Bad side of AI shows up. And the Aggie jokes write themselves. Though the caveat is this is Commerce, not College Station.


Texas A&M Prof Flunks All His Students After ChatGPT Falsely Claims It Wrote Their Papers
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/texas-m-prof-flunks-students-010351111.html?guccounter=1

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Miles Klee
Tue, May 16, 2023 at 8:03 PM CDT5 min read

A number of seniors at Texas A&M UniversityCommerce who already walked the stage at graduation this year have been temporarily denied their diplomas after a professor ineptly used AI software to assess their final assignments, the partner of a student in his class known as DearKick on Reddit claims to Rolling Stone.
Dr. Jared Mumm, a campus rodeo instructor who also teaches agricultural classes, sent an email on Monday to a group of students informing them that he had submitted grades for their last three essay assignments of the semester. Everyone would be receiving an "X" in the course, Mumm explained, because he had used "Chat GTP" (the OpenAI chatbot is actually called "ChatGPT") to test whether they'd used the software to write the papers and the bot claimed to have authored every single one.

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"I copy and paste your responses in [ChatGPT] and [it] will tell me if the program generated the content," he wrote, saying he had tested each paper twice. He offered the class a makeup assignment to avoid the failing grade which could otherwise, in theory, threaten their graduation status.

There's just one problem: ChatGPT doesn't work that way. The bot isn't made to detect material composed by AI or even material produced by itself and is known to sometimes emit damaging misinformation. With very little prodding, ChatGPT will even claim to have written passages from famous novels such as Crime and Punishment. Educators can choose among a wide variety of effective AI and plagiarism detection tools to assess whether students have completed assignments themselves, including Winston AI and Content at Scale; ChatGPT is not among them. And OpenAI's own tool for determining whether a text was written by a bot has been judged "not very accurate" by a digital marketing agency that recommends tech resources to businesses.

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Texas A&M Commerce.

EOT

infinity ag said:

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Bad side of AI shows up. And the Aggie jokes write themselves. Though the caveat is this is Commerce, not College Station.


Texas A&M Prof Flunks All His Students After ChatGPT Falsely Claims It Wrote Their Papers
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/texas-m-prof-flunks-students-010351111.html?guccounter=1

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Miles Klee
Tue, May 16, 2023 at 8:03 PM CDT5 min read

A number of seniors at Texas A&M UniversityCommerce who already walked the stage at graduation this year have been temporarily denied their diplomas after a professor ineptly used AI software to assess their final assignments, the partner of a student in his class known as DearKick on Reddit claims to Rolling Stone.
Dr. Jared Mumm, a campus rodeo instructor who also teaches agricultural classes, sent an email on Monday to a group of students informing them that he had submitted grades for their last three essay assignments of the semester. Everyone would be receiving an "X" in the course, Mumm explained, because he had used "Chat GTP" (the OpenAI chatbot is actually called "ChatGPT") to test whether they'd used the software to write the papers and the bot claimed to have authored every single one.

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"I copy and paste your responses in [ChatGPT] and [it] will tell me if the program generated the content," he wrote, saying he had tested each paper twice. He offered the class a makeup assignment to avoid the failing grade which could otherwise, in theory, threaten their graduation status.

There's just one problem: ChatGPT doesn't work that way. The bot isn't made to detect material composed by AI or even material produced by itself and is known to sometimes emit damaging misinformation. With very little prodding, ChatGPT will even claim to have written passages from famous novels such as Crime and Punishment. Educators can choose among a wide variety of effective AI and plagiarism detection tools to assess whether students have completed assignments themselves, including Winston AI and Content at Scale; ChatGPT is not among them. And OpenAI's own tool for determining whether a text was written by a bot has been judged "not very accurate" by a digital marketing agency that recommends tech resources to businesses.

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The future is here! YAY!

How is it an Aggie joke when it was the prof who screwed up?

Gigem314 said:

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How is it an Aggie joke when it was the prof who screwed up?

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Not to mention, this would be a Lion joke.

There is going to be a steep learning curve with AI that will make people question their reality. Whether it be in writing, audio, visual, or multiple other aspects of our lives where hopefully the pros outweigh the cons.

But for now, it sure does seem to be people are trusting each other less and less each day ever since AI has been created...

I tutor high school and college English. Many, if not most, of the essays I see are terribly written. My least favorite part of the job is when a kid brings me an essay just to "look it over for grammar" and the whole thing needs a rewrite.

If an entire class submitted essays to me that actually looked like they were written by skilled adults, I'd be suspicious too.

I understand that the computer might make a mistake and think that it wrote a high-quality piece of writing like War and Peace or the sonnets of Shakespeare, but I doubt ChatGPT would claim to have authored an essay that was rife with errors.

Rodeo professor.

fightingfarmer09 said:

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Texas A&M Commerce.

EOT

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At least no one got killed in this TAMU-Commerce headliner.

No idea how this could happen, but I hope somehow the system spins that campus off to some other entity.

If you are worried about not being able to catch students using ChatGPT, then why would you continue giving students assignments in a way that allow them to exploit that?

It's no different than profs griping about the different tutoring services teaching you old test questions from past semesters. If you dont change the test questions every semester, then of course that is going to be exploited. If you do change your test questions every time, then the only thing the tutoring services can focus on are the actual concepts being taught in the class.

We need to know the colors of everyone before we can discuss further.

I'm curious - was the paper on 'rodeo' or another subject.

I'd be interested in reading a 'rodeo' essay.

We used "Turn It In to check" for plagiarism. I suspect those papers generated by AI may be harder to detect plagiarism in many circumstances except similarities of students' papers might be caught by Turn It In.
Often I can tell if a paper has issues if it doesn't have enough references or if suddenly the paper gets really good for several paragraphs then jumps down in quality.

1st Generation Ag said:

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I tutor high school and college English. Many, if not most, of the essays I see are terribly written. My least favorite part of the job is when a kid brings me an essay just to "look it over for grammar" and the whole thing needs a rewrite.

If an entire class submitted essays to me that actually looked like they were written by skilled adults, I'd be suspicious too.

I understand that the computer might make a mistake and think that it wrote a high-quality piece of writing like War and Peace or the sonnets of Shakespeare, but I doubt ChatGPT would claim to have authored an essay that was rife with errors.

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ChatGPT seems to claim it wrote almost everything it is asked to check, including the Professor's email:

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However, as users on Reddit note, ChatGPT will almost always answer "Yes" when asked if it wrote something.
One user asked the AI program if it wrote the professor's email.

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https://kpel965.com/texas-am-commerce-professor-fails-entire-class-chat-gpt-ai-cheat/

Asking ChatGPT if it wrote something doesn't seem to be a valid check.

1st Generation Ag said:

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I tutor high school and college English. Many, if not most, of the essays I see are terribly written. My least favorite part of the job is when a kid brings me an essay just to "look it over for grammar" and the whole thing needs a rewrite.

If an entire class submitted essays to me that actually looked like they were written by skilled adults, I'd be suspicious too.

I understand that the computer might make a mistake and think that it wrote a high-quality piece of writing like War and Peace or the sonnets of Shakespeare, but I doubt ChatGPT would claim to have authored an essay that was rife with errors.

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I have some young engineering staff I am trying to mentor and supervise their work. My biggest problem is their atrocious writing skills. After thirty years in the profession the problem only seems to be getting worse as colleges push out new graduates

Thank goodness this guy is not a Former Student. THAT would be an Aggie joke for sure. ISU/K-State guy.

VegasAg86 said:

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1st Generation Ag said:

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I tutor high school and college English. Many, if not most, of the essays I see are terribly written. My least favorite part of the job is when a kid brings me an essay just to "look it over for grammar" and the whole thing needs a rewrite.

If an entire class submitted essays to me that actually looked like they were written by skilled adults, I'd be suspicious too.

I understand that the computer might make a mistake and think that it wrote a high-quality piece of writing like War and Peace or the sonnets of Shakespeare, but I doubt ChatGPT would claim to have authored an essay that was rife with errors.

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ChatGPT seems to claim it wrote almost everything it is asked to check, including the Professor's email:

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However, as users on Reddit note, ChatGPT will almost always answer "Yes" when asked if it wrote something.
One user asked the AI program if it wrote the professor's email.

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https://kpel965.com/texas-am-commerce-professor-fails-entire-class-chat-gpt-ai-cheat/

Asking ChatGPT if it wrote something doesn't seem to be a valid check.

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Before long ChatGPT may be able to teach classes in place of professors.

In his e-mail to students, he called the program "Chat GTP". Had he run that through AI first, it might have caught the error.

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Before long ChatGPT may be able to teach classes in place of professors.

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But can ChatGPT write leftist screeds on college sidewalks in chalk?

Some things AI can't do.

Make them come in and give them a blue book and #2 pencil.

Ahh, a flashback to the American Indian history class I took at A&M.

Did these students consent to having their literary work released into the public domain?

That's another issue

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Before long ChatGPT may be able to teach classes in place of professors.

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But can ChatGPT write leftist screeds on college sidewalks in chalk?

Some things AI can't do.

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It can probably tell your where to buy industrial-strength chalk that you can't get off with a powerwasher.

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I'm curious - was the paper on 'rodeo' or another subject.

I'd be interested in reading a 'rodeo' essay.

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Here you go, essay written by me, totally not plagiarized or written in Chat GTP.


His eyes are cold and restless
And His wounds have almost healed
And she'd give half of Texas
Just to change the way he feels
'Cause she knows his love's in Tulsa
And she knows he's gonna go
But it ain't no woman flesh and blood
It's that damned old rodeo

Well it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in his knuckles
The gold in his buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo

She does her best to hold him
When his love comes to call
But his need for it controls him
And her back's against the wall
And it's "So long girl, I'll see you."
When it's time for him to go
You know the woman wants her cowboy
Like he wants his rodeo

Well, it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in the knuckles
The gold in the buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo

It'll drive a cowboy crazy
It'll drive the man insane
And he'll sell off everything he owns
Just to pay to play her game
And a broken home and some broken bones
Is all he'll have to show
For all the years that he spent chasin'
This dream they call rodeo

Well, it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in them knuckles
The gold in the buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo
It's the broncs and the blood
It's the steers and the mud
And they call the thing rodeo

torrid said:

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Rodeo professor.

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Exactly. There's a reason this guy's a rodeo professor at Commerce.

VegasAg86 said:

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1st Generation Ag said:

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I tutor high school and college English. Many, if not most, of the essays I see are terribly written. My least favorite part of the job is when a kid brings me an essay just to "look it over for grammar" and the whole thing needs a rewrite.

If an entire class submitted essays to me that actually looked like they were written by skilled adults, I'd be suspicious too.

I understand that the computer might make a mistake and think that it wrote a high-quality piece of writing like War and Peace or the sonnets of Shakespeare, but I doubt ChatGPT would claim to have authored an essay that was rife with errors.

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ChatGPT seems to claim it wrote almost everything it is asked to check, including the Professor's email:

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However, as users on Reddit note, ChatGPT will almost always answer "Yes" when asked if it wrote something.
One user asked the AI program if it wrote the professor's email.

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https://kpel965.com/texas-am-commerce-professor-fails-entire-class-chat-gpt-ai-cheat/

Asking ChatGPT if it wrote something doesn't seem to be a valid check.

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I would argue that the Prof's grammar was correct and it was written in a professional style, but if ChatGPT can't recognize its own name then your point must stand.

Dr. Nefario said:

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Russell Bradleys Toupee said:

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I'm curious - was the paper on 'rodeo' or another subject.

I'd be interested in reading a 'rodeo' essay.

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Here you go, essay written by me, totally not plagiarized or written in Chat GTP.


His eyes are cold and restless
And His wounds have almost healed
And she'd give half of Texas
Just to change the way he feels
'Cause she knows his love's in Tulsa
And she knows he's gonna go
But it ain't no woman flesh and blood
It's that damned old rodeo

Well it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in his knuckles
The gold in his buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo

She does her best to hold him
When his love comes to call
But his need for it controls him
And her back's against the wall
And it's "So long girl, I'll see you."
When it's time for him to go
You know the woman wants her cowboy
Like he wants his rodeo

Well, it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in the knuckles
The gold in the buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo

It'll drive a cowboy crazy
It'll drive the man insane
And he'll sell off everything he owns
Just to pay to play her game
And a broken home and some broken bones
Is all he'll have to show
For all the years that he spent chasin'
This dream they call rodeo

Well, it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in them knuckles
The gold in the buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo
It's the broncs and the blood
It's the steers and the mud
And they call the thing rodeo

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Blue star for you sir.

Something similar happened to my daughter one of her classes. The prof and t.a.'s had a grading session and 3 out of the first 4 essays were determined to be highly likely written by AI. The prof gave entire class 3 days to resubmit an essay, no questions asked.
I read over her paper and plugged different sections into AI "detectors"...a paragraph was determined to be 75% likely written by AI, the paragraph was in fact an interview she did with her grandfather. Her words and his...

I respect your opinion. It's fallible AI we are talking about here. AI isn't actually intelligence, it's as close an approximation as we are capable of creating. AI wouldn't be held back by a true prideful motivation to avoid claiming authorship of substandard work.

This story is a great example of misuse of technology based on false assumptions. I'd be upset if that was my professor. It's near the equivalent of saying, "I failed you because my Siri app told me to."

Dr. Nefario said:

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Russell Bradleys Toupee said:

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I'm curious - was the paper on 'rodeo' or another subject.

I'd be interested in reading a 'rodeo' essay.

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Here you go, essay written by me, totally not plagiarized or written in Chat GTP.


His eyes are cold and restless
And His wounds have almost healed
And she'd give half of Texas
Just to change the way he feels
'Cause she knows his love's in Tulsa
And she knows he's gonna go
But it ain't no woman flesh and blood
It's that damned old rodeo

Well it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in his knuckles
The gold in his buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo

She does her best to hold him
When his love comes to call
But his need for it controls him
And her back's against the wall
And it's "So long girl, I'll see you."
When it's time for him to go
You know the woman wants her cowboy
Like he wants his rodeo

Well, it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in the knuckles
The gold in the buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo

It'll drive a cowboy crazy
It'll drive the man insane
And he'll sell off everything he owns
Just to pay to play her game
And a broken home and some broken bones
Is all he'll have to show
For all the years that he spent chasin'
This dream they call rodeo

Well, it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in them knuckles
The gold in the buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo
It's the broncs and the blood
It's the steers and the mud
And they call the thing rodeo

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Actually, that's not bad. I almost feel like I'm watching an episode of "Yellowstone".

I just got a visual of Teeter from TV's Yellowstone writing a paper.....I want to read it!!!

Aggie Joe 93 said:

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I respect your opinion. It's fallible AI we are talking about here. AI isn't actually intelligence, it's as close an approximation as we are capable of creating. AI wouldn't be held back by a true prideful motivation to avoid claiming authorship of substandard work.

This story is a great example of misuse of technology based on false assumptions. I'd be upset if that was my professor. It's near the equivalent of saying, "I failed you because my Siri app told me to."

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You are 100% correct. I assumed - without knowing - that ChatGPT has standards for evaluating the potential for AI-generated work which include proper grammar and sentence structure.

torrid said:

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Dr. Nefario said:

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Russell Bradleys Toupee said:

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I'm curious - was the paper on 'rodeo' or another subject.

I'd be interested in reading a 'rodeo' essay.

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Here you go, essay written by me, totally not plagiarized or written in Chat GTP.


His eyes are cold and restless
And His wounds have almost healed
And she'd give half of Texas
Just to change the way he feels
'Cause she knows his love's in Tulsa
And she knows he's gonna go
But it ain't no woman flesh and blood
It's that damned old rodeo

Well it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in his knuckles
The gold in his buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo

She does her best to hold him
When his love comes to call
But his need for it controls him
And her back's against the wall
And it's "So long girl, I'll see you."
When it's time for him to go
You know the woman wants her cowboy
Like he wants his rodeo

Well, it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in the knuckles
The gold in the buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo

It'll drive a cowboy crazy
It'll drive the man insane
And he'll sell off everything he owns
Just to pay to play her game
And a broken home and some broken bones
Is all he'll have to show
For all the years that he spent chasin'
This dream they call rodeo

Well, it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in them knuckles
The gold in the buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and latigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo
It's the broncs and the blood
It's the steers and the mud
And they call the thing rodeo

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Actually, that's not bad. I almost feel like I'm watching an episode of "Yellowstone".

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Someone should get this to Kevin Costner. Maybe he could get Garth Brooks to sing it.

This was his first rodeo

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Did you write this?


There is going to be a steep learning curve with AI that will make people question their reality. Whether it be in writing, audio, visual, or multiple other aspects of our lives where hopefully the pros outweigh the cons.

But for now, it sure does seem to be people are trusting each other less and less each day ever since AI has been created...

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Yes, I generated the response based on the input you provided. As an AI language model, I don't have personal experiences or emotions, but I can provide information and generate text based on the prompts given to me.

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Did you write this?

I tutor high school and college English. Many, if not most, of the essays I see are terribly written. My least favorite part of the job is when a kid brings me an essay just to "look it over for grammar" and the whole thing needs a rewrite.

If an entire class submitted essays to me that actually looked like they were written by skilled adults, I'd be suspicious too.

I understand that the computer might make a mistake and think that it wrote a high-quality piece of writing like War and Peace or the sonnets of Shakespeare, but I doubt ChatGPT would claim to have authored an essay that was rife with errors.

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No, I did not write that passage. It appears to be a statement or anecdote shared by someone who tutors high school and college English. As an AI language model, I can generate text based on prompts and provide information, but I don't have personal experiences or opinions.