Why do leftists lift up the enemies of the US?

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BenFiasco14
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This is more of a philosophical discussion, I suppose, but in my observations, the Democrat party and then most American leftists are always cozying up with Americas enemies, or crying foul for any sort of retribution the US wants to give out to the same. Modern examples:

Vietnam. Obvious - see Jane Fonda and the entire anti war hippie movement. I understand there are legitimate criticisms to be leveled at the war, but that's different than outright supporting communist Vietnam like Fonda did. That's not dissent, that's treason.

Middle East in general - complete embrace of radical Islam in its entirety by American and European leftists, despite the fact that Islamist ideology is sharply different from "progressives" in the West. The only similarity is a shared hatred of the West as a concept. Progressives want to bring as many of these people in as possible.

China - the left just refuses to discuss this at all but is the first ones to start clamoring against beefing up our holdings in the Pacific or revisiting Japanese disarmament.

Mexico - complete endorsement of open borders and allowing the open flow of illegal immigration from Mexico and everywhere else south of the border, completely ignoring the real life implications of this and shifting any sort of criticism to "racism".

What is the end game for these leftists who are so willing to present their necks to the altar of progressivism?

I could go on, but this seems to be a pattern at least since post WWII. Us has not been aligned on foreign policy ever since it seems like.
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Gordo14
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Leftists definitely have done that over our history, no argument here. But then you see how many on "Republicans" support Russia and Putin and you realize it's just an edgy thing low IQ people do regardless of their ideology.
Old Sarge
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Their hatred of the United States and the basis on which upon it is so excellent compared to the rest of the world, whether they woke up with it, or it was instilled into them, trumps all. They'd set their families and what is hard to grasp, themselves, down the river to implement it's demise.

Proc92
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Probably because they've been groomed by marxists enemies of the country since the early 20th century. They played the long game.
Bryanisbest
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Because leftists and our enemies have a common goal: destroy America.
UTExan
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"A revolution is not a tea party"
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TexasAggiesWin
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My opinion, many leftists approach things/decisions solely based upon feelings. If they can make everyone 'happy', then everything in the world will be perfect. In reality, there is absolutely no way in the world to make everyone happy. For better or worse, there are winners and losers in life. I really believe that many lefties believe they can make everyone winners which, unfortunately, is not reality.

Further clarification: Many lefties feel bad when everyone doesn't win. Particularly when our enemies aren't winning. It is like they have to go over the top (over and above) to make others feel better about themselves.
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Gordo14 said:

Leftists definitely have done that over our history, no argument here. But then you see how many on "Republicans" support Russia and Putin and you realize it's just an edgy thing low IQ people do regardless of their ideology.


Exactly right.
M1Buckeye
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Gordo14 said:

Leftists definitely have done that over our history, no argument here. But then you see how many on "Republicans" support Russia and Putin and you realize it's just an edgy thing low IQ people do regardless of their ideology.


Do you believe that Republicans support Putin and Russia?
M1Buckeye
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The American left used to be anti-war, now they love it.
M1Buckeye
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To a great extent it's spiritual. We live in a world of deception and leftists are the most deceived. The apostle Paul wrote about leftists being fools.

Ecclesiastes 10 1
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
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Gordo14 said:

Leftists definitely have done that over our history, no argument here. But then you see how many on "Republicans" support Russia and Putin and you realize it's just an edgy thing low IQ people do regardless of their ideology.
Except the modern left hates the US and is always willing to defend its enemies. They see this country as nothing but land stolen from others by the evil white man, and then built completely on black slavery. They believe this country, its founding, and its very existence is immoral and it is a stain on history.

We saw it right after 9/11. The left rushed to defend Islam and declared anyone who saw Islam as the problem to be a bigot.

The left was always less antithetical to the Soviet Union, many openly supported or praised it during the Cold War. Heck, even before the Cold War, there was a huge number of socialists and communists in the US in the 1920s, so many that the US Military created "War Plan White" as the response to an expected communist insurrection.

Many on the left love China, especially their control of citizens the "social credit score."

The so called "Republicans" who support Russian/Putin is very small. Most of them are nothing but far right totalitarians or theocratic totalitarians (we have a few here like that) who love complete state control as much as the left does, as long as they are the ones who get to wield the power. They are not conservatives and never were because actual conservatives want as little government as possible, not something akin to Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia with just the "correct" political and religious positions.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Aggie_Brad
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I think the left aristocrats think the Global World Order will live as one big happy family.
Owlagdad
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Add to all the above : Many leftists are lonely, miserable people with illusions of grandeur and when things don't go their way, they will do anything for attention, even negative attention. Therefore they use the shock effect of embracing a Castro, Mao etc as a weapon against those who don't bow to their wishes. Very much like a kid throwing a fit or a jilted lover joking the French Foreign Legion- "I'll show you!"
doubledog
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Because in the Legists warped minds, the Conservatives are the real enemies and to destroy them they need outside intervention.
TexAgs91
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Bryanisbest said:

Because leftists and our enemies have a common goal: destroy America.
ts5641
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Because they hate freedom and Western civilization and the US is the beacon of hope for those.
DogHouse95
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You mean like Putin or Kim Jong Un? Please….
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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Because leftists hate America and want nothing more than to remake it in their image of debauchery and tyranny.

To hell with every last leftist in this country.
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Gordo14 said:

Leftists definitely have done that over our history, no argument here. But then you see how many on "Republicans" support Russia and Putin and you realize it's just an edgy thing low IQ people do regardless of their ideology.


Republicans do not support Russia and Putin
Win At Life
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OP narrative is true more than not, but Nixon opened the door to China and Trump had a weird fascination with that sleazy Putin.
BD88
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Cause they too are enemies! What do i win?
Definitely Not A Cop
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There are some loony civilians in the GOP who support Putin and Russia.

The Democratic Party has been paying off the Russian government for years, from nuclear materials to colluding with their intelligence operatives to spy on the rights political candidates. In terms of "propping up" it's not even close.

LegalDrugPusher
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Win At Life said:

OP narrative is true more than not, but Nixon opened the door to China and Trump had a weird fascination with that sleazy Putin.


What was his fascination? The fascination kept us out of war and giving Ukraine unlimited checks
halfastros81
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The answer is within the question grasshopper.
Love Gun
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The answer: Barack Hussein Obama.

This is ALL his doing. Systematically destroy America.

He set this country back YEARS, despite being a 'progressive', during his eight years in office.

And he's continuing to do it through Biden today. That man is no friend of America.
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What is the end game for these leftists who are so willing to present their necks to the altar of progressivism?
Most useless idiots don't have an end goal. It's all about temporary popularity for short term material gain.
Jugstore Cowboy
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

There are some loony civilians in the GOP who support Putin and Russia.

The Democratic Party has been paying off the Russian government for years, from nuclear materials to colluding with their intelligence operatives to spy on the rights political candidates. In terms of "propping up" it's not even close.
Definitely not a cop.
Maroon Dawn
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The Democratic Party does not represent America, her people or their interests

It represents the interests of Foreign countries, businesses and citizens in America and always puts them first because they are who funds the Democratic Party
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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Add Iran to the list. Dems have been pretty friendly with them under Obama and now Biden.

It's sad that Americans these days can't even agree on who our enemies are.
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TexasAggiesWin said:

My opinion, many leftists approach things/decisions solely based upon feelings. If they can make everyone 'happy', then everything in the world will be perfect. In reality, there is absolutely no way in the world to make everyone happy. For better or worse, there are winners and losers in life. I really believe that many lefties believe they can make everyone winners which, unfortunately, is not reality.

Further clarification: Many lefties feel bad when everyone doesn't win. Particularly when our enemies aren't winning. It is like they have to go over the top (over and above) to make others feel better about themselves.
The underlying premise here that drives this is also the same fundamental misunderstanding they have of economics. Resources are limited. Thus, you are always going to have trade-offs: good and bad.

Most do not grasp this because they have zero understanding of economics. The true believer Marxists simply think you can ignore that reality and create a world around it. Which is obviously delusional until we create a unicorn technology that alters this reality.

Above is the basis for the original leftist movement(s).

In America, now add in liberalism taken to an extreme and you have an ideology that is not only based on a false premise (unlimited resources) but has been injected with extreme liberalism that is beginning to exceed moral and ethical boundaries. And this is why we are now in a culture war.

When this combined ideology is your basis, then even having to think through trade-offs of any sort becomes irrelevant. Their starting premise ignores Economics 101 - scarcity.

So, back to the OP, why would they care about the tradeoff of simultaneously supporting radIslam who is extremely anti-LGBTQ to the point of murdering them?
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TexasAggiesWin said:

My opinion, many leftists approach things/decisions solely based upon feelings. If they can make everyone 'happy', then everything in the world will be perfect. In reality, there is absolutely no way in the world to make everyone happy. For better or worse, there are winners and losers in life. I really believe that many lefties believe they can make everyone winners which, unfortunately, is not reality.

Further clarification: Many lefties feel bad when everyone doesn't win. Particularly when our enemies aren't winning. It is like they have to go over the top (over and above) to make others feel better about themselves.
I know people and family like this. They believe utopia is achievable when reality has proved it impossible.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
TRADUCTOR
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Makes easier for progressives to identify the enemy when silent conservatives pop their head up and remind others what is right and good.
bmks270
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

They hate America and it's foundational values.
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M1Buckeye said:

Gordo14 said:

Leftists definitely have done that over our history, no argument here. But then you see how many on "Republicans" support Russia and Putin and you realize it's just an edgy thing low IQ people do regardless of their ideology.


Do you believe that Republicans support Putin and Russia?


If you don't see Russia as purely evil and diabolical in every way and Ukraine as holiest of holies and 100% good, you're basically a right wing nazi domestic terrorist.

Ukraine is not a "good" country. Neither is Russia. We should not be risking anything over their beef.
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