I'll disagree with you there. Civilization almost always gets worse after a revolution like that.

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pagerman @ work said:

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The man knows his audience in this country. The Putin fappers will be along shortly.

It is fascinating to watch the man who is responsible for much of the divide in this country lecture this country on that very divide.

Also, I am having trouble remembering what part of "family values" includes having your political enemies (meaning people that dare disagree with you) killed.

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I know its hard for smooth brains to understand, but its possible to agree with some of the things he says and not agree with some of his actions. Its also possible to want the Ukraine to win and NOT have us spend any more of our middle class money on it when we are 30T in debt.

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Yep that where I'm at. Putin is a snake. But so is the Biden admin. The garden is filling with snakes

mmm... I think Biden has killed a few civilians as well. He didn't need to send an army, he just uses drones.. when it becomes public our media buries it.

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Oh shocking that the OP loves Putin and thinks he's some kind of defender of morality and goodness.

Totalitarians gotta stick together.

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You hate billboard Chris too? You hate Putin so much you can't say he's right about the evils of the sexualization of children and the gender craziness sweeping the west?

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I think it's a bait and switch. Putin speaks the truth about the West because he knows the emotional leftist will reject everything he says because he said it. The left will label any conservative a Putin apologist for saying "normal" things because he or she sounds like Putin and therefore causing more division.

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Zergling Rush said:

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Yup. Maybe we should all be turning those weapons on the people forcing this war.

Q: What would world be if we decided to kill Biden, Putin and Zelensky this afternoon?
A: a lot more peaceful.

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Only one of those three sent an army to kill civilians...

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Fact check: false. All 3 did, and do.

The moment of repeated shelling of the HIMARS MLRS at the Research Institute in Donetsk, at that moment journalists were working there pic.twitter.com/XAVJiAlwLt

— Spriter (@Spriter99880) May 26, 2023

War is always ugly, and Ukraine didn't berth the first pure and noble army on God's earth to change that.

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On just about every major social issue many of us are way closer to Putin than the gender butchers that make up our ruling class.

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Yup. So is a large part of this world.

The leaders of the West are spiritually broken (not just govt but the private corporate structure too). I don't think there is much debate about that. It's pretty clear to see.

If there was ever a sheep thread, this is it. This was a good read with my coffee. Hilarious!

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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I'll disagree with you there. Civilization almost always gets worse after a revolution like that.

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I'm ok with trying something new. The results can't be much worse than these idiots leading us into WW3.

nortex97 said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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Yup. Maybe we should all be turning those weapons on the people forcing this war.

Q: What would world be if we decided to kill Biden, Putin and Zelensky this afternoon?
A: a lot more peaceful.

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Only one of those three sent an army to kill civilians...

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Fact check: false. All 3 did, and do.

The moment of repeated shelling of the HIMARS MLRS at the Research Institute in Donetsk, at that moment journalists were working there pic.twitter.com/XAVJiAlwLt

— Spriter (@Spriter99880) May 26, 2023

War is always ugly, and Ukraine didn't berth the first pure and noble army on God's earth to change that.

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Yeah, you're right. Collateral damage from shelling your opponent is the exact same thing as invading a country without provocation, murdering its people in the streets, and launching artillery and cruise missiles at its residential areas in a campaign of terrorism to push capitulation. Ukraine and Russia are on completely equal footing here. How could I be so blind?

There sure has been a lot of 'collateral damage' in the last 20 years.

Everything you believe about why Russia invaded and how the war has gone has been told to you by the same ruling class and media apparatus that lie to you shamelessly and constantly about pretty much everything else.

Don't shoot the messenger. I too wish we had a media and government that we could trust on these things. But we don't.

Kyiv still stands after a year, I don't need anyone to tell me that means the war is going poorly for Russia.

Russia invaded its neighbor, I don't need anyone to tell me why that was bad.

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There sure has been a lot of 'collateral damage' in the last 20 years.

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Only one of these countries has sought to subvert the other's political pieces, repeatedly violated the other's sovereign borders, and trained and funded dissidents to operate there. Russia has been doing the exact same thing in Ukraine that they have done elsewhere over the last twenty years, not the other way around.

You're basically saying the kid getting picked on is at fault because they choose to fight back.

What if Russia didn't want to take Kiev? (this may come as a shock to you but that's what they've said along....Kiev was never the objective).

This is all about the Donbass, which, according to a Vice documentary from 2007 (its still on YouTube), like 95% of the people living there WANTED to be part of Russia and in fact, it was the Ukrainian military that was shelling them...

this history stuff is messy.

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Torching both the West, and Communist/Marxist Russia. Billboard Chris is a tireless defender of children against groomers and the Canadian government who supports them. Nice to see him post this video as well, please watch the whole video

Putin just scorched the west. pic.twitter.com/I2iwcoGSy0

— Billboard Chris 🇨🇦🇺🇸 (@BillboardChris) May 25, 2023

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Has this been verified? I find it strange that Putin would would take so much time to comment on social/cultural change in the West and sounding like Tucker Carlson. Seems to me a leftist deepfake to me to tie white supremacist, MAGA conservatives to Putin.

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What if Russia didn't want to take Kiev? (this may come as a shock to you but that's what they've said along....Kiev was never the objective).

This is all about the Donbass, which, according to a Vice documentary from 2007 (its still on YouTube), like 95% of the people living there WANTED to be part of Russia and in fact, it was the Ukrainian military that was shelling them...

this history stuff is messy.

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Putin didn't want Kiev. It wAs jUsT a fEinT

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Dies Irae said:

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Torching both the West, and Communist/Marxist Russia. Billboard Chris is a tireless defender of children against groomers and the Canadian government who supports them. Nice to see him post this video as well, please watch the whole video

Putin just scorched the west. pic.twitter.com/I2iwcoGSy0

— Billboard Chris 🇨🇦🇺🇸 (@BillboardChris) May 25, 2023

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Has this been verified? I find it strange that Putin would would take so much time to comment on social/cultural change in the West and sounding like Tucker Carlson. Seems to me a leftist deepfake to me to tie white supremacist, MAGA conservatives to Putin.

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Why not. Russia has been yanking on cracks in American Society for 10 years now. Putin blames the US and the West for the Soviet break-up. Which is funny because he correctly accuses the left of killing the Western world but doesn't knowledge the damage they did to Mother Russia.

Lets be honest America and the West are horribly divided. If I am China, Iran, and Russia I'm going to grab a crowbar and start prying on the cracks. They view it as a cold war and we are vulnerable.

Expect to see more of this

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What if Russia didn't want to take Kiev? (this may come as a shock to you but that's what they've said along....Kiev was never the objective).

This is all about the Donbass, which, according to a Vice documentary from 2007 (its still on YouTube), like 95% of the people living there WANTED to be part of Russia and in fact, it was the Ukrainian military that was shelling them...

this history stuff is messy.

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If it's all about Donbas then why has Russia constitutionally annexed roughly 25% of Ukraine, the majority of which being well outside the Donbas region?

If you think that this is all about Donbas then you're not paying attention to what Russia has been saying for the last 15 months or to what they've been doing.

Zergling Rush said:

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Yup. Maybe we should all be turning those weapons on the people forcing this war.

Q: What would world be if we decided to kill Putin this afternoon?
A: a lot more peaceful.

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Fify. Only one of those three is currently invading their neighbor.

Zarathustra said:

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There sure has been a lot of 'collateral damage' in the last 20 years.

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Yep. And let's not forget about Blackhawk Down and all the other stuff like a powdered milk factory, Noble Anvil ("merciful angel"), etc. under Slick Willy before that.

I mean, we couldn't be allowed to focus on a stain on a blue dress…or other 'inconvenient facts' such as GCF's role in selling out L3/ICBM guidance secrets to the CCP.

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What if Russia didn't want to take Kiev? (this may come as a shock to you but that's what they've said along....Kiev was never the objective).

This is all about the Donbass, which, according to a Vice documentary from 2007 (its still on YouTube), like 95% of the people living there WANTED to be part of Russia and in fact, it was the Ukrainian military that was shelling them...

this history stuff is messy.

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They most certainly did want to take Kiev. That's why they attacked with so much equipment from the north and tried to take the Hostomel airport. They had planes in the air and ready to land there, but the VDV that landed there to secure it got their **** pushed in by Ukrainian counterattacks and lost it. Then their forces in the north got bogged down and became easy targets stuck on roads, do the pulled back whatever they could to consolidate in the East and South.

If this was all about the Donbass, then Russia seems to have invaded all the wrong places. The Donbass is more Russian than the rest of Ukraine, but they weren't 95% separatists by any means. Most of that movement was being pushed by Moscow through their support of Victor Yanukovych who was influential in the Donbass because he was one of the few oligarchs who took over after privatization when the Soviet Union fell.

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Zergling Rush said:

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Yup. Maybe we should all be turning those weapons on the people forcing this war.

Q: What would world be if we decided to kill Putin this afternoon?
A: a lot more peaceful.

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Fify. Only one of those three is currently invading their neighbor.

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Honest question, how do you see Russia/Russia's government responding to Putin dying (even if just peacefully in his sleep)?

I think there is a good chance his successor is much more beligerent/dangerous. Medvedev? Prigozhin? And again, those guys/their pals are the ones who have paid the Bidens millions of $$$.

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Lets be honest America and the West are horribly divided. If I am China, Iran, and Russia I'm going to grab a crowbar and start prying on the cracks. They view it as a cold war and we are vulnerable.

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Exactly. So, why deliver a Tucker Carlson speech?

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samurai_science said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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The man knows his audience in this country. The Putin fappers will be along shortly.

It is fascinating to watch the man who is responsible for much of the divide in this country lecture this country on that very divide.

Also, I am having trouble remembering what part of "family values" includes having your political enemies (meaning people that dare disagree with you) killed.

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I know its hard for smooth brains to understand, but its possible to agree with some of the things he says and not agree with some of his actions. Its also possible to want the Ukraine to win and NOT have us spend any more of our middle class money on it when we are 30T in debt.

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Yep that where I'm at. Putin is a snake. But so is the Biden admin. The garden is filling with snakes

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Correct, and apparently this thread is filled with some smooth brains who can't see things from multiple perspectives.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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Yup. Maybe we should all be turning those weapons on the people forcing this war.

Q: What would world be if we decided to kill Putin this afternoon?
A: a lot more peaceful.

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Fify. Only one of those three is currently invading their neighbor.

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Maybe so. But the other two are completely corrupt.

I know you won't answer these questions but I'm curious.

1) Would you allow Joe Biden alone with your children overnight?
2) Would you allow Joe Biden and Ukrainian Jesus to manage your family's finances?
3) Do you think Biden and Zelensky actively deceive and/or lie to the world?
4) Do you think Biden or Zelensky have enriched their bank accounts via this conflict?
5) Do you follow the Aggie Code of Honor? (just in case you need a reminder.....An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate those who do.). Or do you just apply it when convenient to your support your world view?

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Lets be honest America and the West are horribly divided. If I am China, Iran, and Russia I'm going to grab a crowbar and start prying on the cracks. They view it as a cold war and we are vulnerable.

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Exactly. So, why deliver a Tucker Carlson speech?

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We may have different ideas of what constitutes a "Tucker Carlson" speech. Putin acts like he is on the side of Traditional America. And, yes your point regarding the MSM and the DemoRats using this as an excuse to link the right with Russia is a legit concern.

As was said up thread you can agree with Putin's "words" in this one speech and KNOW, in the long game, he is playing US. He is no friend of any group within the US. He wants us broken. He shares that goal with the demoRat leftest in this country.

Its a three or four sided conflict. Welcome to the new age.

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There sure has been a lot of 'collateral damage' in the last 20 years.

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Only one of these countries has sought to subvert the other's political pieces, repeatedly violated the other's sovereign borders, and trained and funded dissidents to operate there. Russia has been doing the exact same thing in Ukraine that they have done elsewhere over the last twenty years, not the other way around.

You're basically saying the kid getting picked on is at fault because they choose to fight back.

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Iraq and Libya say HI

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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Yup. Maybe we should all be turning those weapons on the people forcing this war.

Q: What would world be if we decided to kill Putin this afternoon?
A: a lot more peaceful.

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Fify. Only one of those three is currently invading their neighbor.

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Honest question, how do you see Russia/Russia's government responding to Putin dying (even if just peacefully in his sleep)?

I think there is a good chance his successor is much more beligerent/dangerous. Medvedev? Prigozhin? And again, those guys/their pals are the ones who have paid the Bidens millions of $$$.

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I have no idea (admittedly should have said "could" instead of "would"). Was just pointing out how asinine it is to try and imply Biden or Zelenskyy were the same as taking out a murdering dictator who started the war that's currently happening.

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I will watch nothing that satan's spawn has to say.

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He's less evil than Biden and Democrats.

For real.

Zergling Rush said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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Yup. Maybe we should all be turning those weapons on the people forcing this war.

Q: What would world be if we decided to kill Putin this afternoon?
A: a lot more peaceful.

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Fify. Only one of those three is currently invading their neighbor.

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Maybe so. But the other two are completely corrupt.

I know you won't answer these questions but I'm curious.

1) Would you allow Joe Biden alone with your children overnight?
2) Would you allow Joe Biden and Ukrainian Jesus to manage your family's finances?
3) Do you think Biden and Zelensky actively deceive and/or lie to the world?
4) Do you think Biden or Zelensky have enriched their bank accounts via this conflict?
5) Do you follow the Aggie Code of Honor? (just in case you need a reminder.....An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate those who do.). Or do you just apply it when convenient to your support your world view?

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Holy strawman Batman. But sure, I'll take a shot at your thread derailing questions.

1. Of course not. I would never let strangers watch my kids overnight.
2. Of course not. As far as I know neither any kind of financial advisor.
3. Sure, they are politicians. That's what they do. Zelenskyy is at least doing it to try and save his country.
4. I have no idea, but so far there's no actual evidence of this.
5. Where does taking the side of a murdering dictator fit on the Aggie code of honor for you?

Perhaps Putin is the Anti-Christ?

It's people like you is the reason we are in the predicament we are now.

Being disingenuous isn't a good trait for anyone. Let's not kid ourselves, deep down inside you know Biden is a complete piece of ***** Most likely a pedophile and corrupt as the day is long. It's obvious to anyone who has half a brain.

Yet, you'd rather run cover for evil than confront it, because confronting it will destroy your world view.


As far as "takin the side of a murdering dictator" goes, Evil is Evil. The man is ordering the death of his citizens and those of another country for political reasons. Same could be said of Biden and Zelensky. I don't tolerate any of it. IMO, good people should reject all three of them and the evil war policies they promote.

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Perhaps Putin is the Anti-Christ?

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The Anti-Christ has to be someone the Jews would at first believe to be The Christ.

He would have to also be seen as a man of peace, something Putin definitely is not.

Would the war even be a war if the US didn't stick their noses in it?

How long would it have lasted?

I'm not saying Putin should have done it. He's a bad bad man, ok? I want to clarify befor you go jumping off a cliff again.

Valid questions.