What if, among all the back and forth about what is causing the increase in these attacks, we keep ignoring marijuana use?

Curiously, in looking to research this, there is not a lot of data I can find. I am worried it isn't being studied or is being suppressed.

But, here is one:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9462911/

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The stigma once attached to marijuana has vanished. Nineteen states have legalized cannabis for recreational use, and politicians of both parties increasingly treat it as harmless. Asked during the 2020 presidential campaign about her pot use in college, Kamala Harris giggled and said marijuana "gives a lot of people joy" and "we need more joy in the world." But the public needs an honest discussion of its social and public-health risks, which include violence and mental illness.

Alex Berenson, author of Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence, pointed out that the New York Times had curiously removed from an article about the Uvalde school shooter a former coworker's recollection that he complained about his grandmother not letting him smoke weed. The Times didn't append a correction to the story as it might be expected to do when fixing a factual inaccuracy.

Assuming the elided detail was accurate, it would fit a pattern. Mass shooters at Rep. Gabby Giffords's constituent meeting in Tucson, Ariz. (2011), a movie theater in Aurora, Colo. (2012), the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla. (2016), the First Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas (2017), and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla. (2018), were reported to be marijuana users. It could be a coincidence, but increasing evidence suggests a connection.

Isn't pot supposed to make you mellow? Maybe if you smoke only a joint on occasion. But youth nowadays are consuming marijuana more frequently and in higher doses than their elders did when they were young.

This is leading to increased addiction and antisocial behavior. THC, the chemical that causes a euphoric high, interacts with the brain's neuron receptors involved with pleasure. Marijuana nowadays on average is about four times as potent as in 1995. But dabsportions of concentrated cannabiscan include 20 times as much THC as joints did in the 1960s. It's much easier for young people to get hooked. One in six people who start using pot while under 18 will develop an addiction, which doctors call "cannabis use disorder." As they use the drug more frequently to satisfy cravings, they develop psychological and social problems.

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Like we've seen before, America doesn't have a homeless problem so much as a drug addiction problem.

Perhaps our mass shooting problem is also a drug problem.

I'm curious as to your thoughts.

Athanasius said:

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What if, among all the back and forth about what is causing the increase in these attacks, we keep ignoring marijuana use?

Curiously, in looking to research this, there is not a lot of data I can find. I am worried it isn't being studied or is being suppressed.

But, here is one:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9462911/

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The stigma once attached to marijuana has vanished. Nineteen states have legalized cannabis for recreational use, and politicians of both parties increasingly treat it as harmless. Asked during the 2020 presidential campaign about her pot use in college, Kamala Harris giggled and said marijuana "gives a lot of people joy" and "we need more joy in the world." But the public needs an honest discussion of its social and public-health risks, which include violence and mental illness.

Alex Berenson, author of Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence, pointed out that the New York Times had curiously removed from an article about the Uvalde school shooter a former coworker's recollection that he complained about his grandmother not letting him smoke weed. The Times didn't append a correction to the story as it might be expected to do when fixing a factual inaccuracy.

Assuming the elided detail was accurate, it would fit a pattern. Mass shooters at Rep. Gabby Giffords's constituent meeting in Tucson, Ariz. (2011), a movie theater in Aurora, Colo. (2012), the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla. (2016), the First Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas (2017), and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla. (2018), were reported to be marijuana users. It could be a coincidence, but increasing evidence suggests a connection.

Isn't pot supposed to make you mellow? Maybe if you smoke only a joint on occasion. But youth nowadays are consuming marijuana more frequently and in higher doses than their elders did when they were young.

This is leading to increased addiction and antisocial behavior. THC, the chemical that causes a euphoric high, interacts with the brain's neuron receptors involved with pleasure. Marijuana nowadays on average is about four times as potent as in 1995. But dabsportions of concentrated cannabiscan include 20 times as much THC as joints did in the 1960s. It's much easier for young people to get hooked. One in six people who start using pot while under 18 will develop an addiction, which doctors call "cannabis use disorder." As they use the drug more frequently to satisfy cravings, they develop psychological and social problems.

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Like we've seen before, America doesn't have a homeless problem so much as a drug addiction problem.

Perhaps our mass shooting problem is also a drug problem.

I'm curious as to your thoughts.

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Lol it's not the weed.

We glorify mental illness and victims.

If we are going to start blaming influences......let's include video games that glorify violence.

People who smoke weed aren't going to go out and shoot up the community.

I would say the amount of time folks spend on social media/video games/etc instead of interacting in-person with other living, breathing humans has more to do with it than pot. People aren't taught to value life the same way people were in the past. That and the celebration of degeneracy.

The questions need to be asked and evaluated: In all of the places that have legalized marijuana, is society better off than it was before? I know that there are other factors in places like Vegas, Colorado, Oregon and California. But, I was shocked when I returned to Oklahoma after not being there for a few years to see just how much decay has happened there. Tulsa ain't what it used to be.

The movie Reefer Madness is closing in on a 100 years old.

Cannabis and psychosis:

https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/there-link-between-marijuana-use-psychiatric-disorders

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The relationship between cannabis (marijuana) use and psychiatric disorders is complex, and more research is needed to better understand the short- and long-term impacts of cannabis use on mental health. Considerablethough not allevidence has linked cannabis use to earlier onset of psychosis in people with genetic risk factors for psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia, as well as worse symptoms in people who already have these conditions. Although less consistent, there is also evidence linking cannabis use to other mental illnesses and self-harm, including suicidal thoughts and behaviors.

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DrEvazanPhD said:

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We glorify mental illness and victims.

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We glorify lots of sick crap and then pretend to wonder, "why do we have more shootings?"

SOoooo many of the responses here are dismissive, emotional, and unserious.

I.am.disappoint.

If you want to solve this problem, engage with proper argumentation.

Zergling Rush said:

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If we are going to start blaming influences......let's include video games that glorify violence.

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It's no one single thing IMHO... it's a million paper cuts that are all basically based on "if it feels good do it." We have no moral compass.

Loss of Christian Faith and Values, including Mariage and involved Fathers, holding on line 1…

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084484/

From a few years ago - we know about it.

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-04874-6_12

More info - abstract

It's simple

Modern society create more mental illness and glorifies it while at the same time ended all treatment facilities for mental illness

We made more crazies and let them roam free unchecked

Hate and utter lack of respect for human life. Doesn't matter who you are. There was the trans shooter. And then there's the Allen shooter.

Wow. The Allen, Texas mass shooter’s profile on a Russian social media site has been found. He posted a photo of Nazi tattoos and “reconnaissance” photos of the outlet mall weeks prior. He also posted the right-wing YouTuber Tim Pool. (per @AricToler) pic.twitter.com/BnebamBumi

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) May 8, 2023

Zergling Rush said:

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If we are going to start blaming influences......let's include video games that glorify violence.

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this. how people don't recognize the role these very realistic games have in breaking down barriers to actually pull the trigger. the military is done studies on this. there is a reason why targets have evolved from an actual target to a photo of a person.

CondensedFogAggie said:

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Hate and utter lack of respect for human life. Doesn't matter who you are. There was the trans shooter. And then there's the Allen shooter.

Wow. The Allen, Texas mass shooter’s profile on a Russian social media site has been found. He posted a photo of Nazi tattoos and “reconnaissance” photos of the outlet mall weeks prior. He also posted the right-wing YouTuber Tim Pool. (per @AricToler) pic.twitter.com/BnebamBumi

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) May 8, 2023

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Tim Pool is "right wing"???? Dafuq?

I think the current policy of ignoring mental illness is the biggest needle mover as well with regard to mass shootings and several other significant societal problems. Could pot use be a factor. I dunno . I don't discount the possibility.

CondensedFogAggie said:

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Hate and utter lack of respect for human life. Doesn't matter who you are. There was the trans shooter. And then there's the Allen shooter.

Wow. The Allen, Texas mass shooter’s profile on a Russian social media site has been found. He posted a photo of Nazi tattoos and “reconnaissance” photos of the outlet mall weeks prior. He also posted the right-wing YouTuber Tim Pool. (per @AricToler) pic.twitter.com/BnebamBumi

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) May 8, 2023

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Since when did Nazi's start killing whites and asians?

ShaggySLC said:

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CondensedFogAggie said:

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Hate and utter lack of respect for human life. Doesn't matter who you are. There was the trans shooter. And then there's the Allen shooter.

Wow. The Allen, Texas mass shooter’s profile on a Russian social media site has been found. He posted a photo of Nazi tattoos and “reconnaissance” photos of the outlet mall weeks prior. He also posted the right-wing YouTuber Tim Pool. (per @AricToler) pic.twitter.com/BnebamBumi

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) May 8, 2023

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Since when did Nazi's start killing whites and asians?

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Since when did Nazi's start allowing Hispanics join their "club"?

Cannabis has been legal for the majority of the US's history. Mass shootings are a new phenomenon.

This Aric Toler person already admitted he didn't know if this was the same person in that post...

I'd argue that if more people smoked a little weed from time to time, we'd all get along a little better.

Zergling Rush said:

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If we are going to start blaming influences......let's include video games that glorify violence.

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Rap music

AggieVictor10 said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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If we are going to start blaming influences......let's include video games that glorify violence.

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Rap music

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I feel like rap music has led to this insane behavior. Can't let any slight effect the rep, gotta handle that **** talk!

On May 3 at @NimitzHS_AISD in Houston, students and a parent brawled in a school office. pic.twitter.com/cJYsj0ZXWx

— Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) May 8, 2023

Oh it's all been done.

Rap music
Video games
No dads
No God

Now mental health and Mary Jane.

But never the guns. Never.

Keep them goal posts moving folks. Keeeep em moving…

We can now estimate that 30% of young males with psychotic illnesses/schizophrenia are that way from THC. I suspect a real forensic examination (we don't do this in our country or at least don't usually make the results public) would show many if not most "inexplicable" mass shootings have a similar explanation. My further thoughts are in this editorial just published today!
https://sanangelolive.com/news/live-thought/2023-05-08/republicans-should-be-party-mental-health-not-marijuana

We have had a drug problem for decades before all of the mass shootings began.

Immorality when men are accepted as women and the loss of respect, from the parents not teaching their kids responsibility, to teachers indoctrinating their students, to liberal policies that have led the way to division and the acceptance of crime as a Society problem and not an individual one, and of course victim hood.

Athanasius said:

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What if, among all the back and forth about what is causing the increase in these attacks, we keep ignoring marijuana use?

Curiously, in looking to research this, there is not a lot of data I can find. I am worried it isn't being studied or is being suppressed.

But, here is one:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9462911/

Quote:

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The stigma once attached to marijuana has vanished. Nineteen states have legalized cannabis for recreational use, and politicians of both parties increasingly treat it as harmless. Asked during the 2020 presidential campaign about her pot use in college, Kamala Harris giggled and said marijuana "gives a lot of people joy" and "we need more joy in the world." But the public needs an honest discussion of its social and public-health risks, which include violence and mental illness.

Alex Berenson, author of Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence, pointed out that the New York Times had curiously removed from an article about the Uvalde school shooter a former coworker's recollection that he complained about his grandmother not letting him smoke weed. The Times didn't append a correction to the story as it might be expected to do when fixing a factual inaccuracy.

Assuming the elided detail was accurate, it would fit a pattern. Mass shooters at Rep. Gabby Giffords's constituent meeting in Tucson, Ariz. (2011), a movie theater in Aurora, Colo. (2012), the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla. (2016), the First Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas (2017), and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla. (2018), were reported to be marijuana users. It could be a coincidence, but increasing evidence suggests a connection.

Isn't pot supposed to make you mellow? Maybe if you smoke only a joint on occasion. But youth nowadays are consuming marijuana more frequently and in higher doses than their elders did when they were young.

This is leading to increased addiction and antisocial behavior. THC, the chemical that causes a euphoric high, interacts with the brain's neuron receptors involved with pleasure. Marijuana nowadays on average is about four times as potent as in 1995. But dabsportions of concentrated cannabiscan include 20 times as much THC as joints did in the 1960s. It's much easier for young people to get hooked. One in six people who start using pot while under 18 will develop an addiction, which doctors call "cannabis use disorder." As they use the drug more frequently to satisfy cravings, they develop psychological and social problems.

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Like we've seen before, America doesn't have a homeless problem so much as a drug addiction problem.

Perhaps our mass shooting problem is also a drug problem.

I'm curious as to your thoughts.

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I bet they also ate bacon.
Maybe it was bacon that caused these deaths.

Ban bacon! Fried, salty, gross fat strips kills innocents!

Mental illness, a Godless society and destruction of the nuclear family are the causes.

Weed makes you happy, hungry and sleepy.

I have known a few people that smoked a significant amount of marijuana almost daily and I am certain that it negatively effected their mental abilities/capacity. I saw it over a few years. Probably much like people that consume significant amounts of alcohol on a daily basis. Long term use of either/both in significant amounts is bound to be detrimental to a persons mental abilities. It would not surprise me that longtime use of marijuana could cause people to do crazy things such as mass shootings. It is a mind altering drug.

APHIS AG said:

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We have had a drug problem for decades before all of the mass shootings began.

Immorality when men are accepted as women and the loss of respect, from the parents not teaching their kids responsibility, to teachers indoctrinating their students, to liberal policies that have led the way to division and the acceptance of crime as a Society problem and not an individual one, and of course victim hood.

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The potency is much higher.

I just want to see numbers showing of all mass shootings, how many used marijuana.

If you read the articles/studies linked you'll see it is worth the examination.