DESANTIS on deactivating ‘Students for Justice in Palestine’ student groups:
— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) October 27, 2023
“They don’t just stand in solidarity with Hamas,” they admit publicly “that they are part of what Hamas is doing. That is material support to terrorism and that is not going to be tolerated.” pic.twitter.com/EHBcxxFN0H
First and foremost, we will put the American people first.
— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) October 27, 2023
We cannot succumb to Wilsonian distractions.
We cannot expend the people’s treasure — much less spill our citizens blood — with murky missions or misguided agendas.
We will have a clear-eyed, no nonsense approach to… pic.twitter.com/xEX7qTQoCP
If after an hour a tweet has 350 likes and only 10k views, it isn't going to count as "big". Unless you are fan boying.aggie93 said:
Big foreign policy speech by DeSantis this morning. He clarified to anyone talking about a free speech issue with the student groups he shut down. They were not shut down for speech, they were shut down for coordinating with terrorists.DESANTIS on deactivating ‘Students for Justice in Palestine’ student groups:
— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) October 27, 2023
“They don’t just stand in solidarity with Hamas,” they admit publicly “that they are part of what Hamas is doing. That is material support to terrorism and that is not going to be tolerated.” pic.twitter.com/EHBcxxFN0H
NEW: Unveiling his foreign policy agenda, @RonDeSantis proposes Four Oceans Navy:
— Carly Atchison (@CarlyAtch) October 27, 2023
- 355 ships by the end of first term
- 385 by end of second term
- 600 ships in 20 years
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LMAOBD88 said:aggie93 said:Well I guess you are in good shape then. Of course this is a state by state race and Iowa and NH are about organization more than anything. Polls always shift after those 2.BD88 said:aggie93 said:Ok you sold me. Trump is better than Biden.BD88 said:NEW: Joe Rogan says the United States was “without a doubt” better off under Donald Trump, says he sees nuclear war as a possibility for the first time in his life.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) October 27, 2023
Americans are finally waking up but unfortunately it took global war for people to figure it out.
“Right now I'm… pic.twitter.com/eD9LhtvIWU
Thats reaching a lot more people that any CNN broadcast.
Of course this is a race between Trump and DeSantis.
Might want to tell Ron the race has started…
Trump's all good though so nothing to worry about. I mean he said he doesn't need votes anyway.
We are watching those two states as well. Haley is making a move.
Okay so 70k views vs 800k views. Would you consider those 2 to even be in the same ballpark?TRM said:
He gets much more views from @RonDeSantis than @DeSantisWarRoom
Iowans see "bad weather" all of the time in Jan. I don't think it'll affect things much. It's pretty much a given that it'll be cold as ****. I know...because i caucused in 08, 12 and 16.LMCane said:
does bad weather on caucus day help the DeSantis forces or help the Trump forces?
Trump has a smaller hardcore fanatical base
and a larger base of those who are not even involved in politics or following the news other than "liking Trump"
As of today, only ONE Iowa poll has been released this month. Compare that to the months before. It seems odd that as we get closer to the Iowa caucus, pollsters have suddenly slowed down.
— Marcel Teloma (@marcelteloma) October 27, 2023
(FiveThirtyEight)
October - 1
September - 9
August - 9
July - 7
Look at it this way. People seeing DeSantis tweets already were likely DeSantis fans.TRM said:
So long as the message gets out to Iowans I don't care the number of views.
Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
Well Jim Jordan was the more "pure conservative". Mike Johnson was the one that could win the election. So you would be wrong.Old May Banker said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
I've noticed that's only true when the desired outcomes of the preferred candidates are achieved... otherwise everyone is a liberal, CM, RINO. Look no further than the last week in the SOTH saga.
texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
Gee did you even bother with the context here. Rogan flipping in favor of Trump. Signaling a flip in popularity among moderates. Almost like the 2024 election won't be exactly like 2020. You know, this crazy concept that stuff happens over 4 years that might cause things to change.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
If you view it as a popularity contest why in the world would we nominate the person who lost a popularity contest to Biden already?
texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
Have you not been paying attention? Rogan is not in Favor of Trump, he's just not against him. He's all over RFK. RFK =/= Trumptexagbeliever said:Gee did you even bother with the context here. Rogan flipping in favor of Trump. Signaling a flip in popularity among moderates. Almost like the 2024 election won't be exactly like 2020. You know, this crazy concept that stuff happens over 4 years that might cause things to change.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
If you view it as a popularity contest why in the world would we nominate the person who lost a popularity contest to Biden already?
Add "communist" the list of names that our resident MAGA calls anyone not backing Trump. They added that to the list during the SOTH charlie foxtrot..Old May Banker said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
I've noticed that's only true when the desired outcomes of the preferred candidates are achieved... otherwise everyone is a liberal, CM, RINO. Look no further than the last week in the SOTH saga.
You'll never get that through the heads of MAGA.Phatbob said:Have you not been paying attention? Rogan is not in Favor of Trump, he's just not against him. He's all over RFK. RFK =/= Trumptexagbeliever said:Gee did you even bother with the context here. Rogan flipping in favor of Trump. Signaling a flip in popularity among moderates. Almost like the 2024 election won't be exactly like 2020. You know, this crazy concept that stuff happens over 4 years that might cause things to change.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
If you view it as a popularity contest why in the world would we nominate the person who lost a popularity contest to Biden already?
I do not agree with the take that likeability doesn't matter. That is stupid. Likability in large urban areas in liberal states doesn't matter sure.FL_Ag1998 said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
Well, hold on a minute. When DeSantis supporters have said over and over that Trump's likeability (i.e. popularity) is way too low with non-MAGA people and the independents/moderates (you know, the people who swing elections), Trump supporters continually shot back that they don't give a damn about "likeability" and if that's what the general voter bases their vote on then they can go to hell and the nation is better breaking up.
But now popularity is more important that principles?
And yes, its no shock to anyone that Rogan gets more views than a DeSantis campaign account. The question is how much impact does each have. I honestly have no clue and don't pretend to, but I do think the impact Rogan will have on people's choice is microscopic in the grand view of things.
texagbeliever said:Gee did you even bother with the context here. Rogan flipping in favor of Trump. Signaling a flip in popularity among moderates. Almost like the 2024 election won't be exactly like 2020. You know, this crazy concept that stuff happens over 4 years that might cause things to change.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
If you view it as a popularity contest why in the world would we nominate the person who lost a popularity contest to Biden already?
Trump/MAGA candidates are now losing elections in districts that are +10 to +25 or more Republican.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Gee did you even bother with the context here. Rogan flipping in favor of Trump. Signaling a flip in popularity among moderates. Almost like the 2024 election won't be exactly like 2020. You know, this crazy concept that stuff happens over 4 years that might cause things to change.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
If you view it as a popularity contest why in the world would we nominate the person who lost a popularity contest to Biden already?
Trump backed candidates have lost basically every swing state/district election since 2020. There is zero indication moderates will operate any differently in 2024. More importantly, Trump has continued to turn off moderates in the states he needs to flip for '24, which is really all that matters.
RFK is a nothing. So it will be Trump vs Biden. But chicken little away.Phatbob said:Have you not been paying attention? Rogan is not in Favor of Trump, he's just not against him. He's all over RFK. RFK =/= Trumptexagbeliever said:Gee did you even bother with the context here. Rogan flipping in favor of Trump. Signaling a flip in popularity among moderates. Almost like the 2024 election won't be exactly like 2020. You know, this crazy concept that stuff happens over 4 years that might cause things to change.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
If you view it as a popularity contest why in the world would we nominate the person who lost a popularity contest to Biden already?
RFK appeals to uneducated crazy conspiracy theorists. Which is exactly what MAGA is. So yes, RFK is a significant problem for both Trump and DeSantis.texagbeliever said:RFK is a nothing. So it will be Trump vs Biden. But chicken little away.Phatbob said:Have you not been paying attention? Rogan is not in Favor of Trump, he's just not against him. He's all over RFK. RFK =/= Trumptexagbeliever said:Gee did you even bother with the context here. Rogan flipping in favor of Trump. Signaling a flip in popularity among moderates. Almost like the 2024 election won't be exactly like 2020. You know, this crazy concept that stuff happens over 4 years that might cause things to change.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
If you view it as a popularity contest why in the world would we nominate the person who lost a popularity contest to Biden already?
Yes. I dont know if you have noticed but America isn't doing great at the moment. People will vote based on the economy. Or education. Or wars. Or anything because it is all bad at the moment.TRM said:
You think people that voted against Trump are going to switch to vote for Trump? They're more likely to leave that line blank or vote 3rd party.
Rapier108 said:Trump/MAGA candidates are now losing elections in districts that are +10 to +25 or more Republican.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Gee did you even bother with the context here. Rogan flipping in favor of Trump. Signaling a flip in popularity among moderates. Almost like the 2024 election won't be exactly like 2020. You know, this crazy concept that stuff happens over 4 years that might cause things to change.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
If you view it as a popularity contest why in the world would we nominate the person who lost a popularity contest to Biden already?
Trump backed candidates have lost basically every swing state/district election since 2020. There is zero indication moderates will operate any differently in 2024. More importantly, Trump has continued to turn off moderates in the states he needs to flip for '24, which is really all that matters.
Dude, I am just correcting your assertion that Rogan is pro-Trump now and that means Trump is getting the moderates. It's just a false assertion of Rogan being pro-Trump. That's it. You're trying to get a Trump trend out of someone who's been pro-RFK for a long time.texagbeliever said:RFK is a nothing. So it will be Trump vs Biden. But chicken little away.Phatbob said:Have you not been paying attention? Rogan is not in Favor of Trump, he's just not against him. He's all over RFK. RFK =/= Trumptexagbeliever said:Gee did you even bother with the context here. Rogan flipping in favor of Trump. Signaling a flip in popularity among moderates. Almost like the 2024 election won't be exactly like 2020. You know, this crazy concept that stuff happens over 4 years that might cause things to change.J. Walter Weatherman said:texagbeliever said:Almost like it is an election not a purity contest. Crazy stuff i know.Old May Banker said:
Strange that as conservatives we've shifted from who has the best policy to who's the most popular.
If you view it as a popularity contest why in the world would we nominate the person who lost a popularity contest to Biden already?
texagbeliever said:Yes. I dont know if you have noticed but America isn't doing great at the moment. People will vote based on the economy. Or education. Or wars. Or anything because it is all bad at the moment.TRM said:
You think people that voted against Trump are going to switch to vote for Trump? They're more likely to leave that line blank or vote 3rd party.
No, people were sold that Biden was just going to be this good ol grandpa that would not be pushing any agenda. He ran on no record and no platform. That won't be the case in 2024. Also amazing how a person hurts their likeability so much that they increase their votes by over 10MM.Definitely Not A Cop said:texagbeliever said:Yes. I dont know if you have noticed but America isn't doing great at the moment. People will vote based on the economy. Or education. Or wars. Or anything because it is all bad at the moment.TRM said:
You think people that voted against Trump are going to switch to vote for Trump? They're more likely to leave that line blank or vote 3rd party.
It truly blows my mind sometimes that even with all of that, trump has destroyed his likability so much that most people still prefer those things over another round of him or his candidates.
