Kentucky Ballistics new video raises interesting question re gun control

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aggiehawg
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You see, this gun would survive pretty much every gun control bill currently being discussed anywhere in the country. It's single-shot, so assault weapon bans wouldn't do much to it. It's a rifle, so handgun restrictions won't do a lot, either.

Yet this single shot is far more destructive than the much-vilified AR-15.

While opponents of so-called assault weapons are quick to overstate the power of those weapons, the 4 bore is everything they claim to oppose. It can actually do the damage that they claim an AR-15 can when it actually can't.
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The ballistics on this thing is insane.

"But it's just a single shot. It can only hurt one person at a time," someone might try to counter, but if you see the video, the penetration from that slug is enough that I have little doubt it could hurt or kill multiple people with a single trigger pull.

In other words, this weapon would survive every assault weapon ban bill in the nation, yet it could probably do a lot more damage than any "assault weapon" ever could.
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80sGeorge
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Stop giving them ideas of what to infringe upon next Hawg!
aggiehawg
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They are over 20 grand a piece. Doubt you'll find many in the hood.And even if you did, they couldn't afford the ammo.
FIDO_Ags
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That's a weak argument. Took Oswald 8 seconds to fire off three aimed rounds.

I wonder how many un-aimed rounds you could fire from an AR-15 in 8 seconds.

Seems like 8 seconds would give someone a chance to fight back vs a single shot rifle, regardless of the amount of damage done by one round. You can cover a lot more space with a semi-automatic rifle.
Htownag11
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"Took Oswald 8 seconds to fire off three aimed rounds."

Ya ok, Fed
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FIDO_Ags said:

Took Oswald 8 seconds to fire off three aimed rounds.
IndividualFreedom
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Joe should spend more of our tax dollars and send ukraine an arse load of the 4 Bore with ammo.
Funky Winkerbean
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Shoot a backpack full of Tannerite in a crowded place
sleepybeagle
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To those of you here who support gun restrictions - am I really your enemy?
Do you really trust your government more than you trust your neighbors?
How many people in the last century were killed by governments vs. killed by individuals?
When have I, or other law abiding gun owner, ever tried to take any of your rights away?
What do you fear and why?
fixer
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Along the same lines Garand Thumb's videos on shotgun damage with ballistic dummies is enlightening.

fka ftc
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Htownag11 said:

"Took Oswald 8 seconds to fire off three aimed rounds."

Ya ok, Fed
EVERYONE knows it was Matt McConaughey's biological father who killed JFK.
TxSquarebody
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200lbs of recoil...Scott benches 400...most people will get rocked and never get a second shot off.
aggieforester05
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I'm pretty sure any rifle (excluding black powder) over .50 cal is considered a destructive device and regulated by the NFA. You have to go through the same ATF/FBI background check (9+ months, fingerprints, photos), pay for a tax stamp, and register it the same as you would a silencer, SBR, SBS, AOW, or Machine Gun. So anyone that legally obtains one of these is already going through much higher scrutiny than a regular gun purchase.

Any transaction outside of that process or possession by someone not registered as an individual or member of the trust that owns it would be punishable by a fine of up to $10K and up to 10 years in Federal Prison.

The ATF and DOJ do not **** around and will crucify your ass and shoot your dog if given the opportunity. You'll also likely have to do at least 80% of your sentence before you get out on parole. They'll make your life and those around you a living hell if you don't plead guilty and you have little chance of being found not guilty based on statistics. The punishment doesn't even come close to fitting the crime, but that is where we are when sleazy gun control advocates are given the power to enforce federal gun laws on behalf of their Democrat overlords.
TexAg1987
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That gun actually does the things that the gun control crowd claims the AR-15 does.
fka ftc
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I need to see what it does to a ballistics grizzly bear dummy before I am sold.
TexAg1987
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4-bore Water Buffalo - Bing video
Fannie Luddite
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Great way to get a separated shoulder as you practice your 2nd amendment rights.
one MEEN Ag
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FIDO_Ags said:

That's a weak argument. Took Oswald 8 seconds to fire off three aimed rounds.

I wonder how many un-aimed rounds you could fire from an AR-15 in 8 seconds.

Seems like 8 seconds would give someone a chance to fight back vs a single shot rifle, regardless of the amount of damage done by one round. You can cover a lot more space with a semi-automatic rifle.
You realize no one has ever been able to replicate that speed with that rifle, correct? Not even the FBI or other trained professionals.

Thats like the biggest piece of evidence against 'lone gunman'
aggieforester05
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I do have an 8 Bore black powder shotgun. It was built in the late 1800s to early 1900s and due to its age FedEx left it on my front porch, no FFL required.
aggiehawg
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Fannie Luddite said:

Great way to get a separated shoulder as you practice your 2nd amendment rights.
Separated shoulder? If I fired that thing, I'd be thrown back 20 feet or so.
Loren Visser
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didn't even knock over the torsos...weak.
If the pay's right, and it's legal, I'll do it...Well, if the pay's right, I'll do it.
APHIS AG
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sleepybeagle said:

To those of you here who support gun restrictions - am I really your enemy?
Do you really trust your government more than you trust your neighbors?
How many people in the last century were killed by governments vs. killed by individuals?
When have I, or other law abiding gun owner, ever tried to take any of your rights away?
What do you fear and why?
They fear what they are told to fear. That is why the weak, uneducated (having a college degree does not make one "educated"), ignorant, and lazy people are controlled so easily, manipulated to think that the government knows all and that what they say is best for them.

One just has to observe liberals for their emotions drives them and common sense is nonexistent.

That is why when facts are presented to a liberal, they quickly shut down and attack or when asked to provide facts as to what they believe, they have that "deer in the headlights" look.
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fka ftc
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Bregxit said:

one MEEN Ag said:

FIDO_Ags said:

That's a weak argument. Took Oswald 8 seconds to fire off three aimed rounds.

I wonder how many un-aimed rounds you could fire from an AR-15 in 8 seconds.

Seems like 8 seconds would give someone a chance to fight back vs a single shot rifle, regardless of the amount of damage done by one round. You can cover a lot more space with a semi-automatic rifle.
You realize no one has ever been able to replicate that speed with that rifle, correct? Not even the FBI or other trained professionals.

Thats like the biggest piece of evidence against 'lone gunman'


Why does this myth keep getting perpetuated? Tons of people have replicated it.
There was a documentary that went through all the "myths" and quite convincingly disproved the conspiracy theories. I have little doubt that it was LHO acting alone as the shooter.

However, I remain open to theories about his motives and connections. I would posit that the focus on LHO and his ability to get the shots off and 'grassy knolls" is controlled misinformation to keep folks debating the wrong things.
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