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DeSantis needs to to be the R nominee in 2024...and I'm a Trump guy...
DeSantis is THE story of the night...
Or number 5, the left and MSM fears DeSantis more than Trump because he actually gets stuff done.Funky Winkerbean said:LMCane said:Funky Winkerbean said:
The qualifications and vision in regards to DeSantis is not his issue. He is very much qualified and worthy of all our votes. His problem right now is timing. The core of the Republican Party is pissed off over what's happened to Trump (read us) and wants the "outsider" DJT to tear a new ******* into the Democrats. We are tired of swamp, RINO, aisle crossing limp dicked politicians not doing their jobs. Agree or disagree on what Trump did, but you can't deny he got things done (at least before getting neutered). The thought of a pissed off, 2nd term Trump is exciting in regards to policy, and orgasmic in regards to politics. He brings out the worst in the left, which given how criminal they've acted, I want them shamed and prosecuted for that. And honestly, if it's DeSantis or Trump we all win. But at this point and time my dream scenario is 4 more with Trump, then 8 more with DeSantis.
why is it that Trumpers can only think about two scenarios:
1. we put Trump back in to destroy everyone and everything
2. we put DeSantis in and maybe he doesn't destroy everyone and everything
how about scenario 3:
3. we nominate our weaker general election candiate Trump; Biden is elected or Newsome is elected; and we have FIVE MORE YEARS of this leftist destruction of the country.
I wonder why Trumpers never discuss scenario 3?
Or how about number 4?
The liberal MSM (The NBC poll you reference) is continuing its onslaught of Trump because the left fears what he knows and his tenacity to hold them accountable. Why don't you talk about that? You're following everything that supports your TDS. But please continue your preaching. If you haven't learned to distrust the media, where have you been?
TRM said:https://t.co/mvxODOczuz pic.twitter.com/G0kAyOLiS2
— Steve Deace (@SteveDeaceShow) June 28, 2023
I get what you are saying, I really do, but people (and especially the media) LOVE reporting on a train wreck, and right now, Trump is that train wreck. He is using all the oxygen in the room. He is the Jerry Springer of politics, and you just can't look away. I think relying on that sensationalism is a very bad thing for our political and national health. Thinking that we need to operate the same way is just submitting ourselves to the problems that cause the mess we are in nationally to begin with. I want to see results instead of headlines.FireAg said:Jesus H. Christ, dude...I happen to like what RD says, including what is in the tweets above...Phatbob said:Woah there, brother... I did not mean to insinuate that you had (thus the paragraph break). Read what I wrote, not what you are thinking I wrote. My challenge to you is, does this meat your guidelines of "He needs to do something that grabs headlines" yet "don't anger MAGA" (the same way MAGA gets all the headlines)?FireAg said:Show me ONE ****ing time I have EVER said DeSantis is "establishment"...ONE TIME...Phatbob said:
Nothing says "establishment" like eliminating entire federal bureaucratic agencies.
So is this something that doesn't move the needle for you, FireAg? Or does it need to be directed at Trump and be some nonsensical derogatory name to count? Except you don't want that, either because "we need the MAGA vote and can't ruffle their feathers"?
Reading comprehension is something a lot of you need work on...it's pretty pathetic how bad some of you are at it...
I am NOT "anti-DeSantis"...I'll happily pull the handle for him in November 2024 if he's at the top...
And I have NEVER said otherwise...
So take your bull**** schtick and shove it...
I have NEVER said otherwise...
But I am NOT the one you have to convince...there are 10s of millions of folks that are pro-Trump currently that do NOT follow every little morsel on Twitter...
Why the **** can't we have an open conversation with give and take on TexAgs without one side or the other being triggered and coming out guns blazing with every little ****ing discussion point?
And THAT is my point...BOTH of these camps need to work TOGETHER next November, no matter what...
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I understand it's just a quick sound bite on Fox early on the primary cycle, but he wants to shut down the Department of Energy? People think it's a good idea to shut down the department that maintains our nuclear weapons stockpile? That's wild to me.
Reorganize it. Dept of Energy has only existed since the 70s.Michael Cera Palin said:TRM said:https://t.co/mvxODOczuz pic.twitter.com/G0kAyOLiS2
— Steve Deace (@SteveDeaceShow) June 28, 2023
I understand it's just a quick sound bite on Fox early on the primary cycle, but he wants to shut down the Department of Energy? People think it's a good idea to shut down the department that maintains our nuclear weapons stockpile? That's wild to me.
If your measurement is grabbing headlines this far out then of course DeSantis is losing and is likely to continue to do so. The media isn't going to cover him the same way as Trump at this point. He is plugging away though and getting press. Talking about policy for an Admin that won't be in power until Jan of 25 though isn't sexy, getting arrested is.FireAg said:
They aren't grabbing headlines, man...
THAT'S my point...
And several of his followers on TA (yes, small "n", I get it) would rather tear into folks they should be building bridges with than ripping each other new *******s...
Yes, there are millions of folks out there still butthurt about 2020, and for good reason, and they are butthurt that tax dollars are still being spent to literally fabricate crimes about the guy the liked (and it was being done before, during, and after his time in office)... And of those folks, there are millions of them who don't "Twitter" (hell, I don't Twitter...I just read what gets posted here)...
I will say it one more time for the reading comprehension ******s out there...I think Ron DeSantis is an excellent candidate...I truly do...
I currently have concerns that he is not generating the buzz that I think he should be generating on a national scale... He's a younger, proven politician with many Trump-esque ideas, and he is far less abrasive...
I just feel like he should be garnering more ink than he does at this point, and I have concerns about that...
Most people who still gravitate toward Trump aren't the inbred, mouth-breathing sycophants that some of y'all dismiss them as...
They are good, well-educated, intelligent, hard-working Americans that need to be understood and embraced...not **** on and dismissed...
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Most people who still gravitate toward Trump aren't the inbred, mouth-breathing sycophants that some of y'all dismiss them as...
That's fair, but you need to also recognize that it's disingenuous to claim "Trump didn't do ****", because he actually did, and he deserves credit for his accomplishments even though they may not have met all of his promises...Phatbob said:I get what you are saying, I really do, but people (and especially the media) LOVE reporting on a train wreck, and right now, Trump is that train wreck. He is using all the oxygen in the room. He is the Jerry Springer of politics, and you just can't look away. I think relying on that sensationalism is a very bad thing for our political and national health. Thinking that we need to operate the same way is just submitting ourselves to the problems that cause the mess we are in nationally to begin with. I want to see results instead of headlines.FireAg said:Jesus H. Christ, dude...I happen to like what RD says, including what is in the tweets above...Phatbob said:Woah there, brother... I did not mean to insinuate that you had (thus the paragraph break). Read what I wrote, not what you are thinking I wrote. My challenge to you is, does this meat your guidelines of "He needs to do something that grabs headlines" yet "don't anger MAGA" (the same way MAGA gets all the headlines)?FireAg said:Show me ONE ****ing time I have EVER said DeSantis is "establishment"...ONE TIME...Phatbob said:
Nothing says "establishment" like eliminating entire federal bureaucratic agencies.
So is this something that doesn't move the needle for you, FireAg? Or does it need to be directed at Trump and be some nonsensical derogatory name to count? Except you don't want that, either because "we need the MAGA vote and can't ruffle their feathers"?
Reading comprehension is something a lot of you need work on...it's pretty pathetic how bad some of you are at it...
I am NOT "anti-DeSantis"...I'll happily pull the handle for him in November 2024 if he's at the top...
And I have NEVER said otherwise...
So take your bull**** schtick and shove it...
I have NEVER said otherwise...
But I am NOT the one you have to convince...there are 10s of millions of folks that are pro-Trump currently that do NOT follow every little morsel on Twitter...
Why the **** can't we have an open conversation with give and take on TexAgs without one side or the other being triggered and coming out guns blazing with every little ****ing discussion point?
And THAT is my point...BOTH of these camps need to work TOGETHER next November, no matter what...
I would love to work with the millions of Trump supporters to fix what is wrong with our country, but it won't fix anything if we just let slide the things actually causing the destruction, and Trump is encouraging that sort of thinking (just from the right instead of the left).
I will continue to point out that what Trump says he wants to do, and the actual results of what he does are not congruent, and that supporting him gets us further from our actual goals, even if it pisses off the MAGA crowd because it's true, and they need to see it. Look, I am no prophet, but the prophets weren't sent to the gentiles, they were sent to the Hebrews to point out where they were wrong.
aggie93 said:Reorganize it. Dept of Energy has only existed since the 70s.Michael Cera Palin said:TRM said:https://t.co/mvxODOczuz pic.twitter.com/G0kAyOLiS2
— Steve Deace (@SteveDeaceShow) June 28, 2023
I understand it's just a quick sound bite on Fox early on the primary cycle, but he wants to shut down the Department of Energy? People think it's a good idea to shut down the department that maintains our nuclear weapons stockpile? That's wild to me.
But you make it a personal insult...you just called their reasoning "ridiculous"...Phatbob said:Quote:
Most people who still gravitate toward Trump aren't the inbred, mouth-breathing sycophants that some of y'all dismiss them as...
Every single one of us can act rashly and make decisions based on emotions or marketing, or some other reason we regret. Pointing out when people are making bad decisions based on bad reasoning does not mean calling them "mouth-breathing sycophants". And just because we don't buy into their ridiculous reasoning for supporting 1 candidate, despite all the evidence, doesn't mean we are being mean.
It is possible something made sense to support in the past, but does not make sense to support anymore. Trump had his time, and yes, he was given a raw deal, but that doesn't make him the best choice now. I can't help that some people take that as a personal insult, that is on them.
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But calling them "ridiculous" is dismissive...and you are referring to some folks who, like I said, are well-educated and intelligent...
Zarathustra said:Funky Winkerbean said:LMCane said:Funky Winkerbean said:
The qualifications and vision in regards to DeSantis is not his issue. He is very much qualified and worthy of all our votes. His problem right now is timing. The core of the Republican Party is pissed off over what's happened to Trump (read us) and wants the "outsider" DJT to tear a new ******* into the Democrats. We are tired of swamp, RINO, aisle crossing limp dicked politicians not doing their jobs. Agree or disagree on what Trump did, but you can't deny he got things done (at least before getting neutered). The thought of a pissed off, 2nd term Trump is exciting in regards to policy, and orgasmic in regards to politics. He brings out the worst in the left, which given how criminal they've acted, I want them shamed and prosecuted for that. And honestly, if it's DeSantis or Trump we all win. But at this point and time my dream scenario is 4 more with Trump, then 8 more with DeSantis.
why is it that Trumpers can only think about two scenarios:
1. we put Trump back in to destroy everyone and everything
2. we put DeSantis in and maybe he doesn't destroy everyone and everything
how about scenario 3:
3. we nominate our weaker general election candiate Trump; Biden is elected or Newsome is elected; and we have FIVE MORE YEARS of this leftist destruction of the country.
I wonder why Trumpers never discuss scenario 3?
Or how about number 4?
The liberal MSM (The NBC poll you reference) is continuing its onslaught of Trump because the left fears what he knows and his tenacity to hold them accountable. Why don't you talk about that? You're following everything that supports your TDS. But please continue your preaching. If you haven't learned to distrust the media, where have you been?
Can you state an example of where Trump held someone on the left accountable?
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But you make it a personal insult...you just called their reasoning "ridiculous"...
Their reasoning, though you may not agree with it, isn't completely irrational nor ridiculous... It differs from yours, and it is good to have a healthy debate about it...
But calling them "ridiculous" is dismissive...and you are referring to some folks who, like I said, are well-educated and intelligent...
Funky Winkerbean said:Please back this up.Rapier108 said:
Cult45 lies more than the left does.
Essentially people who call for the elimination of the Dept of Energy are calling for reorganization, possibly as it was before or in a new way. No one is saying we should just let people do whatever they want with nuclear power or defense for instance. It's about reshaping the bureaucracy to be less intrusive and more efficient.Michael Cera Palin said:aggie93 said:Reorganize it. Dept of Energy has only existed since the 70s.Michael Cera Palin said:TRM said:https://t.co/mvxODOczuz pic.twitter.com/G0kAyOLiS2
— Steve Deace (@SteveDeaceShow) June 28, 2023
I understand it's just a quick sound bite on Fox early on the primary cycle, but he wants to shut down the Department of Energy? People think it's a good idea to shut down the department that maintains our nuclear weapons stockpile? That's wild to me.
Reorganization is not the same as elimination. Like I said, I know it's a quick Fox News sound bite so there's no room for nuance in their conversation.
And DOE was born in the 70's when the Atomic Energy Commission was split into DOE and NRC, with NRC taking governance over commercial nuclear power while DOE focused on weapons/defense/research. As time has gone on that mission has grown. I'm ok with reorganization if someone makes a competent plan for that, but when you jump on Fox and say you want to eliminate it entirely that's kinda concerning to me. And I say that as someone who wants Desantis to win the primary over Trump.
I would venture to guess that almost everyone here agrees Trump was treated unfairly if not illegally. The issue is he brought SO MUCH on himself. He appointed terrible people that were either incompetent or betrayed him. He invited Bob Woodward into the WH with nearly unfettered access for a long time to write a book. He still is pals with Maggie over at the NYT and leaks to her like crazy.FireAg said:That's fair, but you need to also recognize that it's disingenuous to claim "Trump didn't do ****", because he actually did, and he deserves credit for his accomplishments even though they may not have met all of his promises...Phatbob said:I get what you are saying, I really do, but people (and especially the media) LOVE reporting on a train wreck, and right now, Trump is that train wreck. He is using all the oxygen in the room. He is the Jerry Springer of politics, and you just can't look away. I think relying on that sensationalism is a very bad thing for our political and national health. Thinking that we need to operate the same way is just submitting ourselves to the problems that cause the mess we are in nationally to begin with. I want to see results instead of headlines.FireAg said:Jesus H. Christ, dude...I happen to like what RD says, including what is in the tweets above...Phatbob said:Woah there, brother... I did not mean to insinuate that you had (thus the paragraph break). Read what I wrote, not what you are thinking I wrote. My challenge to you is, does this meat your guidelines of "He needs to do something that grabs headlines" yet "don't anger MAGA" (the same way MAGA gets all the headlines)?FireAg said:Show me ONE ****ing time I have EVER said DeSantis is "establishment"...ONE TIME...Phatbob said:
Nothing says "establishment" like eliminating entire federal bureaucratic agencies.
So is this something that doesn't move the needle for you, FireAg? Or does it need to be directed at Trump and be some nonsensical derogatory name to count? Except you don't want that, either because "we need the MAGA vote and can't ruffle their feathers"?
Reading comprehension is something a lot of you need work on...it's pretty pathetic how bad some of you are at it...
I am NOT "anti-DeSantis"...I'll happily pull the handle for him in November 2024 if he's at the top...
And I have NEVER said otherwise...
So take your bull**** schtick and shove it...
I have NEVER said otherwise...
But I am NOT the one you have to convince...there are 10s of millions of folks that are pro-Trump currently that do NOT follow every little morsel on Twitter...
Why the **** can't we have an open conversation with give and take on TexAgs without one side or the other being triggered and coming out guns blazing with every little ****ing discussion point?
And THAT is my point...BOTH of these camps need to work TOGETHER next November, no matter what...
I would love to work with the millions of Trump supporters to fix what is wrong with our country, but it won't fix anything if we just let slide the things actually causing the destruction, and Trump is encouraging that sort of thinking (just from the right instead of the left).
I will continue to point out that what Trump says he wants to do, and the actual results of what he does are not congruent, and that supporting him gets us further from our actual goals, even if it pisses off the MAGA crowd because it's true, and they need to see it. Look, I am no prophet, but the prophets weren't sent to the gentiles, they were sent to the Hebrews to point out where they were wrong.
And why? Because he DID accomplish things with all of the Left and some of the Right fighting him every step of the way...
The dude was being persecuted over completely fabricated bull**** before he even got the keys to the Oval Office... Russian collusion? Quid pro quo? Any of those ring a bell? What about trying to take down Kavanaugh with made up "me too" nonsense? These are just mere examples of what Trump faced in his 4 years...and the list is EXTENSIVE... So you can't just dismiss him as a complete failure because the man literally had everything and the kitchen sink thrown at him to stand in his way because he wasn't supposed to win 2016...he did good things...I wish he could have done more...but he did accomplish good things that I agree with IN SPITE of the inertia against him...
Is he brash and rude? Yup...sure is... But at this point, I would be too given everything he has had to put up with... And a lot of folks who still favor him are angry too...and as I said before...for damn good reason...
Basically, we have so many simple minded cult-like dullards we are probably doomed. Pales in comparison to the dumbassery of the left obviously, but my fear is that we just have too many simple minded meatheads who just began getting engaged in politics because Trump came across as a relatable simple minded meathead too.FireAg said:
They aren't grabbing headlines, man...
THAT'S my point...
And several of his followers on TA (yes, small "n", I get it) would rather tear into folks they should be building bridges with than ripping each other new *******s...
Yes, there are millions of folks out there still butthurt about 2020, and for good reason, and they are butthurt that tax dollars are still being spent to literally fabricate crimes about the guy the liked (and it was being done before, during, and after his time in office)... And of those folks, there are millions of them who don't "Twitter" (hell, I don't Twitter...I just read what gets posted here)...
I will say it one more time for the reading comprehension ******s out there...I think Ron DeSantis is an excellent candidate...I truly do...
I currently have concerns that he is not generating the buzz that I think he should be generating on a national scale... He's a younger, proven politician with many Trump-esque ideas, and he is far less abrasive...
I just feel like he should be garnering more ink than he does at this point, and I have concerns about that...
Most people who still gravitate toward Trump aren't the inbred, mouth-breathing sycophants that some of y'all dismiss them as...
They are good, well-educated, intelligent, hard-working Americans that need to be understood and embraced...not **** on and dismissed...
Sad day for affirmative-action advocates. pic.twitter.com/DdLXun4OcR
— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) June 29, 2023
And what are you doing to bring him into your line of thinking...I mean aside from calling him a "cult-like dullard" and "meathead"?BG Knocc Out said:Basically, we have so many simple minded cult-like dullards we are probably doomed. Pales in comparison to the dumbassery of the left obviously, but my fear is that we just have too many simple minded meatheads who just began getting engaged in politics because Trump came across as a relatable simple minded meathead too.FireAg said:
They aren't grabbing headlines, man...
THAT'S my point...
And several of his followers on TA (yes, small "n", I get it) would rather tear into folks they should be building bridges with than ripping each other new *******s...
Yes, there are millions of folks out there still butthurt about 2020, and for good reason, and they are butthurt that tax dollars are still being spent to literally fabricate crimes about the guy the liked (and it was being done before, during, and after his time in office)... And of those folks, there are millions of them who don't "Twitter" (hell, I don't Twitter...I just read what gets posted here)...
I will say it one more time for the reading comprehension ******s out there...I think Ron DeSantis is an excellent candidate...I truly do...
I currently have concerns that he is not generating the buzz that I think he should be generating on a national scale... He's a younger, proven politician with many Trump-esque ideas, and he is far less abrasive...
I just feel like he should be garnering more ink than he does at this point, and I have concerns about that...
Most people who still gravitate toward Trump aren't the inbred, mouth-breathing sycophants that some of y'all dismiss them as...
They are good, well-educated, intelligent, hard-working Americans that need to be understood and embraced...not **** on and dismissed...
I have a friend like this. Great solid working class dude who is borderline illiterate. The other day he spelled immigrant as "imagrant". He very well may have never voted in his life until Trump entered the picture and he liked how much sh** he talked and how few f***s he had to give. He's a hardcore "Trump and only Trumper" and probably believes every single one of Trump's nasty bald faced lies about Desantis. He was never politically engaged or outwardly opinionated until Trump.
I fear there are millions, maybe tens of millions like him...and it's going to ensure someone like Gavin Newsom wins the presidency and we continue to drift hard left as a nation.
BG Knocc Out said:Basically, we have so many simple minded cult-like dullards we are probably doomed. Pales in comparison to the dumbassery of the left obviously, but my fear is that we just have too many simple minded meatheads who just began getting engaged in politics because Trump came across as a relatable simple minded meathead too.FireAg said:
They aren't grabbing headlines, man...
THAT'S my point...
And several of his followers on TA (yes, small "n", I get it) would rather tear into folks they should be building bridges with than ripping each other new *******s...
Yes, there are millions of folks out there still butthurt about 2020, and for good reason, and they are butthurt that tax dollars are still being spent to literally fabricate crimes about the guy the liked (and it was being done before, during, and after his time in office)... And of those folks, there are millions of them who don't "Twitter" (hell, I don't Twitter...I just read what gets posted here)...
I will say it one more time for the reading comprehension ******s out there...I think Ron DeSantis is an excellent candidate...I truly do...
I currently have concerns that he is not generating the buzz that I think he should be generating on a national scale... He's a younger, proven politician with many Trump-esque ideas, and he is far less abrasive...
I just feel like he should be garnering more ink than he does at this point, and I have concerns about that...
Most people who still gravitate toward Trump aren't the inbred, mouth-breathing sycophants that some of y'all dismiss them as...
They are good, well-educated, intelligent, hard-working Americans that need to be understood and embraced...not **** on and dismissed...
I have a friend like this. Great solid working class dude who is borderline illiterate. The other day he spelled immigrant as "imagrant". He very well may have never voted in his life until Trump entered the picture and he liked how much sh** he talked and how few f***s he had to give. He's a hardcore "Trump and only Trumper" and probably believes every single one of Trump's nasty bald faced lies about Desantis. He was never politically engaged or outwardly opinionated until Trump.
I fear there are millions, maybe tens of millions like him...and it's going to ensure someone like Gavin Newsom wins the presidency and we continue to drift hard left as a nation.
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Thomas Sowell argued for affirmative action so I would go easy here
Could very well be true...FL_Ag1998 said:BG Knocc Out said:Basically, we have so many simple minded cult-like dullards we are probably doomed. Pales in comparison to the dumbassery of the left obviously, but my fear is that we just have too many simple minded meatheads who just began getting engaged in politics because Trump came across as a relatable simple minded meathead too.FireAg said:
They aren't grabbing headlines, man...
THAT'S my point...
And several of his followers on TA (yes, small "n", I get it) would rather tear into folks they should be building bridges with than ripping each other new *******s...
Yes, there are millions of folks out there still butthurt about 2020, and for good reason, and they are butthurt that tax dollars are still being spent to literally fabricate crimes about the guy the liked (and it was being done before, during, and after his time in office)... And of those folks, there are millions of them who don't "Twitter" (hell, I don't Twitter...I just read what gets posted here)...
I will say it one more time for the reading comprehension ******s out there...I think Ron DeSantis is an excellent candidate...I truly do...
I currently have concerns that he is not generating the buzz that I think he should be generating on a national scale... He's a younger, proven politician with many Trump-esque ideas, and he is far less abrasive...
I just feel like he should be garnering more ink than he does at this point, and I have concerns about that...
Most people who still gravitate toward Trump aren't the inbred, mouth-breathing sycophants that some of y'all dismiss them as...
They are good, well-educated, intelligent, hard-working Americans that need to be understood and embraced...not **** on and dismissed...
I have a friend like this. Great solid working class dude who is borderline illiterate. The other day he spelled immigrant as "imagrant". He very well may have never voted in his life until Trump entered the picture and he liked how much sh** he talked and how few f***s he had to give. He's a hardcore "Trump and only Trumper" and probably believes every single one of Trump's nasty bald faced lies about Desantis. He was never politically engaged or outwardly opinionated until Trump.
I fear there are millions, maybe tens of millions like him...and it's going to ensure someone like Gavin Newsom wins the presidency and we continue to drift hard left as a nation.
The Right thought they had stumbled into a way to break the establishment when Trump came along. The Left was so arrogant after Obama that in their hubris they dismissed him.
But then he won.
The Right celebrated. But the Left realized they had accidentally stumbled into a controlled opposition scenario with Trump. They realized they don't have to control him directly just control what happens to him and by proxy they can control his base voting bloc. By controlling his bloc they control enough of their opposition to assure it doesn't coalesce and defeat them.
Its a political/power struggle story as old as time.
I think we are all capable of this. But the bad increasingly outweighs the good imo. For one, who the hell will even work for the big baby? He'll throw you under the bus and slam you and your family the first opportunity he gets, if it deflects blame from him somehow. He is also not a conservative and probably couldn't even give an accurate cohesive definition of "conservatism" if asked. Lastly, not only does he lie and lie, he attacks Desantis consistently from the left...whether it's on Covid or abortion or whatever.FireAg said:And what are you doing to bring him into your line of thinking...I mean aside from calling him a "cult-like dullard" and "meathead"?BG Knocc Out said:Basically, we have so many simple minded cult-like dullards we are probably doomed. Pales in comparison to the dumbassery of the left obviously, but my fear is that we just have too many simple minded meatheads who just began getting engaged in politics because Trump came across as a relatable simple minded meathead too.FireAg said:
They aren't grabbing headlines, man...
THAT'S my point...
And several of his followers on TA (yes, small "n", I get it) would rather tear into folks they should be building bridges with than ripping each other new *******s...
Yes, there are millions of folks out there still butthurt about 2020, and for good reason, and they are butthurt that tax dollars are still being spent to literally fabricate crimes about the guy the liked (and it was being done before, during, and after his time in office)... And of those folks, there are millions of them who don't "Twitter" (hell, I don't Twitter...I just read what gets posted here)...
I will say it one more time for the reading comprehension ******s out there...I think Ron DeSantis is an excellent candidate...I truly do...
I currently have concerns that he is not generating the buzz that I think he should be generating on a national scale... He's a younger, proven politician with many Trump-esque ideas, and he is far less abrasive...
I just feel like he should be garnering more ink than he does at this point, and I have concerns about that...
Most people who still gravitate toward Trump aren't the inbred, mouth-breathing sycophants that some of y'all dismiss them as...
They are good, well-educated, intelligent, hard-working Americans that need to be understood and embraced...not **** on and dismissed...
I have a friend like this. Great solid working class dude who is borderline illiterate. The other day he spelled immigrant as "imagrant". He very well may have never voted in his life until Trump entered the picture and he liked how much sh** he talked and how few f***s he had to give. He's a hardcore "Trump and only Trumper" and probably believes every single one of Trump's nasty bald faced lies about Desantis. He was never politically engaged or outwardly opinionated until Trump.
I fear there are millions, maybe tens of millions like him...and it's going to ensure someone like Gavin Newsom wins the presidency and we continue to drift hard left as a nation.
See, DeSantis needs that dude to vote for him too...especially if there are 10s of millions just like him (which I don't think there are, but for the sake of argument)...
And for the record, I have an advanced degree and a white collar job...and I can still find the good in Trump...
Sowell argued for it when he was young but has been the biggest opponent for most of his life. I first learned about him by reading "Preferential Policies" which is probably the best book damning AA I've ever read.Zarathustra said:
Thomas Sowell argued for affirmative action so I would go easy here. It was necessary once upon a time. It should have been one tool out of many, not the only tool.
Like back when he was basically a young communist? Because most of his adult life he has eviscerated affirmative action as a practice. He literally hates affirmative action. But yeah, he liked it when he was a young brainwashed leftist I am sure.Zarathustra said:
Thomas Sowell argued for affirmative action so I would go easy here. It was necessary once upon a time. It should have been one tool out of many, not the only tool.
How would I ever hold a political candidate to a certain standard? Trump is who he is...I can't change that...Definitely Not A Cop said:
I support your message FireAg. I think we all need to come together. I only wished you held political candidates to the same standards you hold other Texags posters. If everyone would do that, the US would be a much better place.
