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LOL

Is he insinuating that President Bone Spurs would have any effect? Trump sycophants are hilarious.

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Would rather have bone spurs than lifts

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Not sure who "lifts" would be.

Trump and Biden were both cowardly ****s when others were volunteering. Just betas being betas.

BigRobSA said:

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MookieBlaylock said:

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LOL

Is he insinuating that President Bone Spurs would have any effect? Trump sycophants are hilarious.

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Would rather have bone spurs than lifts

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Not sure who "lifts" would be.

Trump and Biden were both cowardly ****s when others were volunteering. Just betas being betas.

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Trump a beta? Now that is funny

MookieBlaylock said:

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BigRobSA said:

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LOL

Is he insinuating that President Bone Spurs would have any effect? Trump sycophants are hilarious.

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Would rather have bone spurs than lifts

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Not sure who "lifts" would be.

Trump and Biden were both cowardly ****s when others were volunteering. Just betas being betas.

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Trump a beta? Now that is funny

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Correct. Trump was too scared about the mean things people would say about him if he fired fauci so he let him run wild and then gave him a medal. Coward and beta.

MookieBlaylock said:

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Is he insinuating that President Bone Spurs would have any effect? Trump sycophants are hilarious.

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Would rather have bone spurs than lifts

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Not sure who "lifts" would be.

Trump and Biden were both cowardly ****s when others were volunteering. Just betas being betas.

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Trump a beta? Now that is funny

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All evidence suggests he is a beta

Maybe he's keeping his alpha ness a secret?

No, no, guys, you see in MAGA-World talking tough, especially on social media, is the ultimate Alpha move. Serving in the military is for suckers. Those losers pledge loyalty to their country. Its loyalty to your political leader that's the true test. Only Proven Social Media Warrior Trump can lead us through these troubled times.

Totally the behavior of an alpha.

Trump on Hannibal Lecter: You know why I like him? Because he said on television “I love Donald Trump” so I love him pic.twitter.com/1jYyXKFkjI

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 7, 2023

Ron DeSantis at Marion Avenue Baptist Church in Iowa:

"Our rights do not come from the government, they come from the Lord our God. And that begins with the right to life itself.

"And when some people say that signing legislation to protect the right to life — like we did in… pic.twitter.com/42q5PLhaRI

— Never Back Down (@NvrBackDown24) October 8, 2023

If you're wondering how Pennsylvania voted for someone like Fetterman, here's Exhibit A. https://t.co/LoGu4RD1nN

— Joe Concha (@JoeConchaTV) October 8, 2023

Packed house today for @RonDeSantis in Hull Iowa. Population 2,300. Lots of young people prepping to caucus for the first time. You can feel the energy and momentum on the ground. #DeSantis #DeSantis2024 pic.twitter.com/0rQRxgB0zX

— Dr Cody Hoefert (@drcodyhoefert) October 9, 2023

Three days after saying the Chinese Communist Party “may very well turn out to be fine,” Donald Trump pledges to “protect foreign labor.” pic.twitter.com/AuiUKuawvS

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) October 9, 2023

Trump in NH. Looking rough.

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Haley has spent much more time in NH over IA this past month. The last NH poll showed Haley, DeSantis, and Christie all around 10-15% so really, she's taking from the Christie group. DeSantis had a NH swing planned in late August/early Sept, but that got called off due to Idalia and he missed 2 weeks on the trail because of that. So he hasn't been there in a month and a half.

Sidenote: nice to see Vivek collapsing in the polls.

I think after her fracking attack lie, DeSantis will be more aggressive with her at the Miami debate. I'd hit her with her comments about Hillary inspiring her to run in 2003 and using a personal email to conduct business as UN Ambassador like HRC.

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DeSantis heading back to NH this weekend.

DeSantis on Deck for October 9-13, 2023

Monday
•Ron DeSantis appears as a special guest on Never Back Down’s Iowa bus tour.
 
Tuesday
•DeSantis will appear on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. 
•DeSantis will be interviewed by Howie Carr on WKRO 680
 
Wednesday
•DeSantis will join Rob… pic.twitter.com/22YaLhnLV9

— Illinigirl62 (@hsjphil01) October 9, 2023

Still able to read his teleprompter fairly well, though. His handlers must be freaking on what they're witnessing.

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Trump in NH. Looking rough.

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Well, he is old AF.

On the day that we find out that 40 Israeli Babies were beheaded by Hamas, this is what the 🍊🤡 is talking about. pic.twitter.com/LCBxDgvUyM

— Unfiltered☢Boss (@Unfilteredboss1) October 10, 2023

MUST WATCH: @RonDeSantis on MSNBC:

"This is personal for me. I served in Iraq back in 2007, 2008... most of the casualties U.S. troops were suffering were at the hands of Iranian-backed Shia militias. Iran has a lot of American blood on its hands... Turn the screws on them… pic.twitter.com/CgvgVsfYQl

— Carly Atchison (@CarlyAtch) October 10, 2023

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On the day that we find out that 40 Israeli Babies were beheaded by Hamas, this is what the 🍊🤡 is talking about. pic.twitter.com/LCBxDgvUyM

— Unfiltered☢Boss (@Unfilteredboss1) October 10, 2023

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His hatred of DeSantis is palpable, and it has trickled down to his followers who see DeSantis as someone who is worse than Obama, Biden, or probably even Hamas at this point.

Whatever their dear leader Trump tells them to think.

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Hey..you absolutely make a fair point, and I very much agree with you…

But to my point…how do you combat that?

Again, contrary to what some might think, you don't reverse it by regurgitating NBD tweets and anti-Trump articles on friggin' TexAgs…

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Do you honestly think the DeSantis supporters on here are posting in an attempt to influence the opinions of millions of voters spread out across the nation?

Or are you conflating our posts with the actual DeSantis campaign strategy?

The post above makes no sense and is just lashing out at a difference of opinion.

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Lashing out at a difference of opinion is what posters have been doing to me and a handful of others since before DeSantis even joined the race, and I was pointing out that he had a very uphill battle to reverse Trump inertia based on the polling at that time...

And folks clamored to remind me that I was looking at polling that was trash because he hadn't even entered the race yet...

And then he entered with a resounding thud, and as never recovered...

Lashing out is what has happened to folks like me for pointing out the facts of the situation, however unpopular, only to be rebutted with "you're just a Trumpet, and part of the cult!"

I have kept it real and fact-based this entire time...again, you may not like how this is unfolding, but you can't change it by sitting here posting pro-DeSantis and anti-Trump stuff all day long...

The inertia is infinitely greater than many of you have wanted to admit...

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The reason for that is all you do is talk about polling and how it is hopeless for DeSantis. You don't talk about what Trump says or DeSantis says. You don't talk about fundraising or ads or interviews. You just talk polling and typically it is reposting the averages that are regurgitating the same polls. Then sometimes you try to prove how one poll is right because of another poll or average of polls. Every so often you have a "woe is me" post like this that you play the victim that people don't like how you talk about polls and that they won't simply ignore everything else and focus on those polls as the only thing that matters. About the only other analysis you have is "DeSantis needs to do something" or "Arguing on a message board isn't changing the polls".

So yes, people get annoyed with it at some point. It is also odd that you claim to be a DeSantis supporter but you constantly put up negatives on DeSantis and claim it is basically hopeless for him. I don't know that I have ever seen you post a truly positive thing about him or why he can win or why you support him. I don't think I've ever seen you criticize Trump for pretty much anything. That said I haven't looked through every single one of your posts just mainly the ones on this thread.

Trump is likely going to win but we are still at least 5 months from knowing if that will be the case and maybe longer. We will see. As for me I see Trump as the nominee as a virtual guaranteed loss in the General so I would rather that not happen.

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I don't pump sunshine…I stick to facts…not warm and fuzzies and not completely fabricated government gotchas…

Facts…facts are annoying…got it…

Sorry I'm not the cheerleading, blind follower some of y'all need for your giant group hug…

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LOL it's the ultimate irony that Trump backers are proclaiming they are the only ones dealing with "facts"

The facts are that DeSantis is getting curb-stomped in the polls...that is undeniable fact...

With that said, I have said many, MANY times that there is a difference between "facts" and "truth"...

Maybe the "truth" is that DeSantis is dominating everyone in reality, but the only "facts" available are the polls...

Sorry that frustrates you...

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Do you know what absolutely nobody said today when they saw the attack on Israel?

"God, we could sure use Ron DeSantis right now..."

Not a single person.

— Brenden Dilley (@WarlordDilley) October 8, 2023

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well that's a demonstrable lie - because I was certainly saying that last saturday.

I'm not sure anyone has ever said, "God, I could sure use Brenden Dilley right now"

TRM said:

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On the day that we find out that 40 Israeli Babies were beheaded by Hamas, this is what the 🍊🤡 is talking about. pic.twitter.com/LCBxDgvUyM

— Unfiltered☢Boss (@Unfilteredboss1) October 10, 2023

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That is so @#$#@$ infuriating

that Biden is defending Israel more than Trump is.

For future reference, since this seems to be the only way one can communicate with MAGA-or-die folks…

Donald the one pump chump
Donald Gump
Donald hit on E Jean Carroll because he was in a slump
Donald Mar-A-Lago is a dump
Donald had to pay for a hump
Donald's looking a bit plump
Donald Jump to conclusions mat
Donald that lump three feet above his ass
Donald's **** is a wee little stump

"He's Trump, he's Trump
What's in his head?
He's Trump, he's Trump, he's Trump
What's that he said?"

Donald can't last beyond one pump
Donald says he'll drain the swamp, but he's the sump
Donald the callithump
Donald does nothing but tub-thump
Donald the heffalump (because he's only a friend in your imagination)
Donald probably can't remember when he got his own gas at the pump
Donald's a bigger media ***** than Lisa Vanderpump.

FireAg said:

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The facts are that DeSantis is getting curb-stomped in the polls...that is undeniable fact...

With that said, I have said many, MANY times that there is a difference between "facts" and "truth"...

Maybe the "truth" is that DeSantis is dominating everyone in reality, but the only "facts" available are the polls...

Sorry that frustrates you...

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Polls aren't even remotely "facts". Good Lord.

I remember when Trump was accused of being antisemitic and we defended him, rightly. No, Trump isn't racist, sexist, or homophobic. He's just a narcissist. If it doesn't revolve around him, he doesn't really care about it much.

With everything going on Trump is ranting because his spot in the Forbes 400 fell. I can't even understand half of this with all the nicknames and incoherent babble.

I can't believe this could be our nominee, Trump was never this looney in 2016.

pic.twitter.com/hsK7JusEem

— Florida Dad (@FloridadadD) October 9, 2023

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With everything going on Trump is ranting because his spot in the Forbes 400 fell. I can't even understand half of this with all the nicknames and incoherent babble.

I can't believe this could be our nominee, Trump was never this looney in 2016.

pic.twitter.com/hsK7JusEem

— Florida Dad (@FloridadadD) October 9, 2023

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Twitter only had 140 characters back then...

Donald may not have been AS looney in 2016, but he definitely was looney back then.

I'm sorry, but at this point Trump has provided at least a dozen different reasons to jump off his band wagon - unhinged nonsensical rants, lies, proof that he's not as conservative as he claims, and proof that his record isn't what he claims it to be.

IMO we're past the point of no return with Trump support. In other words if you jump off the Trump band wagon now then you'll likely be asked why you didn't jump off after the previous dozen instances of him being BS crazy. And no one can possibly provide a justifiable answer for why they stuck around this long but are now jumping off. So people are sticking with him now, at least outwardly, because they don't want to admit its taken them this long to acknowledge they've been duped by him.

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I'm sorry, but at this point Trump has provided at least a dozen different reasons to jump off his b wagon - unhinged nonsensical rants, lies, and proof that he's not as conservative as he claims and that his record isn't what he claims it to be.

IMO we're past the point of no return with Trump support. In other words if you jump off the Trump band wagon now then you'll likely be asked why you didn't jump off after the previous dozen instances of him being BS crazy. And no one can possibly provide a justifiable answer to that question. So people are sticking with him at least outwardly, because they don't want to admit its taken them this long to acknowledge they've been duped by him.

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I'd love to hear one reason why we should vote for Trump in the primary beyond the cliche answers that MAGA always gives, or saying something along the lines of a "great economy" or "secure border." While the latter he deserves credit for, DeSantis and others pretty much have a very similar economic plan, and DeSantis is not in favor of an open border with a plan to deal with Biden's mess, all without the insane amount of baggage that Trump is dragging along.

"Proven warrior"
"Piss off the left / Own the libs"
"Revenge"
"2020 was stolen"
"Last hope for America"
"Will destroy the deep state/swamp"
"I like mean tweets"
"Winning!"
"Polls!"

It is a FACT that the polling published and used in the RCP and 538 averages say that Trump is expanding his lead over Ron DeSantis nationally…. You cannot dispute that those two sites are reporting that data…

Now, you are more than welcome to decide whether or not the polls are actually TRUE, but I don't know how you prove or disprove the "truth" as to what the electorate is actually going to do without having the election itself…

The facts I am referring to means that those averages are, in fact, the averages of the polls they are using for their statistical analysis…

Are the polls they are using a true representation of what will happen? There's simply no way to know either way without going to the polls on Election Day…

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It is a FACT that the polling published and used in the RCP and 538 averages say that Trump is expanding his lead over Ron DeSantis nationally…. You cannot dispute that those two sites are reporting that data…

Now, you are more than welcome to decide whether or not the polls are actually TRUE, but I don't know how you prove or disprove the "truth" as to what the electorate is actually going to do without having the election itself…

The facts I am referring to means that those averages are, in fact, the averages of the polls they are using for their statistical analysis…

Are the polls they are using a true representation of what will happen? There's simply no way to know either way without going to the polls on Election Day…

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And yet you said this as if it was a fact. But sure, you're not biased towards Trump at all.

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The ONLY way he is the R nominee next November is is something happens to Trump...by hook or by crook..

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It is a FACT that the polling published and used in the RCP and 538 averages say that Trump is expanding his lead over Ron DeSantis nationally…. You cannot dispute that those two sites are reporting that data…

Now, you are more than welcome to decide whether or not the polls are actually TRUE, but I don't know how you prove or disprove the "truth" as to what the electorate is actually going to do without having the election itself…

The facts I am referring to means that those averages are, in fact, the averages of the polls they are using for their statistical analysis…

Are the polls they are using a true representation of what will happen? There's simply no way to know either way without going to the polls on Election Day…

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Polls are the fodder of morons. Not fact.

HTH

Then what pray tell do you use as "fact" at this point in an election cycle?