Just to note that I did a brief survey of likely voters in my car, and DeSantis won, 1-0.

TRM said:

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Straw Poll Results Are In! 🗳️ YRs across the country participated in a straw poll at YRNC Dallas. And it's clear that YRs are divided between two contenders. Ron DeSantis comes in with 36.6% of the support, closely followed by Donald Trump at 35.4%.
 #republicanprimary pic.twitter.com/youyF3Uggg

— The Young Republicans (@yrnf) August 31, 2023

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Bunch of CMs

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Amazing that we post hundreds of articles on this thread detailing the actual reality of policies, news, strategies, historical trends between Trump and DeSantis..

and on the other threads those who support Trump are reduced to ad hominem personal attacks on every DeSantis supporter.

Just like on Twitter X where the DeSantis supporters post news about what DeSantis has done and is doing, while the Trumpers slander everyone and call their "enemies" childish names.

They deserve to lose, and they will lose. It's inevitable.

Either the GOP nominates Governor DeSantis, or Trump loses worse in 2024 to the democrats than he did in 2020.

The only question will be which pitiful excuses are going to be rolled out by the Trump team after he loses.

DeSantis has been MASTERFUL this past week- while Trump rage posts on "Truth Social" like a crazy person.

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I still think there is a big difference between most Trump supporters on Twitter and what is on Texags in general, though there is certainly a lot of personal stuff (I've been called out more personally about DeSantis than anything else in my 25+ years on this site). I try very hard not to make it personal and don't think the namecalling helps either way. In the end all but a few on either side would have Trump and DeSantis in their Top 3 and would vote for them in the General to stop the Socialists.

The only other thing I would say is most of the Trump posts have to do with A)Trump is a victim or being mistreated B) Trump was the Greatest Ever and if elected we will go in a time warp to 2019 or C)Polls and momentum and "it's inevitable" talk.

In the end I hope more do come around but everyone is on their own journey. Trump does hit an emotional chord with people in a way very few Republicans have and it makes people very defensive of him.

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Then why isn't he hitting the road? He should be doing rally after rally to raise money

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The big rallies cost about $1 million each to put on and they aren't bringing in much in return. It's mainly small donors and supporters showing up.

Trump needs big money folks that can write big checks to his PAC and all the big money folks want nothing to do with paying his legal bills. They also don't believe he will win.

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looks like he'll get it from former Desantis backer...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12465943/Ron-DeSantis-50-million-super-PAC-CLOSES-donors-spooked-rookie-s-mistakes.html

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Looks like we can add this guy to the grifter list...

So a guy is running a major campaign, as an underdog, and his affiliated PAC has the gall to ask wealthy donors for - wait for it - MONEY!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/31/politics/desantis-super-pac-audio/index.html

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DeSantis-aligned super PAC asked for $50 million from donors on day of first GOP primary debate, leaked audio shows

In an urgent appeal to wealthy Republicans who had assembled in Milwaukee ahead of the first GOP presidential primary debate, top brass for the super PAC backing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told donors they needed an injection of $50 million over the next four months, according to leaked audio obtained by CNN.

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torrid said:

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So a guy is running a major campaign, as an underdog, and his affiliated PAC has the gall to ask wealthy donors for - wait for it - MONEY!

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If you're referring to the Daily Mail article, that wasn't his PAC.

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torrid said:

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So a guy is running a major campaign, as an underdog, and his affiliated PAC has the gall to ask wealthy donors for - wait for it - MONEY!

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If you're referring to the Daily Mail article, that wasn't his PAC.

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Daily Mail mentions Ron to the Resuce. *NN article mentions Never Back Down, which sounds closer to him.

Click bait article by CNN. Candidates need money and no one is giving money as long as Trump is the polling frontrunner.
Peck had a good idea of microtargetted ads, but she tried to get too big too early.

Levin tonight: DeSantis is exceptional.

torrid said:

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So a guy is running a major campaign, as an underdog, and his affiliated PAC has the gall to ask wealthy donors for - wait for it - MONEY!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/31/politics/desantis-super-pac-audio/index.html

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DeSantis-aligned super PAC asked for $50 million from donors on day of first GOP primary debate, leaked audio shows

In an urgent appeal to wealthy Republicans who had assembled in Milwaukee ahead of the first GOP presidential primary debate, top brass for the super PAC backing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told donors they needed an injection of $50 million over the next four months, according to leaked audio obtained by CNN.

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It was a Trump hit, the guy was clearly a Trump supporter and Trump pushed it immediately. It was fake.

You will be shocked to learn that this is completely bogus and the usual suspects fell for it. The guy behind this PAC is a scam artist that never got anywhere near DeSantis.

He claimed he had a secret $50M in commitments, but actually raised $291.01 this year. (Ht @rpyers) https://t.co/cvLCTao035 pic.twitter.com/x75AUSMCYb

— AG (@AGHamilton29) August 31, 2023

Brutal Community Note on Trump who is trying to act like he was Covid Hero again

COVID Tyrants want to take away our Freedom.

Hear my words— WE WILL NOT COMPLY. pic.twitter.com/Kql1YaxuO0

— Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TeamTrump) August 30, 2023

De Santis is kind of guy that can call you out, call you a dumbass , and if you are not very smart , like libs, you don't know you got punked. Biden and Trump are caustic tongues.

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torrid said:

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So a guy is running a major campaign, as an underdog, and his affiliated PAC has the gall to ask wealthy donors for - wait for it - MONEY!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/31/politics/desantis-super-pac-audio/index.html

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DeSantis-aligned super PAC asked for $50 million from donors on day of first GOP primary debate, leaked audio shows

In an urgent appeal to wealthy Republicans who had assembled in Milwaukee ahead of the first GOP presidential primary debate, top brass for the super PAC backing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told donors they needed an injection of $50 million over the next four months, according to leaked audio obtained by CNN.

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It was a Trump hit, the guy was clearly a Trump supporter and Trump pushed it immediately. It was fake.

You will be shocked to learn that this is completely bogus and the usual suspects fell for it. The guy behind this PAC is a scam artist that never got anywhere near DeSantis.

He claimed he had a secret $50M in commitments, but actually raised $291.01 this year. (Ht @rpyers) https://t.co/cvLCTao035 pic.twitter.com/x75AUSMCYb

— AG (@AGHamilton29) August 31, 2023

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Lol - Trump grifters dominated by community notes again.

Trump setting up grandma to get scammed.

Trump's claims vs. reality. pic.twitter.com/o8yLTTubnU

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) August 31, 2023

I visited Horseshoe Beach First Baptist Church, where they have been hard at work distributing food and water to those impacted by the storm.
 
Floridians are resilient, and we can already see this entire community working together to take care of each other. pic.twitter.com/29kTjfhOau

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) August 31, 2023

TRM said:

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Trump setting up grandma to get scammed.

Trump's claims vs. reality. pic.twitter.com/o8yLTTubnU

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) August 31, 2023

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100% certain the PAC was setup by Trump supporters and then "shut down" so it could bash DeSantis and "endorse" Trump at the most opportune time.

Looks like the hurricane is when they needed to do it since DeSantis was getting lots of good press.

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torrid said:

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So a guy is running a major campaign, as an underdog, and his affiliated PAC has the gall to ask wealthy donors for - wait for it - MONEY!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/31/politics/desantis-super-pac-audio/index.html

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DeSantis-aligned super PAC asked for $50 million from donors on day of first GOP primary debate, leaked audio shows

In an urgent appeal to wealthy Republicans who had assembled in Milwaukee ahead of the first GOP presidential primary debate, top brass for the super PAC backing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told donors they needed an injection of $50 million over the next four months, according to leaked audio obtained by CNN.

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It was a Trump hit, the guy was clearly a Trump supporter and Trump pushed it immediately. It was fake.

You will be shocked to learn that this is completely bogus and the usual suspects fell for it. The guy behind this PAC is a scam artist that never got anywhere near DeSantis.

He claimed he had a secret $50M in commitments, but actually raised $291.01 this year. (Ht @rpyers) https://t.co/cvLCTao035 pic.twitter.com/x75AUSMCYb

— AG (@AGHamilton29) August 31, 2023

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This was an unaffiliated PAC that claimed $50 million in "committed donations" but reality had less than $3000 in its account. The founder now has $57 left and intends to support Trump.

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Looks like he and Trump have the same amount of money in their PACs...

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aggie93 said:

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torrid said:

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So a guy is running a major campaign, as an underdog, and his affiliated PAC has the gall to ask wealthy donors for - wait for it - MONEY!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/31/politics/desantis-super-pac-audio/index.html

Quote:

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DeSantis-aligned super PAC asked for $50 million from donors on day of first GOP primary debate, leaked audio shows

In an urgent appeal to wealthy Republicans who had assembled in Milwaukee ahead of the first GOP presidential primary debate, top brass for the super PAC backing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told donors they needed an injection of $50 million over the next four months, according to leaked audio obtained by CNN.

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It was a Trump hit, the guy was clearly a Trump supporter and Trump pushed it immediately. It was fake.

You will be shocked to learn that this is completely bogus and the usual suspects fell for it. The guy behind this PAC is a scam artist that never got anywhere near DeSantis.

He claimed he had a secret $50M in commitments, but actually raised $291.01 this year. (Ht @rpyers) https://t.co/cvLCTao035 pic.twitter.com/x75AUSMCYb

— AG (@AGHamilton29) August 31, 2023

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Lol - Trump grifters dominated by community notes again.

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Community notes is enough to keep Trump away from twitter

LeonardSkinner said:

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Just to note that I did a brief survey of likely voters in my car, and DeSantis won, 1-0.

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That's crazy- the same result in my car!

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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aggie93 said:

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torrid said:

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So a guy is running a major campaign, as an underdog, and his affiliated PAC has the gall to ask wealthy donors for - wait for it - MONEY!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/31/politics/desantis-super-pac-audio/index.html

Quote:

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DeSantis-aligned super PAC asked for $50 million from donors on day of first GOP primary debate, leaked audio shows

In an urgent appeal to wealthy Republicans who had assembled in Milwaukee ahead of the first GOP presidential primary debate, top brass for the super PAC backing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told donors they needed an injection of $50 million over the next four months, according to leaked audio obtained by CNN.

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It was a Trump hit, the guy was clearly a Trump supporter and Trump pushed it immediately. It was fake.

You will be shocked to learn that this is completely bogus and the usual suspects fell for it. The guy behind this PAC is a scam artist that never got anywhere near DeSantis.

He claimed he had a secret $50M in commitments, but actually raised $291.01 this year. (Ht @rpyers) https://t.co/cvLCTao035 pic.twitter.com/x75AUSMCYb

— AG (@AGHamilton29) August 31, 2023

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Lol - Trump grifters dominated by community notes again.

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Community notes is enough to keep Trump away from twitter

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and of course the Trump supporters completely believe a BRITISH TABLOID with no sourcing other than from Trump supporters...

just the daily lies from the team at Mar A Lago working with their buddies in the media. Let's not forget the way the Trumpers worked with the National Enquirer to slander Ted Cruz in 2016.

LMCane said:

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LeonardSkinner said:

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Just to note that I did a brief survey of likely voters in my car, and DeSantis won, 1-0.

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That's crazy- the same result in my car!

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3-0 in mine.

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TRM said:

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Trump setting up grandma to get scammed.

Trump's claims vs. reality. pic.twitter.com/o8yLTTubnU

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) August 31, 2023

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100% certain the PAC was setup by Trump supporters and then "shut down" so it could bash DeSantis and "endorse" Trump at the most opportune time.

Looks like the hurricane is when they needed to do it since DeSantis was getting lots of good press.

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I have seen this particular grift was set up BEFORE DeSantis declared

and once Ron heard about it he told everyone to stay away.

hence the fact it raised 291 dollars.

not 291,000 dollars

but 291 dollars.

I doubt Trump is smart enough to plan this far in advance to set up a grifter sting. I think it was just the idiots trying to take advantage of other idiots.

The latest grifting scam targeting DeSantis:

"The PAC is called Ron to the Rescue and the founder is John Thomas, described as a Republican strategist.

The only time I have read Thomas' name has been in connection this super PAC, which I've written about in past posts. I had never heard the name before DeSantis edged toward running for president.

Yesterday, after reading that article in the Daily Mail, I looked for a FEC page to see what kind of money we're talking about here. Well, that was interesting. The FEC filings show the PAC was registered on November 14, 2022.

The first FEC report is for the 4th quarter of 2022. From 10/01/2022 to 12/31/2022, Total receipts listed is $1,330.00.

There is only one donor listed, a person in California listed as a Research Scientist. The donation was $500.00 on 11/17/22.

There is a donation listed from John Thomas for $250 on 1/26/23. Those are the only two receipts of donations I find. Where's the $50M? Who are the big donors Thomas claims to have on board?"

Another Trumper Hit Piece on Governor DeSantis

Waffle House was open right after the storm providing hot meals after Hurricane Idalia.

Thank you for serving Floridians during their time of need. pic.twitter.com/vwzwO7cpMy

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) September 1, 2023

“TRUE LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN A STEADY CONSTANT,” @TomiLahren says about @RonDeSantis 🔥

“His ability to plan, execute and lead during times of disaster is unmatched, whether it be a hurricane or COVID tyranny or day-to-day tasks…” pic.twitter.com/owpQBLT28Z

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) September 1, 2023

It's fortunate the hurricane moved fast and didn't linger but it's a real victory so far for DeSantis on being an effective leader and problem solver all while communicating clearly with the public. This will be notices and appreciated by the national GOP voters.

🚨JUST IN: Governor Ron DeSantis Activates the Florida Small Business Emergency Bridge Loan Program, Making $20 Million Available for Businesses Impacted by Hurricane Idalia#Idalia #HurricaneIdalia

— Chris Nelson 🇺🇸 🏝 (@ReOpenChris) September 1, 2023

Lamar Gore, a local contractor, was grateful he was without power for only six hours after Hurricane Idalia hit. He said they had been without power for days in the past with storms that weren't as powerful ——> https://t.co/MfGgBobVXk pic.twitter.com/pfkVq6dygB

— Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) September 1, 2023

This is how you rig polls to get the results you want. Oversample an area where your candidate is strong like a third of those sampled are from the south.

We'd like to take a moment to congratulate Donald J. Trump on winning the "non binary" vote in the latest Emerson poll.

Non Binary 2024
Trump: 31.5%
Biden: 19.8%

Well done, zir! pic.twitter.com/8X52CrLYtg

— WPA Intelligence (@WPAIntel) September 1, 2023

Today I met with residents in Madison County who were heavily impacted by Idalia.

Operation BBQ Relief has been serving hot meals at Madison County High School and they will continue to be in the community to meet outstanding needs. pic.twitter.com/qCHemZGp33

— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) September 2, 2023

Desantis .... actual "proven warrior and leader" unlike TARPy Trump, the Proven Gimp.

I never check this *****

But just a reminder from my sane pod of folk, never Trump, never Dem. Push me to 3rd party again with pleasure.

agz win said:

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It's fortunate the hurricane moved fast and didn't linger but it's a real victory so far for DeSantis on being an effective leader and problem solver all while communicating clearly with the public. This will be notices and appreciated by the national GOP voters.

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That is an excellent thing- but even in the media it's as if Florida ITSELF is not the second largest GOP state in the Union-

so while this may help Ron D get better exposure across the country, people are missing that his vast success and ability to lead and execute strategy just likely won him the Florida primary.

Which is pretty danged important in it's own right.

Anyone know the difference between the Florida National Guard which has existed for 100 years

and the new "Guard" where DeSantis was setting it up and they were helping out as well in this Hurricane?

Trump crowd attacking other republicans. Again.

Trump campaign pushing conspiracy theory that Kemp stole election from Stacey Abrams. pic.twitter.com/FqNpeMhv7v

— Stinson Norwood (@snorman1776) September 1, 2023