hire the best and brightest, I am absolutely 110% PRO nuclear. But in a world where you have to fill racial quotas and hire a certain % of mentally ill people who want to chop their peckers off or have their breasts removed, I am not so sure we shouldn't just stick to what we have been doing.

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The word "we" is used a lot in this thread. Do any of you guys in favor of nuclear actually deal with or are familiar with what's involved in plant safety? I'm a chemical plant manager and I agree with the post above. We are not getting better and more competent as a society. The people are just not there. Look at our colleges. I know very little about nuclear specifically, but I have no faith in our ability to manage very complex systems. There' more than enough nat gas out there for energy. No need to put ourselves at risk with nuclear. Have you guys forgotten about Sam Brinton already?

I do want to listen to Rogan, maybe I'm off on how safe this can be.

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I agree wholeheartedly.

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F nuclear until we start purging absolute psychos from the upper echelons of government and industry.

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This is a silly comment. The waste problem is largely overstated.

You missed the point completely.

He was a good movie director type for a while, and while I agree with his conclusion in this I do think it's sort of interesting/sad to see him try to take on a cause at his age. He just sounds/looks like a tired old man past his sell by date. Nothing as demented/out of it as President ****s his pants, but still probably not the best 'salesman for this cause.'

JR could have had/gotten a much better guest, imho.

has the US Navy nuke program been totally compromised by DEI as well or are they practically shutting it down? those guys used to be among the most well respected in the field.

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You missed the point completely.

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I got the point. It was a terrible one.

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It was fictionalized for dramatic purposes but the story is generally correct. You can't be reckless with nuclear power, but properly managed it it pretty safe and relatively clean.

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In a world that is merit based, where we hire the best and brightest, I am absolutely 110% PRO nuclear. But in a world where you have to fill racial quotas and hire a certain % of mentally ill people who want to chop their peckers off or have their breasts removed, I am not so sure we shouldn't just stick to what we have been doing.

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The word "we" is used a lot in this thread. Do any of you guys in favor of nuclear actually deal with or are familiar with what's involved in plant safety? I'm a chemical plant manager and I agree with the post above. We are not getting better and more competent as a society. The people are just not there. Look at our colleges. I know very little about nuclear specifically, but I have no faith in our ability to manage very complex systems. There' more than enough nat gas out there for energy. No need to put ourselves at risk with nuclear. Have you guys forgotten about Sam Brinton already?

I do want to listen to Rogan, maybe I'm off on how safe this can be.

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The new plant designs (by new, we are talking about designs made in the past 20-40 years) are much safer than anything that was designed in first and second Gen plants. Thorium reactors were actually conceived at the same time as the uranium ones, they just don't generate weapons grade nuclear materials, so they weren't emphasized in the 40's when the concepts were being put into effect. They can also reuse waste, and generate medical grade isotopes from the reactions as a byproduct for drugs used in cancer meds, for example.

I'm sure there will be accidents with nuclear eventually, especially at scale. It will pale in comparison to the amount of injuries and damage to the planet that other sources of energy provide. We have enough thorium in the us alone to power the entire world (replacing any use of fossil fuel or other energy source, including vehicles) for the next 90 years, assuming no other breakthroughs in technology.

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You missed the point completely.

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I got the point. It was a terrible one.

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You need to sit down and think about it a little more.

All of the nuclear waste used by the US in all of history fits inside one Walmart. The main issue with waste is making sure it doesn't leak eventually, but it's not like it's this massive problem we have to worry about like is constantly portrayed in the media. It's a problem that has so many safeguards it's almost impossible to deliberately abuse.

That being said, Biden's an idiot and his pick was even more so. I doubt that person had any involvement with anything actually pertaining to nuclear waste, other than wearing radioactive underwear.

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It was fictionalized for dramatic purposes but the story is generally correct. You can't be reckless with nuclear power, but properly managed it it pretty safe and relatively clean.

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In a world that is merit based, where we hire the best and brightest, I am absolutely 110% PRO nuclear. But in a world where you have to fill racial quotas and hire a certain % of mentally ill people who want to chop their peckers off or have their breasts removed, I am not so sure we shouldn't just stick to what we have been doing.

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Case in point

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All of the nuclear waste used by the US in all of history fits inside one Walmart. The main issue with waste is making sure it doesn't leak eventually, but it's not like it's this massive problem we have to worry about like is constantly portrayed in the media. It's a problem that has so many safeguards it's almost impossible to deliberately abuse.

Biden's an idiot and his pick was even more so.

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Yes. And it can be reprocessed. Most of it probably will be, at some point. I'm skeptical whoever is running this country/its successor(s) for the centuries to come will be as absolutely moronic as the current ****tards are.

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It was fictionalized for dramatic purposes but the story is generally correct. You can't be reckless with nuclear power, but properly managed it it pretty safe and relatively clean.

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In a world that is merit based, where we hire the best and brightest, I am absolutely 110% PRO nuclear. But in a world where you have to fill racial quotas and hire a certain % of mentally ill people who want to chop their peckers off or have their breasts removed, I am not so sure we shouldn't just stick to what we have been doing.

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Case in point

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Just fyi, tying some of our idiots together in leadership/media today, he was an officer in the anti-catholic hate group 'sisters of perpetual indulgence.'

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It was fictionalized for dramatic purposes but the story is generally correct. You can't be reckless with nuclear power, but properly managed it it pretty safe and relatively clean.

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In a world that is merit based, where we hire the best and brightest, I am absolutely 110% PRO nuclear. But in a world where you have to fill racial quotas and hire a certain % of mentally ill people who want to chop their peckers off or have their breasts removed, I am not so sure we shouldn't just stick to what we have been doing.

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To be fair, that freak was qualified for the job and knew their stuff. It wasn't like it was a pure diversity pick. And as someone said, it's doubtful that clown had a lot of input on day to day storage.