You are the Emperor of the US. How do you fix the education system?

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Definitely Not A Cop
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My main points would be the following. Feel free to add your own.

Tracking. Students should be educated based on their skill level. Smart kids should be grouped together, motivated kids too, depending on their intelligence. Once you pass 8th grade, you are put on a college course or a vocational course.

Get rid of No child left behind. If you can't pass the 4th grade, you stay in the 4th grade until you can. If you make the results matter, your teachers will care more too.

Disobedience is no longer accepted. If you are nothing but a distraction, you are punished. If it continues, you are removed from school.

Increase vocational training. Trade skills like welding, cosmetics, construction, etc. will be highlighted.

Mandatory personal finance class your senior year.

Complete revamping of the curriculum. With everyone having a phone now, multiple choice questions should be done away with. Education will be focused on critical thinking questions, and how to apply different ideas and strategies to different situations.

Reducing paperwork for teachers. Teachers put in serious hours for not a lot of pay, for a whole host of reasons. It's high time we help them out. Most administrators should answer to the teachers versus the other way around. Administrators should be focused on doing the teacher's paperwork so that teachers can focus on the actual teaching. Teachers should not have to buy their own supplies for their students, it should come out of the administration's pocket. Teachers should not have to pay for their own training that is required by the administrators to continue teaching, that should come out of the administration's pocket, or the certification should be done away with.

School construction funding. This process should be fundamentally changed. Right now, it's almost easier to build a new school than it is to get a leaky roof replaced on an existing school. You just get a bond approved by the city, and you video children saying that you hate education if you don't vote to have your taxes raised. I really don't have a good solution for this, as you would have to fundamentally change the bond structure and the grandfather construction code laws that cause this to happen. But the current process jacks up the cost of education for issues that could be solved much more affordably, then you can designate the savings to go to your teaching staff.

College. College isn't the end goal for students anymore. Making them responsible citizens is. End government backed loans, and bring college back to a luxury for the talented and the rich. If jobs won't hire people without a college degree, the answer isn't to make college affordable to everyone, it's to revamp the HS curriculum to where it is valued again to graduate. College costs would fall as a result.
bonfarr
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The government can't do anything to improve Education for the children of parents that don't care. It is a cultural problem not bureaucratic.

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coconutED
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Shutdown all government schools
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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1. Parents get a choice where their children go to school.
2. Differentiate public schools. Allow schools to serve the public they work for and provide different learning experiences.
3. Students that can't conform to the rules and regulations of the school can be removed.
4. Include some sort of work internship program.



5. Make students responsible for cleaning different areas of the school thoughout the year.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
Old May Banker
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Eliminate federal withholding on paychecks... once everyone realizes what they're actually paying in, you'll see all sorts of **** get "fixed" in short order.
samurai_science
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Well we know what has not worked because it has been tried.

1) Increasing funding - this has failed
2) Paying teachers more - this has failed
3) Lowering standards - this has failed
4) Avoiding discipline and punishments because of "equality" - this has failed



Logos Stick
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Abolish NCLB

Establish three tracks:
1- gifted and talented, college bound
2- trades/skills, go to normal classs until 9th grade, then to trade or hands on at an employer. Most would end up here
3- alternative campus from 9th grade on. These are those who will live on welfare and work unskilled jobs


Fund the student instead of the schools. Kids go to the campus they choose.


Do that and it's fixed.
Pookers
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Get rid of government education entirely. This nation was way better educated before the government got involved.
Jinx
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Agree with op on pretty much all points.

My additions would be keeping religion and sex education out of school and leaving it to the parents, aside from general info on how to identify and report abuse and/or assault.
Charpie
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Those are a great start.

  • School uniforms. Everyone has to wear jeans/khakis with a polo top. The jeans/Khakis can be shorts but they must be mid length. Too short? Go home and change. Tops must be tucked in. Girls, this isn't a fashion show..it's school.
  • Everyone...and I mean EVERYONE, MUST TAKE PE for 1 year in high school.
  • You will take public speaking for 1 semester in high school. In order to pass that class, you MUST speak in front of some sort of assembly and MAKE EYE CONTACT. The amount of kids who can't talk to ADULTS is mindblowing.
  • No more STARR testing. The whole concept is stupid.
  • Oh, we are in the United States, you must speak English in school. You can speak Spanish, Vietnamese, Hindi, or whatever your native language is at home. Sorry.
  • School is just that, school. It isn't a daycare. If your kid acts up and decides to be an *******, guess what? You need to be a parent and deal with it.
  • Parents must volunteer in schools somehow...someway. If you work, then you can donate something to school, whether it be supplies or the like. If you are a SAHM, then you can come in and help. No more of this lazy ass porch mama bs.
dead
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I completely agree, how are people unable to speak the official language of the US?
nortex97
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We don't technically have an emperor yet, though Xi Jinping is getting close.

At the federal level I would abolish the department of education entirely, and pass legislation forbidding the use of federal funds in state schools/standards in any way (including higher education). Our federal government doesn't need to 'help' at all and doesn't have the funding in reality in any case.
MagnumLoad
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Eliminate the federal dept of education and teacher's unions.
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cevans_40
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samurai_science said:

Well we know what has not worked because it has been tried.

1) Increasing funding - this has failed
2) Paying teachers more - this has failed
3) Lowering standards - this has failed
4) Avoiding discipline and punishments because of "equality" - this has failed




LOL
Ol_Ag_02
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Personal financial literacy is already a required course to earn a Texas high school diploma.
Definitely Not A Cop
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dead said:

I completely agree, how are people unable to speak the official language of the US?


I get you are being sarcastic. Do you think that children in the US that graduate and can't speak English end up doing as well in life in the US as one's that can? Why wouldn't you educate kids to have as much potential to be successful in their environment as you can?
Madman
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I would command parents to care deeply about the education of their children. And then I would command the children to focus and also care.

Problem fixed.
akm91
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Personal financial literacy is already a required course to earn a Texas high school diploma.
It is? I don't remember my oldest taking a class on personal finance before graduating.
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Definitely Not A Cop
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Personal financial literacy is already a required course to earn a Texas high school diploma.


It's like one chapter in Home EC. Im talking about an actual financial literacy course that teaches you basic money theory all the way to investing in stocks, bonds, and real estate.
Maroon Elephant
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

dead said:

I completely agree, how are people unable to speak the official language of the US?


I get you are being sarcastic. Do you think that children in the US that graduate and can't speak English end up doing as well in life in the US as one's that can? Why wouldn't you educate kids to have as much potential to be successful in their environment as you can?
Kids who don't speak English should be required to go to school an extra year. Their first year in school, regardless of age, will be a year long English immersion class with some math. Once complete, they get back to the other classes. Parents have little Johnny repeat the 5th grade for football all the time, it won't hurt to have kids do it to learn the language of money.
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HollywoodBQ
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dead said:

I completely agree, how are people unable to speak the official language of the US?
You meant this as a joke, right?
DCPD158
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Dismantle the power of the teacher's unions
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BigRobSA
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coconutED said:

Shutdown all government schools
privatization
Ol_Ag_02
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Personal financial literacy is already a required course to earn a Texas high school diploma.


It's like one chapter in Home EC. Im talking about an actual financial literacy course that teaches you basic money theory all the way to investing in stocks, bonds, and real estate.


It's not a chapter in Home Economics. It's a half year course.

cevans_40
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Funding should not be tied to daily attendance. That is why these little turds get to stay in school versus sent home for their parents to deal with them.

Agree with more trades and vocational ed. The kids like these classes better than English IV anyway.

I will always support more STEM vs Liberal Arts

Admin staff should be cut by about 75% but that would mean we have to also eliminate all of the labels we slap on half the kids and all of the special treatment they get up until the graduate college now. (Not sure how many of know this, but colleges are now modifying course for students with "learning disabilities")

Definitely Not A Cop
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Is that recent? I did not go through that, granted it's been 15 or so years.
Ol_Ag_02
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akm91 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Personal financial literacy is already a required course to earn a Texas high school diploma.
It is? I don't remember my oldest taking a class on personal finance before graduating.


It's new. Looks like it started 2022 school year.
Definitely Not A Cop
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

akm91 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Personal financial literacy is already a required course to earn a Texas high school diploma.
It is? I don't remember my oldest taking a class on personal finance before graduating.


It's new. Looks like it started 2022 school year.


You can thank your emperor.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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Pookers said:

Get rid of government education entirely. This nation was way better educated before the government got involved.
Can you provide more information on this, please?
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
dead
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ESL requirements are already in the Texas Education Code from K-12. How many classes are being taught in Spanish/Vietnamese/Hindi/etc. to students who aren't also learning English at the same time?
Secolobo
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When they turn 18 and if they choose to not contribute to society, turn 50% into Soylent Green to be consumed by the other 50% that choose to receive welfare and make it public knowledge.
Logos Stick
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dead said:

I completely agree, how are people unable to speak the official language of the US?


Ok, you and your kids are free to speak whatever language you want in school.

The teachers should be mandated to teach in English.

Sounds like we have a solution.
Definitely Not A Cop
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dead said:

ESL requirements are already in the Texas Education Code from K-12. How many classes are being taught in Spanish/Vietnamese/Hindi/etc. to students who aren't also learning English at the same time?


You don't have to know English to graduate or advance to the next grade. So again, why wouldn't you educate kids to have as much potential to be successful in their environment as you can?
dead
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I know there isn't an official language of the US
Ol_Ag_02
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

akm91 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Personal financial literacy is already a required course to earn a Texas high school diploma.
It is? I don't remember my oldest taking a class on personal finance before graduating.


It's new. Looks like it started 2022 school year.


You can thank your emperor.


Get bent. You can thank my wife for lobbying the Texas Legislature on behalf of TEA to get it put into place.
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